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Post by rgs318 on Nov 21, 2019 7:32:59 GMT -5
Massey makes Harvard a 7 point favorite (72-65) with a 72% chance for the win.
Harvard is 3-2. Wins over MIT, Maine, and Siena. Losses are to Buffalo (by 10) and Northeastern (by 5). The close game vs Northeastern has to raise some concern for HC. A strong showing is needed.
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Harvard
Nov 21, 2019 8:23:32 GMT -5
Post by rgs318 on Nov 21, 2019 8:23:32 GMT -5
From. the Harvard website:
CAMBRIDGE, Mass. – Harvard men's basketball returns to the Bay State after it played the first-ever contest in the province of Ontario over the weekend, as it travels to Holy Cross on Friday, Nov. 22 at 7 p.m. The action will be broadcast on the Patriot League Network.
What to Know • Harvard is 3-2 on the season, with wins over MIT, Maine and Siena. Showcasing its depth, eight players are averaging at least 6.8 points per game, and nine players have at least one game in double figures this season. Harvard ranks eighth nationally in blocks per game (6.8). • The Crimson went 19-12 (10-4 Ivy) last season, earning its seventh Ivy League championship in the past nine years. Harvard advanced to the second round of the NIT for the first time in program history after beating Georgetown in the nation's capital, 71-68. • Harvard returns one of the most experienced teams in the country, ranking second nationally in percentage of scoring (96.7%) and minutes (95.7%). Bryce Aiken led the team in scoring a year ago at 22.2 points per game, which was the third-highest average in a single season in program history. • Continuing a strong start to his opening season, first-year Chris Ledlum was been named the Ivy League Rookie of the Week on Nov. 8. Ledlum averaged 8.5 points per game on the week, including a career-best 14 points in a 59-56 victory over Siena on Thursday. Ledlum hit three triples in the contest, and also blocked a shot in each of Harvard's games on the week. • After an 18-point performance in his season debut against Buffalo, senior Bryce Aiken is just nine points away from reaching 1,000 in his career. He will become the 35th player in program history to reach the mark. Chris Lewis is 32 points away from joining Aiken with 1,000 career points, and he sits just seven blocks away from setting a new program record for blocks in a career (150), which would surpass Keith Wright '12.
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Post by hcpride on Nov 21, 2019 8:46:10 GMT -5
No doubt we'll play better than last game and no doubt we'll keep them under 100. Harvard only scored 84 in blowing out D-III MIT 84-27. At the same time this is not one of the games I thought of as a W when guessing/predicting we could win 10 games this season. Let's play competitively and then grab some W's in Boca,
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Post by WorcesterGray on Nov 21, 2019 9:03:53 GMT -5
A good opportunity for Copeland to get serious minutes, and for the team to work extensively on its zone defense, as well as m2m - we will need both throughout the season.
Once Pridgen is healthy, I like the idea of Copeland coming off the bench to spell Butler. Despite his defensive and - increasingly - offensive shortcomings, AB's energy, physicality, and rebounding are sorely needed - just have to pare down his minutes some.
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Harvard
Nov 21, 2019 10:04:09 GMT -5
Post by rgs318 on Nov 21, 2019 10:04:09 GMT -5
HARVARD PROBABLE STARTERS: 00 Chris Lewis Sr F (Sr, 6'9" 235) 10 ppg / 8 rpg / 1 apg / 29 mpg 02 Luka Sakota G (Fr, 6'5" 190) 3 mpg / 1 rpg / 1 apg / 9 mpg 10 Noah Kirkwood G (So, 6'7" 215) 12 ppg / 3 rpg / 4 apg / 30 mpg 30 Danilo Djuricic F (Jr, 6'8" 215) 7 ppg / 6 rpg / 1 apg / 18 mpg 20 Justin Bassey G (Sr, 6'5" 215) 9 ppg / 6 rpg / 2 apg / 34 mpg
TOP SUBS: 35 Robert Baker F (Sr, 6'11" 205) 9 mpg / 5 rpg / 1 apg / 25 mpg 11 Bryce Aiken G (Sr, 6'0" 175) 18 ppg / 1 rpg / 2 apg / 20 mpg 04 Chris Ledlum F (Fr, 6'6" 225) 7 ppg / 2 rpg / 1 apg / 13 mpg 22 Christian Juzang G (Sr, 6'2" 175) 3 ppg / 1 rpg / 2 apg / 21 mpg 05 Rio Haskett G (Jr, 6'3" 195) 7 ppg / 1 rpg / 1 apg / 21 mpg _______________________ HOLY CROSS - PROBABLE STARTERS 03 Lowder, Drew.............G (Fr, 6'0" 170) 16 ppg / 2 rpg / 4 apg / 33 mpg 13 Hargis, Marlon...........F (So, 6'7" 203) 7 ppg / 2 rpg / 1 apg / 19 mpg 05 Niego, Connor...........F (Jr. 6'8" 212) 9 ppg / 4 rpg / 1 apg / 30 mpg 04 Butler, Austin.............G (Jr, 6'5" 212) 8 ppg / 6 rpg / 2 apg / 31 mpg 42 Verbeek, Blake..........F (So, 6'11" 215) 6 ppg / 4 rpg / 1 apg / 20 mpg
TOP SUBS: 00 Wade, Ryan...............G (Fr, 6'2" 170) 6 ppg / 2 rpg / 2 apg / 23 mpg 02 Kyle Copeland...........G (Jr, 6'4" 175) 9 ppg / 4 rpg / 1 apg / 28 mpg (one game) 15 Faw, Matt..................F (Jr, 6'9" 223) 2 ppg / 1 rpg / 1 apg / 8 mpg 11 Reilly, Joe..................G (Fr, 6'0" 170) 1 ppg / 1 rpg / 1 apg / 11 mpg
25 Pridgen, Joe..............F (Fr, 6'5" 210) 11 ppg / 8 rpg / 3 apg / 34 mpg (injured leg)
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Harvard
Nov 21, 2019 10:22:41 GMT -5
Post by rickii on Nov 21, 2019 10:22:41 GMT -5
Going in this looks much worse than Northeastern....no one should be shocked.
We knew it would be the case several months ago.
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Harvard
Nov 21, 2019 10:26:50 GMT -5
Post by hchoops on Nov 21, 2019 10:26:50 GMT -5
Going in this looks much worse than Northeastern.... northeastern beat Harvard
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Nov 21, 2019 11:31:27 GMT -5
Going in this looks much worse than Northeastern....no one should be shocked. We knew it would be the case several months ago. Fortunately Harvard, despite their top recruiting classes and talent, is still coached by Tommy Amaker and Northeastern by Bill Coen.
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Harvard
Nov 21, 2019 12:06:19 GMT -5
Post by Non Alum Dave on Nov 21, 2019 12:06:19 GMT -5
So now Aiken is back......swell, lord help us. If any bad karma carries over from the last game Seth Towns will probably be suited up too.
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Harvard
Nov 21, 2019 12:07:28 GMT -5
Post by Tom on Nov 21, 2019 12:07:28 GMT -5
Going in this looks much worse than Northeastern.... northeastern beat Harvard For the third consecutive time
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 21, 2019 14:18:19 GMT -5
Who exactly do they think they are beating Harvard so many times in basketball? Holy Cross? 😂
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Harvard
Nov 21, 2019 18:32:50 GMT -5
Post by timholycross on Nov 21, 2019 18:32:50 GMT -5
An article by Joe Sullivan in the Globe inferred Harvard is not playing all that well. Hopefully that continues and HC is not the cure for what ails them.
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Harvard
Nov 21, 2019 20:17:00 GMT -5
Post by DiMarz on Nov 21, 2019 20:17:00 GMT -5
Pridgen will still be out I believe....I hope HC can shoot it a LOT better than Tuesday....Will there be a good crowd when the game starts? Get there early folks, 2 games at the same time!
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Harvard
Nov 21, 2019 20:29:03 GMT -5
Post by longsuffering on Nov 21, 2019 20:29:03 GMT -5
Going in this looks much worse than Northeastern....no one should be shocked. We knew it would be the case several months ago. Fortunately Harvard, despite their top recruiting classes and talent, is still coached by Tommy Amaker and Northeastern by Bill Coen. I guess this means Amaker's star has fallen. I haven't been following it closely, but when he first started at Harvard he was seen as the second coming. Maybe he shined with the previous coach's (Frank Sullivan?) recruits.
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Harvard
Nov 21, 2019 20:32:37 GMT -5
Post by longsuffering on Nov 21, 2019 20:32:37 GMT -5
A good opportunity for Copeland to get serious minutes, and for the team to work extensively on its zone defense, as well as m2m - we will need both throughout the season. Once Pridgen is healthy, I like the idea of Copeland coming off the bench to spell Butler. Despite his defensive and - increasingly - offensive shortcomings, AB's energy, physicality, and rebounding are sorely needed - just have to pare down his minutes some. When I was a kid I remember sportswriters analyzing how Bill Russell made all of his teammates better players. I wonder if there was a similar effect with JF at center for HC the past couple of years?
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Post by longsuffering on Nov 21, 2019 20:42:35 GMT -5
Going in this looks much worse than Northeastern.... northeastern beat Harvard Our margin of defeat will be less than half what it was against Northeastern. A hundred year flood usually doesn't return within a week. We witnessed history the other night.
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Harvard
Nov 21, 2019 21:49:25 GMT -5
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Nov 21, 2019 21:49:25 GMT -5
Fortunately Harvard, despite their top recruiting classes and talent, is still coached by Tommy Amaker and Northeastern by Bill Coen. I guess this means Amaker's star has fallen. I haven't been following it closely, but when he first started at Harvard he was seen as the second coming. Maybe he shined with the previous coach's (Frank Sullivan?) recruits. Recruiting (at least on paper) hasn't been the issue for Harvard under Amaker. And no matter how you slice it, the Amaker era is still probably the most successful period for Harvard basketball in modern history.
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Nov 22, 2019 11:49:36 GMT -5
Post by hchoops on Nov 22, 2019 11:49:36 GMT -5
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Harvard
Nov 22, 2019 14:07:59 GMT -5
Post by hc87 on Nov 22, 2019 14:07:59 GMT -5
I guess this means Amaker's star has fallen. I haven't been following it closely, but when he first started at Harvard he was seen as the second coming. Maybe he shined with the previous coach's (Frank Sullivan?) recruits. Recruiting (at least on paper) hasn't been the issue for Harvard under Amaker. And no matter how you slice it, the Amaker era is still probably the most successful period for Harvard basketball in modern history. It is....and it really isn't close under anyone else at Harvard in the last 50 years.
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Nov 22, 2019 14:35:19 GMT -5
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Post by hcnation on Nov 22, 2019 14:35:19 GMT -5
Recruiting (at least on paper) hasn't been the issue for Harvard under Amaker. And no matter how you slice it, the Amaker era is still probably the most successful period for Harvard basketball in modern history. It is....and it really isn't close under anyone else at Harvard in the last 50 years. From old Boston Magazine article The last time Harvard was fired up about men’s hoops was more than four decades ago. In 1969, two of the nation’s top high school prospects, James Brown and Floyd Lewis, elected to attend the school, each prep star having been pursued by more than 200 programs. Brown and Lewis both felt their class would be the one to bring Harvard its first league championship. It almost happened. In their sophomore season, Harvard went 11–3 in league play, losing twice to eventual champ Penn and once to Princeton. It was downhill after that, as Harvard barely played .500 ball (a combined 15–13) in the Ivy League over the next two years, finishing in a tie for third place in 1972, and in fourth place in 1973. And that, unfortunately for Crimson basketball fans, was pretty much the golden era of Harvard hoops until Amaker arrived. In the 34 seasons from 1973 to 2007, Harvard’s four head coaches produced a total of seven winning records.
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Harvard
Nov 22, 2019 14:47:24 GMT -5
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Post by timholycross on Nov 22, 2019 14:47:24 GMT -5
James Brown from Fox Sports, by the way. A teammate was Ken Wolfe, who was a big shot at ABC (producer) for quite a while. A real head case team as time went by.
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Post by efg72 on Nov 22, 2019 17:48:58 GMT -5
Line up to 16 so expectations are not high. If a betting man, and I am not, I think we will over perform
Regardless, watching to see what we learned and how we prepared and adjust.
A young team and coach with potential that needs support and will have moments or games that are hard on the eyes, but the negative comments should be held back for the next 8 weeks
For this group that might be hard
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Harvard
Nov 22, 2019 17:58:45 GMT -5
Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Nov 22, 2019 17:58:45 GMT -5
Harvard is not only without Towns, but also without Henry Welsh, a 6'10" senior
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Post by efg72 on Nov 22, 2019 18:07:28 GMT -5
From the list above neither seems to figure into their short term plans
All on the board should know we recruited Tommy hard
It was down to two schools, HC and UVA, until Duke came in and Red Jenkins, his coach pushed him hard. Back then HC and UVA recruited many of the same players... no reason to revisit the past as it is a waste of my energy
Tommy is a family friend and his mom and uncles were wonderful people.
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Harvard
Nov 22, 2019 19:12:01 GMT -5
Post by rgs318 on Nov 22, 2019 19:12:01 GMT -5
Too many HC Turnovers - but not as bad as last game.
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