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Post by hchoops on Nov 23, 2019 18:21:48 GMT -5
Could not find a thread for this
Navy ahead of SMU, 28-21, early in the fourth
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Post by hc87 on Nov 23, 2019 18:51:58 GMT -5
CAA is a real jumble now...I think after JMU, it's now Nova, Albany and either Towson or UNH.
ND beat BC 40-7
CCSU and Monmouth are other Northeast FCS playoff teams...not sure how it will shake out yet...check AGS tonight...
Dartmouth and Yale co-champs
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Nov 23, 2019 19:01:18 GMT -5
CCSU won, to finish at 10-1
Monmouth beats Hampton, finishes at 10-2
UNH beats Maine, but record is 6-5
Villanova beats Delaware 55-33, to finish at 9-3
Towson loses to Elon, finishes at 7-5
Albany beats Stony Brook 31-26, finishes at 8-4
JMU beats URI by 34, finishes at 11-1.
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Conference standings
JMU 8-0
Albany 6-2
Villlanova 5-3
UNH 5-3
Towson 4-4
A bunch of other teams are also at 4-4., Towson has the best overall record of these.
Seems to me JMU, Albany, Villanova are in, and if there is a 4th from the CAA, its between UNH and Towson.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Nov 23, 2019 20:21:26 GMT -5
CAA was looking at possibly 5 bids heading into today.
I'd now say JMU is in (#2 seed), with Albany and Villanova solidly in. Would be pretty surprised to see Towson (7-5) or UNH (6-5) make the field over the likes of Kennessaw State, Furman and SC State, all of whom will have 8+ wins.
FWIW, if the CAA does only get 3 teams in, it probably makes the committee much less inclined to have Albany and Villanova face each other on opening weekend, making a Holy Cross visit to Albany a much greater possibility. The Great Danes already played Big South auto-qualifier Monmouth this season so that makes a Villanova-Monmouth match-up increasingly likely.
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Post by hcpride on Nov 23, 2019 20:35:45 GMT -5
Agree. What about CCSU? I don't see them getting a seed (they are ranked below Nova, Albany, and Monmouth w/Massey) . They could be matched with one of those 4 noted above and one of those 4 might have a longish trip instead. Lowest of them by a pretty good margin would be HC if that matters in deciding who takes a longish trip. In other words Albany v CCSU, Monmouth v Villanova and HC on the longer road trip. (I agree Albany v Villanova should be unlikely and Albany v Monmouth would be a repeat.)
Or maybe Nova gets lucky and snags a seed leaving 4 teams in the east (and we play Albany).
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Post by hc87 on Nov 23, 2019 21:03:57 GMT -5
My guess is Albany....it's just too easy logistically etc....question is, should we host ovah Albany? Did we bid to host?
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Post by rgs318 on Nov 23, 2019 21:13:00 GMT -5
One can only hope.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Nov 23, 2019 21:38:30 GMT -5
Monmouth was ranked #12 in last week's coaches' poll. If ranking in that poll is a major factor in who gets a bye, Monmouth might draw a bye along with JMU. Several conferences have two teams ranked above Monmouth, so I would think that Montana and Montana State, for example, wouldn't both draw byes.
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Post by hcpride on Nov 23, 2019 21:41:11 GMT -5
I don’t think that (conference membership) is a consideration with the byes.
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Post by deep Purple on Nov 23, 2019 21:45:34 GMT -5
My guess is Central Connecticut. I'd prefer Albany.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Nov 23, 2019 23:19:41 GMT -5
Ive said a couple times already I think CCSU deserves a bye.
11-0 against FCS. Only loss a last second heartbreaker to a bowl eligible Eastern Michigan.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Nov 24, 2019 1:21:52 GMT -5
UMESS got absolutely destroyed today in Amherst to the tune of BYU putting up 42 points in the second quarter.
Hopefully the local New England Mormon population enjoyed the show.
This game also drew a paltry 8,200. The game is up for UMass FBS football. They manage to get a national brand name to come to McGuirk and barely outdraw Holy Cross-Georgetown. Let that sink in.
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Post by bfoley82 on Nov 24, 2019 2:03:46 GMT -5
My guess is Albany....it's just too easy logistically etc....question is, should we host ovah Albany? Did we bid to host? Don't you need lights to host? See Yale and Harvard today! |
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Post by bfoley82 on Nov 24, 2019 2:09:22 GMT -5
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Post by hcpride on Nov 24, 2019 6:28:40 GMT -5
Ive said a couple times already I think CCSU deserves a bye. 11-0 against FCS. Only loss a last second heartbreaker to a bowl eligible Eastern Michigan. No doubt CCSU had a terrific year and beat 11 FCS teams enroute to an 11-1 record and an automatic qualification as conference champion. The devil, of course, is in the details: Fordham, Merrimack, Valpo, Sacred Heart, Columbia, Bryant, LIU, Wagner, St. Frances, Robert Morris, Duquesne. At first glance CCSU might seem similar to Colgate last year (who grabbed the 8th and last seed) in that Colgate's only loss was to an FBS opponent and Colgate also came out of a relatively weak conference. The crucial difference is that Colgate beat a ranked team, racked up 5 shutouts, lost by just 14 to a very good West Point team who finished 19th in the final AP FCS Poll, and was ranked 8th in the nation near the end of the regular season. I don't see CCSU vaulting over higher ranked champions and at-large teams to grab one of the eight seeds/byes. On a different topic, the selection committee might forget last years sad CAA playoff showing and pick a fourth team (although I could certainly argue only 3 are deserving). |
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Nov 24, 2019 7:21:10 GMT -5
Thanks for the bid sheet. No way HC could comply with the bid sheet specs by Monday, let alone by next Saturday. When Luth was put out to bid, there was an option to replace and upgrade the main 12.5 kV line that runs between Kimball and the top of the Hill, via Wheeler, and from Kimball to the east end of Fitton. Replacing the line would require that generators be positioned on campus to provide limited power while the electricity was cut. Although Bond, the general contractor for Luth, has particular expertise in utility construction, the option was apparently never picked up. Thus, in my mind, there is an open question whether the current feed to Fitton would meet the power requirements. Way back in the day, a nationally televised game between Dartmouth and HC (it was the game of the week) was moved to Manning Bowl in Lynn MA because Fitton couldn't support a broadcast. That was a long, long time ago, but I am not aware of any major upgrades to Fitton, other than the metal seating and access to the north-side press box, since that time. |
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Nov 24, 2019 7:39:47 GMT -5
Ive said a couple times already I think CCSU deserves a bye. 11-0 against FCS. Only loss a last second heartbreaker to a bowl eligible Eastern Michigan. No doubt CCSU had a terrific year and beat 11 FBS teams enroute to an 11-1 record and an automatic qualification as conference champion. The devil, of course, is in the details: Fordham, Merrimack, Valpo, Sacred Heart, Columbia, Bryant, LIU, Wagner, St. Frances, Robert Morris, Duquesne. At first glance CCSU might seem similar to Colgate last year (who grabbed the 8th and last seed) in that Colgate's only loss was to an FBS opponent and Colgate also came out of a relatively weak conference. The crucial difference is that Colgate beat a ranked team, racked up 5 shutouts, lost by just 14 to a very good West Point team who finished 19th in the final AP FCS Poll, and was ranked 8th in the nation near the end of the regular season. I don't see CCSU vaulting over higher ranked champions and at-large teams to grab one of the eight seeds/byes. On a different topic, the selection committee might forget last years sad CAA playoff showing and pick a fourth team (although I could certainly argue only 3 are deserving). Great points. Colgate last year certainly had a stronger resume than Central does right now and the strength of schedule will certainly be a factor in where they wind up in the bracket. Columbia appears to be their strongest win. They did have a statement finish yesterday, defeating a very good Duquesne team (who won a playoff game last year) with some style points. A win over Eastern Michigan and they'd be a lock. Hopefully the razor thin margin by which they lost that game will get them the bye they deserve IMO. The players don't make the schedule... |
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Post by rgs318 on Nov 24, 2019 8:12:58 GMT -5
...and THEY have a Jumbotron.  |
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Post by joe on Nov 24, 2019 8:15:05 GMT -5
If this impact HC’s ability to host a playoff game, this should be action item 1 after the season is over. Stop the nonsense and put in a damn video board. |
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Post by lou on Nov 24, 2019 8:18:21 GMT -5
If this impact HC’s ability to host a playoff game, this should be action item 1 after the season is over. Stop the nonsense and put in a damn video board. Fix the Hart first please! |
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Post by Xmassader on Nov 24, 2019 8:35:35 GMT -5
PP The deadline for HC to have submitted a hosting application was last Monday (11/18). Based on issues related to the video board, the lighting and power requirements that you mentioned, ADA compliance, the sale of alcoholic beverages and the likelihood of HC being a home site based on seeding, I would be surprised if HC submitted a bid or, if it did so, the NCAA would select Fitton Field as a host site. However, the requirements are unlikely to change markedly over the next several years and, hopefully, TPTB, Gridiron Council, etc. will take them into account in evaluating Fitton Field upgrades that may allow HC to qualify as a host site in future years.
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Post by CHC8485 on Nov 24, 2019 9:32:11 GMT -5
Is it me or are you guys you’re reading those requirements wrong. I read it as
If you have a video board, video ribbon, etc. send the details on how to operate it. Likely because the NCAA will control the scoreboard.
If you sell alcohol, tell us how you control it.
Lighting could be an issue, but likely only if the game starts after 1:00. And we’ve handled that in the past.
Power could be a issue, but we’ve televised games all season (Charter TV3) and in the recent past on cable networks so unless ESPNU is bringing a couple of extra trucks and a dozen cameras, I’m pretty sure Fitton has the power to televise a game in 2019.
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Post by joe on Nov 24, 2019 9:48:30 GMT -5
Is it me or are you guys you’re reading those requirements wrong. I read it as If you have a video board, video ribbon, etc. send the details on how to operate it. Likely because the NCAA will control the scoreboard. If you sell alcohol, tell us how you control it. Lighting could be an issue, but likely only if the game starts after 1:00. And we’ve handled that in the past. Power could be a issue, but we’ve televised games all season (Charter TV3) and in the recent past on cable networks so unless ESPNU is bringing a couple of extra trucks and a dozen cameras, I’m pretty sure Fitton has the power to televise a game in 2019. I was thinking the same. That’s why I said “if” this is an issue they should fix it. If it isn’t, they should still fix it, but the urgency is less. Fitton would be an outstanding venue to host any type of football game once there are lights and a video board. And it’s time we became ADA compliant. |
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Post by CHC8485 on Nov 24, 2019 10:06:46 GMT -5
BTW - Fitton is ADA compliant based on when it was built. It’s not compliant if it was built new today but it was “built” 33 years ago. And contrary to what’s been posted here a renovation does not require that the stadium be made 100% compliant to today’s ADA requirements, just that a portion of the total budget be used to upgrade access. I think the number is 10% of total budget but not certain.
There are all kinds of rules around the types of changes that require a corresponding ADA investment and I’m not sure if a Jumbotron counts as one of those upgrades that triggers a corresponding ADA upgrade but if it does and it costs $2 million, we’d have to invest $200,000 in ADA upgrades.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Nov 24, 2019 10:45:18 GMT -5
UMESS got absolutely destroyed today in Amherst to the tune of BYU putting up 42 points in the second quarter. Hopefully the local New England Mormon population enjoyed the show. This game also drew a paltry 8,200. The game is up for UMass FBS football. They manage to get a national brand name to come to McGuirk and barely outdraw Holy Cross-Georgetown. Let that sink in. Three 1A futility records set by UMess this season: Most points given up in a season: 632, average points given up per game: 52.66, and average point differential: -33.6. Their BoT needs to take a real hard look at this. |
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