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Post by southernsader on Dec 6, 2019 19:23:45 GMT -5
Set up a scheduling alliance with two or three games in the Bay Area, St. Mary’s and fellow Jesuit schools, Santa Clara and USF. Would be a series during Thanksgiving break or Christmas after the team is on winter break and finished exams. The following year, a reversal could could take place the following years with the teams playing either HC, BC and Fairfield as part of a home and home series. The only barrier during post Christmas will be the start of League play. Excellent idea!
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Dec 6, 2019 19:37:35 GMT -5
Paging HC70.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Dec 6, 2019 19:59:39 GMT -5
HC should also set up an OOC scheduling alliance with fellow Patriot League member BU. Two teams that will agree to play in Boston and Worcester on a Thursday, then reverse the teams to play on Saturday. Depending on the quality of the opponent, if really good, play in the DCU and Agganis. Could improve the strength of schedule for a couple of home games.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Dec 6, 2019 20:14:28 GMT -5
Bay Area or LA Area teams would have more appeal, especially for families than Christmas time in Buffalo and Niagara Falls Far more attractions to see between games. Can’t imagine anyone wanting to stand along the Niagara river and Lake Ontario in December. 🥶
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Post by timholycross on Dec 6, 2019 20:15:31 GMT -5
Double-header....one at the DCU one at Agganis...if they didn't sell off their basketball floor..
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Post by sader1970 on Dec 6, 2019 20:16:58 GMT -5
Yeah but what if you were there when that barge totally frees and goes over the falls? Can SF, LA, SD match that? Come on!
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Post by Crucis#1 on Dec 6, 2019 20:22:44 GMT -5
Again would depend on the strength of the two OOC opponents. If really strong teams, single games each night. If less strong teams, a double headed in Boston, then two days later in Worcester. Visiting teams would enjoy fine cuisine in the North End and Shrewsbury Street, as well as educational enriching tours of colonial land marks. Old North Bridge, Lexington and Plymouth for example.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Dec 6, 2019 20:25:24 GMT -5
Yeah but what if you were there when that barge totally frees and goes over the falls? Can SF, LA, SD match that? Come on! How about an earthquake in CA, minor tremor nothing major, to match the barge going over the falls. 😲
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 6, 2019 20:40:08 GMT -5
Set up a scheduling alliance with two or three games in the Bay Area, St. Mary’s and fellow Jesuit schools, Santa Clara and USF. Would be a series during Thanksgiving break or Christmas after the team is on winter break and finished exams. The following year, a reversal could take place with the teams playing either HC, BC and Fairfield as part of a home and home series. The only barrier during post Christmas will be the start of League play. i have corrected my original post of the repeats 😊 Nice to see southern Saders and efg’72 liking the concept. Hope it occurs before we are Purple Knights.😀 Killingly HS in CT just changed their name from the Red Men to the Red Hawks. The girls teams were called the Red Gals. Not sure if they had to become female Hawks unless the term "gal" is now considered demeaning.
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Post by efg72 on Dec 6, 2019 20:51:05 GMT -5
Set up a scheduling alliance with two or three games in the Bay Area, St. Mary’s and fellow Jesuit schools, Santa Clara and USF. Would be a series during Thanksgiving break or Christmas after the team is on winter break and finished exams. The following year, a reversal could could take place the following years with the teams playing either HC, BC and Fairfield as part of a home and home series. The only barrier during post Christmas will be the start of League play. Excellent idea! The other option is to allow the PL continue for football and other sports, but create a Vatican Conference of Jesuit Institutions for HOOPS discussed over the past 50 years but ripe for consideration
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Post by ndgradbuthcfan on Dec 6, 2019 20:53:32 GMT -5
Set up a scheduling alliance with two or three games in the Bay Area, St. Mary’s and fellow Jesuit schools, Santa Clara and USF. Would be a series during Thanksgiving break or Christmas after the team is on winter break and finished exams. The following year, a reversal could take place with the teams playing either HC, BC and Fairfield as part of a home and home series. The only barrier during post Christmas will be the start of League play. i have corrected my original post of the repeats 😊 Nice to see southern Saders and efg’72 liking the concept. Hope it occurs before we are Purple Knights.😀 Killingly HS in CT just changed their name from the Red Men to the Red Hawks. The girls teams were called the Red Gals. Not sure if they had to become female Hawks unless the term "gal" is now considered demeaning. "Red Men" is demeaning.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Dec 6, 2019 20:58:05 GMT -5
Let’s get Pope Francis to mandate the Vatican Conference by declaring it Ex Cathedra. That way all the institutions must fall in line with the new conference.🤗 Punishment for non compliance would be “Basketball Ex Communication”.
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Post by efg72 on Dec 6, 2019 21:03:13 GMT -5
Could we get Francis to mandate the Vatican Conference by declaring it Ex Cathedra. That way all the institutions must fall in line with the new conference.🤗 Punishment for non compliance would be “Basketball Ex Communication”. Father Bill George and I discussed this many times when he ran Government Affairs for Georgetown. He is now part of the Vatican operation in the US and serves on my Health Advisory Board
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Post by Crucis#1 on Dec 6, 2019 21:06:29 GMT -5
Give him a call, mention that we would like to see it done by 2025. Maybe our bifocals will still be able to see the numbers on the jerseys.
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Post by hc1998 on Dec 6, 2019 23:11:21 GMT -5
hc1998 I think we lost the Cal game on the court but IIRC Cal later forfeited the game because of an NCAA violation by its coach (Todd Bozeman?). Does any other poster remember the circumstances? Interesting...I think you may be correct, but I dont like the concept of vacated wins in general...I like it even less when you give the team you beat a W after the fact...so I still say we are 0-1 against Cal, but in any event, I still do not believe it was on a neutral site
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Dec 6, 2019 23:46:43 GMT -5
Per Sports-Reference the game was forfeited not vacated
Forfeits and Vacated Games
F = Forfeit A forfeit changes a school's original win into a loss and its opponent's original loss into a win.
V = Vacated A vacated game is expunged from a school's record, although its opponent's record is not changed.
Following is Wikipedia's report on the matter:
Bozeman was forced to resign in the fall of 1996, shortly before the start of the 1996-97 season. He admitted paying $30,000 over two years to the parents of Golden Bears recruit Jelani Gardner so they could drive from their home in Mendocino to see him play. When Gardner's playing time dwindled, his parents turned Bozeman in to the NCAA and Gardner eventually transferred to Pepperdine.[1] He had also been the subject of a sexual harassment complaint; just before the announcement he had been ordered to stay away from a former Cal student who had accused him of making lewd phone calls and threatening her.[2]
As a result of a subsequent investigation, Cal had to forfeit the entire 1994–95 season and all but two games of the 1995–96 season. The school also vacated its appearance in the 1996 NCAA Tournament. The NCAA also imposed an eight-year "show-cause" order on Bozeman. The show-cause order meant that until 2005, no NCAA member school could hire Bozeman unless it either agreed to impose sanctions on him or convinced the NCAA that he had served his punishment. The NCAA came down particularly hard on Bozeman because he'd lied to school and NCAA officials about his role in making the payments and admitted it only a week before the NCAA hearing.[3]
Since most schools will not even consider hiring a coach with an outstanding "show-cause" on his record, Bozeman was effectively blackballed from the college ranks for eight years. He was also hampered by rumors that he had deliberately undermined Campanelli,[4] even though the National Association of Basketball Coaches cleared him of any wrongdoing in the events that led to Campanelli's ouster.[5]
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 7, 2019 1:28:04 GMT -5
Killingly HS in CT just changed their name from the Red Men to the Red Hawks. The girls teams were called the Red Gals. Not sure if they had to become female Hawks unless the term "gal" is now considered demeaning. "Red Men" is demeaning. Yes it is. Some local diehards put up a fuss about changing the traditional name they and their ancestors played under but then a Native American spoke up about using his ancestors as a mascot and that sealed it. I really haven't noticed if Red Gals has changed to Red Hawks also but that would be the gracious way to go.
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Post by Crosser on Dec 7, 2019 2:34:17 GMT -5
Can we go back to lou’s question about streaming Stadium? We never left; this is a parenthetical discussion. 🙂
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Post by trimster on Dec 7, 2019 7:18:28 GMT -5
The other option is to allow the PL continue for football and other sports, but create a Vatican Conference of Jesuit Institutions for HOOPS discussed over the past 50 years but ripe for consideration If the Jesuit League doesn't fly, I would settle for the 5 Catholic colleges in the A 10 plus HC, FAirfield, Siena and Iona.
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Post by Tom on Dec 7, 2019 8:32:32 GMT -5
Also new to D-I, U Lowell has played HC 10 times (although not since the war). I suppose some difference in crossing the state line, but a little surprising HC never played Bryant even in the olden days Which war? WWII Probably something to do with my parents' generation, but I've never heard Korea, Viet Nam, or the two gulfs wars called "the war". I am aware some people used to refer to WWI as "the war"
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Post by rgs318 on Dec 7, 2019 8:37:12 GMT -5
I am old enough to remember WWI being called "the war" short for The War To End All Wars, I imagine.
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Post by Tom on Dec 7, 2019 8:38:08 GMT -5
Yes it is. Some local diehards put up a fuss about changing the traditional name they and their ancestors played under but then a Native American spoke up about using his ancestors as a mascot and that sealed it. I really haven't noticed if Red Gals has changed to Red Hawks also but that would be the gracious way to go. I would assume the girls changed as well. Other than very specific gender references (as above or South Carolina) , a school's nickname is it's nickname no matter what gender the student
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Post by Ignutz on Dec 7, 2019 12:03:26 GMT -5
The other option is to allow the PL continue for football and other sports, but create a Vatican Conference of Jesuit Institutions for HOOPS discussed over the past 50 years but ripe for consideration If the Jesuit League doesn't fly, I would settle for the 5 Catholic colleges in the A 10 plus HC, FAirfield, Siena and Iona. Sounds good, but I count seven Catholic schools in the A10 - Dayton, Duquesne, Fordham, La Salle, St. Bonnie, St. Joe, St. Louis. We’ll need one more school for an even twelve.
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Post by trimster on Dec 7, 2019 12:31:29 GMT -5
If the Jesuit League doesn't fly, I would settle for the 5 Catholic colleges in the A 10 plus HC, FAirfield, Siena and Iona. Sounds good, but I count seven Catholic schools in the A10 - Dayton, Duquesne, Fordham, La Salle, St. Bonnie, St. Joe, St. Louis. We’ll need one more school for an even twelve. I was thinking of it being an Eastern Conference but if they wanted in, that would be great. Since it would stretch to the Midwest, maybe another Jesuit college in the University of Detroit?
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Post by Ignutz on Dec 7, 2019 13:28:05 GMT -5
Sounds good, but I count seven Catholic schools in the A10 - Dayton, Duquesne, Fordham, La Salle, St. Bonnie, St. Joe, St. Louis. We’ll need one more school for an even twelve. I was thinking of it being an Eastern Conference but if they wanted in, that would be great. Since it would stretch to the Midwest, maybe another Jesuit college in the University of Detroit? Or maybe Manhattan? Start the paperwork.
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