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Post by hchoops on Jan 2, 2020 23:11:27 GMT -5
In the Toilet Bowl, not in Flushing, Cincinnati 38 boston junior college-6
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Post by hc87 on Jan 2, 2020 23:46:41 GMT -5
I'm not shedding any tears for BC, but somewhat similar to ourselves, they seem somewhat out of place in the league they find themselves in for football and basketball in 2020.
The ACC has been very good to them monetarily, brand-wise etc but they really can't compete for a league title in that conference year-in, year-out in those sports.
It's just too bad that a Northeast football conference never really developed for schools that were once called East Indies never really came to fruition for D1 football schools outside of the Big East....a league that had say Army, Navy, BC, Rutgers, Holy Cross, Villanova, Temple, Colgate etc
I know that is unrealistic in today's world...but I think it would have made for a much better football conference for most of these schools in a lot of ways.
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Post by purplehaze on Jan 3, 2020 0:09:08 GMT -5
BC had 8 first downs, 164 total yards and 18 1/2 time if possession - too many bowl games - feel sorry for anyone who paid for a ticket to that one
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Post by hc87 on Jan 3, 2020 0:17:28 GMT -5
God hates BC (as he or she should)...2 straight awful bowl game experiences...I think we'll be about a 4 point road favorite in September
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Post by bfoley82 on Jan 3, 2020 1:27:44 GMT -5
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Post by trimster on Jan 3, 2020 5:08:28 GMT -5
God hates BC (as he or she should)...2 straight awful bowl game experiences...I think we'll be about a 4 point road favorite in September There was a shootout Monday night near Legion Field in Birmingham. One hundred shots fired from automatic weapons. If I were on a bowl committee next fall, I might think BC has some bad karma surrounding it when it comes to playing in a bowl game.
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Post by gks on Jan 3, 2020 7:23:24 GMT -5
I'm not shedding any tears for BC, but somewhat similar to ourselves, they seem somewhat out of place in the league they find themselves in for football and basketball in 2020. The ACC has been very good to them monetarily, brand-wise etc but they really can't compete for a league title in that conference year-in, year-out in those sports. It's just too bad that a Northeast football conference never really developed for schools that were once called East Indies never really came to fruition for D1 football schools outside of the Big East....a league that had say Army, Navy, BC, Rutgers, Holy Cross, Villanova, Temple, Colgate etc I know that is unrealistic in today's world...but I think it would have made for a much better football conference for most of these schools in a lot of ways. Agree with most of this. BC had no choice but to go to the ACC. The money was too great which they have reinvested to raise the school's overall profile. But overall it's athletic program IMO has gotten worse. That bowl game yesterday was embarrassing on many levels. Penn State going to the Big Ten and becoming a 'midwest' school was the death blow to a Northeast FBS conference. One wouldn't and can't work without them.
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Post by hc87 on Jan 3, 2020 11:12:28 GMT -5
I'm not shedding any tears for BC, but somewhat similar to ourselves, they seem somewhat out of place in the league they find themselves in for football and basketball in 2020. The ACC has been very good to them monetarily, brand-wise etc but they really can't compete for a league title in that conference year-in, year-out in those sports. It's just too bad that a Northeast football conference never really developed for schools that were once called East Indies never really came to fruition for D1 football schools outside of the Big East....a league that had say Army, Navy, BC, Rutgers, Holy Cross, Villanova, Temple, Colgate etc I know that is unrealistic in today's world...but I think it would have made for a much better football conference for most of these schools in a lot of ways. Agree with most of this. BC had no choice but to go to the ACC. The money was too great which they have reinvested to raise the school's overall profile. But overall it's athletic program IMO has gotten worse. That bowl game yesterday was embarrassing on many levels. Penn State going to the Big Ten and becoming a 'midwest' school was the death blow to a Northeast FBS conference. One wouldn't and can't work without them. I agree, reality (mostly $$$) in college athletics stepped in sadly. Just saying that I really think the atmosphere around Northeast college football would be so much better if a lot of these schools were still playing one another on a regular basis. If you had a sort of "Hockey East" affiliation in football with schools like BC, Holy Cross, Army, Colgate, UMass, UConn, UNH, Rutgers, Villanova etc. I think interest in football at most of these schools would improve greatly. As it is now, many if not all of these schools are playing schedules that are far-flung and in many cases are of no interest to their fans. Oh well....
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Post by timholycross on Jan 3, 2020 11:18:22 GMT -5
God hates BC (as he or she should)...2 straight awful bowl game experiences...I think we'll be about a 4 point road favorite in September There was a shootout Monday night near Legion Field in Birmingham. One hundred shots fired from automatic weapons. If I were on a bowl committee next fall, I might think BC has some bad karma surrounding it when it comes to playing in a bowl game. ..probably one reason why UAB is building their own facility and moving out. And, speaking of bad karma, if you didn't watch the game or didn't read about it, BC got to play in a second straight bowl with a weather delay. This time, the game restarted (better for BC if it didn't). I saw one shot of the BC side of the field....it appeared their band comprised most of the people on that side.
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Post by hc87 on Jan 3, 2020 11:28:12 GMT -5
"Oh boy! We get to go to the Pittsburgh of the South ovah New Year's!" Said no one evah.
I highly doubt BC had more than a thousand or so, if that, of actual fans who travelled to Birmingham.
The worst kept secret in the college football world today is that the bowls provide most of the FBS programs (I think about 80 of 130 or so make a bowl) another month-6 weeks of added practice time to their season.
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Post by hc87 on Jan 3, 2020 11:49:46 GMT -5
Post on the BC board about yesterday's game....if you evah think things get bad here : This is definitely the worst shucksing I can remember since UCF ran train on Spaz. Thankfully, the era of low-rent, goombah head football coaches is now blessedly over and one can hope that the institutional memory of the humiliations that follow putting greaseballs in charge of our football program is long. And one last time, for good measure, #$@&^*! Daz. #$@&^*! his greasy, incompetent, ketchup gargling, D3 quarterback developing, petulant, vindictive, Central Connecticut State intellect. Right. In. His. #$@&^*!ing. Ear. I hope he goes 0-11 at Colorado State and he finishes his career as a gimp living in a box in Dan Mullen’s basement.
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Post by hc2020 on Jan 3, 2020 11:54:26 GMT -5
I'm not shedding any tears for BC, but somewhat similar to ourselves, they seem somewhat out of place in the league they find themselves in for football and basketball in 2020. The ACC has been very good to them monetarily, brand-wise etc but they really can't compete for a league title in that conference year-in, year-out in those sports. It's just too bad that a Northeast football conference never really developed for schools that were once called East Indies never really came to fruition for D1 football schools outside of the Big East....a league that had say Army, Navy, BC, Rutgers, Holy Cross, Villanova, Temple, Colgate etc I know that is unrealistic in today's world...but I think it would have made for a much better football conference for most of these schools in a lot of ways. Agree with most of this. BC had no choice but to go to the ACC. The money was too great which they have reinvested to raise the school's overall profile. But overall it's athletic program IMO has gotten worse. That bowl game yesterday was embarrassing on many levels. Penn State going to the Big Ten and becoming a 'midwest' school was the death blow to a Northeast FBS conference. One wouldn't and can't work without them. BC’s baseball program is probably one of the few teams that has benefitted from the move to the ACC. They are developing a pretty good program and have had some real success recently. At the moment, baseball and hockey seem to be the strongest sports at the Heights.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Jan 3, 2020 11:58:33 GMT -5
Post on the BC board about yesterday's game....if you evah think things get bad here : This is definitely the worst shucksing I can remember since UCF ran train on Spaz. Thankfully, the era of low-rent, goombah head football coaches is now blessedly over and one can hope that the institutional memory of the humiliations that follow putting greaseballs in charge of our football program is long. And one last time, for good measure, #$@&^*! Daz. #$@&^*! his greasy, incompetent, ketchup gargling, D3 quarterback developing, petulant, vindictive, Central Connecticut State intellect. Right. In. His. #$@&^*!ing. Ear. I hope he goes 0-11 at Colorado State and he finishes his career as a gimp living in a box in Dan Mullen’s basement. I don't think I've ever heard the term "ketchup gargling" lol. Hope their "fun" spills over into basketball!
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Post by hchoops on Jan 3, 2020 12:01:22 GMT -5
Their board needs an administrator like our Dean
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Post by timholycross on Jan 3, 2020 12:16:07 GMT -5
If BC's coaches were "men of color"; my goodness, what outrage there'd be.
Only thing I recall on here like that was one (or maybe two) people made not-so-subtle inferences when Milan Brown got hired. Fortunately, those men/women soon disappeared from the board (not sure who to thank for that).
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Post by hc87 on Jan 3, 2020 12:21:01 GMT -5
One wondahs if Moorhead was fired at Miss. St. if they hadn't pulled out the Egg Bowl due to Ole Miss idiocy, if he might have landed at BC. He did receive a $7MM buyout....so there's that anyway
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Post by timholycross on Jan 3, 2020 12:21:56 GMT -5
"Oh boy! We get to go to the Pittsburgh of the South ovah New Year's!" Said no one evah. I highly doubt BC had more than a thousand or so, if that, of actual fans who travelled to Birmingham. The worst kept secret in the college football world today is that the bowls provide most of the FBS programs (I think about 80 of 130 or so make a bowl) another month-6 weeks of added practice time to their season. I've never been able to figure out what it adds to a program where the coaching staff has been let go. Other than bowl preparation, scout team, etc.; what exactly does it gain anyone. But, you're right, in a successful program they're expecting the extra time and they have a program planned out for the two or three dozen freshmen and/or redshirts.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jan 3, 2020 12:29:13 GMT -5
Post on the BC board about yesterday's game....if you evah think things get bad here : This is definitely the worst shucksing I can remember since UCF ran train on Spaz. Thankfully, the era of low-rent, goombah head football coaches is now blessedly over and one can hope that the institutional memory of the humiliations that follow putting greaseballs in charge of our football program is long. And one last time, for good measure, #$@&^*! Daz. #$@&^*! his greasy, incompetent, ketchup gargling, D3 quarterback developing, petulant, vindictive, Central Connecticut State intellect. Right. In. His. #$@&^*!ing. Ear. I hope he goes 0-11 at Colorado State and he finishes his career as a gimp living in a box in Dan Mullen’s basement. And posters here thought Milan Brown was treated poorly...
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Jan 3, 2020 12:37:47 GMT -5
I don't read a lot of high major school message boards (unless it's a situation like this where I can get satisfaction out of others' classless misery)…. but from what I've read on that board from time to time, they have to be right up there with the worst of the worst.
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Post by rickii on Jan 3, 2020 13:52:10 GMT -5
"Oh boy! We get to go to the Pittsburgh of the South ovah New Year's!" Said no one evah. I highly doubt BC had more than a thousand or so, if that, of actual fans who travelled to Birmingham. The worst kept secret in the college football world today is that the bowls provide most of the FBS programs (I think about 80 of 130 or so make a bowl) another month-6 weeks of added practice time to their season. I've never been able to figure out what it adds to a program where the coaching staff has been let go. Other than bowl preparation, scout team, etc.; what exactly does it gain anyone.
But, you're right, in a successful program they're expecting the extra time and they have a program planned out for the two or three dozen freshmen and/or redshirts. This will help you tim....
fanbuzz.com/college-football/bowl-game-payouts/
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Post by rickii on Jan 3, 2020 13:57:19 GMT -5
"Oh boy! We get to go to the Pittsburgh of the South ovah New Year's!" Said no one evah.
I highly doubt BC had more than a thousand or so, if that, of actual fans who travelled to Birmingham. The worst kept secret in the college football world today is that the bowls provide most of the FBS programs (I think about 80 of 130 or so make a bowl) another month-6 weeks of added practice time to their season.
You're honestly comparing Pittsburgh to Birmingham ?
( perhaps Detroit would be a better comparison )
And why do you keep saying that the obvious bowl-prep practice is some sorta secret ? A secret from whom ?
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Post by rickii on Jan 3, 2020 14:06:30 GMT -5
I'm not shedding any tears for BC, but somewhat similar to ourselves, they seem somewhat out of place in the league they find themselves in for football and basketball in 2020. The ACC has been very good to them monetarily, brand-wise etc but they really can't compete for a league title in that conference year-in, year-out in those sports. It's just too bad that a Northeast football conference never really developed for schools that were once called East Indies never really came to fruition for D1 football schools outside of the Big East....a league that had say Army, Navy, BC, Rutgers, Holy Cross, Villanova, Temple, Colgate etc I know that is unrealistic in today's world...but I think it would have made for a much better football conference for most of these schools in a lot of ways. Agree with most of this. BC had no choice but to go to the ACC. The money was too great which they have reinvested to raise the school's overall profile. But overall it's athletic program IMO has gotten worse. That bowl game yesterday was embarrassing on many levels.Penn State going to the Big Ten and becoming a 'midwest' school was the death blow to a Northeast FBS conference. One wouldn't and can't work without them. It was indeed.
But I'm trying to think of team that won a bowl game without their best player ( AA RB Dillon ), no Head Coach and a lame-duck staff staring at non-retention. Can you ?
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Jan 3, 2020 15:02:30 GMT -5
I'm not shedding any tears for BC, but somewhat similar to ourselves, they seem somewhat out of place in the league they find themselves in for football and basketball in 2020. The ACC has been very good to them monetarily, brand-wise etc but they really can't compete for a league title in that conference year-in, year-out in those sports. It's just too bad that a Northeast football conference never really developed for schools that were once called East Indies never really came to fruition for D1 football schools outside of the Big East....a league that had say Army, Navy, BC, Rutgers, Holy Cross, Villanova, Temple, Colgate etc I know that is unrealistic in today's world...but I think it would have made for a much better football conference for most of these schools in a lot of ways. Agree with most of this. BC had no choice but to go to the ACC. The money was too great which they have reinvested to raise the school's overall profile. But overall it's athletic program IMO has gotten worse. That bowl game yesterday was embarrassing on many levels. Penn State going to the Big Ten and becoming a 'midwest' school was the death blow to a Northeast FBS conference. One wouldn't and can't work without them. As of 1990, both Florida State and Penn State were still independent. Big East football could have had a lot more staying power if it had looked like this upon formation: 1) Penn State 2) Florida State 3) Miami 4) Pitt 5) Syracuse 6) BC 7) Virginia Tech 8) West Virginia 9) Rutgers 10) Temple
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Post by timholycross on Jan 3, 2020 16:25:46 GMT -5
Agree with most of this. BC had no choice but to go to the ACC. The money was too great which they have reinvested to raise the school's overall profile. But overall it's athletic program IMO has gotten worse. That bowl game yesterday was embarrassing on many levels. Penn State going to the Big Ten and becoming a 'midwest' school was the death blow to a Northeast FBS conference. One wouldn't and can't work without them. As of 1990, both Florida State and Penn State were still independent. Big East football could have had a lot more staying power if it had looked like this upon formation: 1) Penn State 2) Florida State 3) Miami 4) Pitt 5) Syracuse 6) BC 7) Virginia Tech 8) West Virginia 9) Rutgers 10) Temple The key blunder was the Big East not inviting Penn State concurrently with Pittsburgh circa 1982-3. Made no sense given they were rivals and they ended up with a 9 team league for 7-8 years.
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Post by CHC8485 on Jan 3, 2020 16:41:18 GMT -5
Ha-ha, the fools! [They] fell victim to one of the classic blunders, the most famous of which is “Never get involved in a land war in Asia,” [and the second] but only slightly less well known is this: “Never go in against a Sicilian, when death is on the line! A-ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha?
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