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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jan 12, 2022 11:34:46 GMT -5
I had never heard of Christopher Newport University
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 12, 2022 12:05:21 GMT -5
I had never heard of Christopher Newport University Me either. That makes them a good addition to next year's schedule.
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Post by bfoley82 on Jan 12, 2022 12:23:57 GMT -5
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Post by newfieguy74 on Jan 12, 2022 12:24:41 GMT -5
I had never heard of Christopher Newport University In the 1960's I lived in Va Beach for several years--maybe 10 miles from Newport News--and I never heard of CNU.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Jan 12, 2022 12:35:11 GMT -5
I heard St, Mary's wanted Krikorian to replace Randy Bennett as head coach, but Krikorian turned it down because he didn't want to coach in McKeon Pavilion......
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jan 12, 2022 12:35:37 GMT -5
Here's another comparison between HC and CNU: I wonder if the Christopher Newport message board is visited as frequently by an insufferable dweeb troll as this board is?
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jan 12, 2022 12:39:25 GMT -5
More importantly, what would his annually salary be at HC compared to Chris Newport?
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Post by bfoley82 on Jan 12, 2022 12:48:04 GMT -5
I had never heard of Christopher Newport University In the 1960's I lived in Va Beach for several years--maybe 10 miles from Newport News--and I never heard of CNU. They were founded in 1960
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Post by bfoley82 on Jan 12, 2022 12:53:09 GMT -5
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Post by hceconhist on Jan 12, 2022 13:04:01 GMT -5
So his salary would approximately triple? I think that, and the opportunity to coach DI, would more than offset the difference in facilities.
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Post by HC92 on Jan 12, 2022 13:09:27 GMT -5
So his salary would approximately triple? I think that, and the opportunity to coach DI, would more than offset the difference in facilities. You don’t need to accept bfoley’s premise that the facilities are better. More importantly, if a coach is going to turn down a D1 job, even a tough one, to coach in front of 400 people while winning 80+% of his games, he’s probably not the guy we want.
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Post by Tom on Jan 12, 2022 13:11:12 GMT -5
Maybe I'm too old school, but nothing in that photo looks too great to me. Looks like a bunch of temporary bleachers set up in a big open gym with a floor thrown down on some other playing surface. Also, the gaps in the temporary bleachers could give a funky back drop depending where you're shooting from. I never heard of Christopher Newport, but with zero knowledge of the school or its facilities, I couldn't dispute the statement it was a better arena than Hart. Thanks to the link with photo, I know that, by my standards, Hart is a better venue
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Post by bfoley82 on Jan 12, 2022 13:12:47 GMT -5
So his salary would approximately triple? I think that, and the opportunity to coach DI, would more than offset the difference in facilities. You don’t need to accept bfoley’s premise that the facilities are better. More importantly, if a coach is going to turn down a D1 job, even a tough one, to coach in front of 400 people while winning 80+% of his games, he’s probably not the guy we want. Or he could go D-1 and coach in front of 800 fans. He will have better options than HC.
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Post by hceconhist on Jan 12, 2022 13:14:28 GMT -5
So his salary would approximately triple? I think that, and the opportunity to coach DI, would more than offset the difference in facilities. You don’t need to accept bfoley’s premise that the facilities are better. More importantly, if a coach is going to turn down a D1 job, even a tough one, to coach in front of 400 people while winning 80+% of his games, he’s probably not the guy we want. Ha! Yeah, it does seem debatable at best. They are certainly better than the facilities in my HC days, but it's much closer to a jump ball now. And absolutely, anyone who would not take that obvious (even that's an understatement?) promotion is not someone we want.
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Post by hceconhist on Jan 12, 2022 13:18:28 GMT -5
You don’t need to accept bfoley’s premise that the facilities are better. More importantly, if a coach is going to turn down a D1 job, even a tough one, to coach in front of 400 people while winning 80+% of his games, he’s probably not the guy we want. Or he could go D-1 and coach in front of 800 fans. He will have better options than HC. Any low-tier D1 job is going to have a similar attendance, especially with all of today's uncertainty.
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 12, 2022 13:28:12 GMT -5
Way too much gym envy going on. The baskets are all ten feet high, the length is 91.86 ft and the width is 49.22 ft. How many victories would you trade for a showplace gym? None for me. I watch on streaming which is the trend. Colleges going out of business is another trend as is the soaring price of construction. Connect the dots.
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Post by bfoley82 on Jan 12, 2022 13:35:57 GMT -5
Way too much gym envy going on. The baskets are all ten feet high, the length is 91.86 ft and the width is 49.22 ft. How many victories would you trade for a showplace gym? None for me. I watch on streaming which is the trend. Colleges going out of business is another trend as is the soaring price of construction. Connect the dots. CNU is a public school...when compared to private Holy Cross.
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Post by Tom on Jan 12, 2022 14:01:48 GMT -5
Or he could go D-1 and coach in front of 800 fans. He will have better options than HC. Any low-tier D1 job is going to have a similar attendance, especially with all of today's uncertainty. Last week, I was at a game at D-I U Lowell (aka UMass Lowell). Box score attendance was 242. Actual attendance was so small, I counted and it was less than 100. In fact, I'd say that combining all the event staff(players, coaches, officials, refs, cheerleaders, and band) added up to more people than fans at the game. FWIW, they have two facilities. This game was at the old one, which I would rate at below average compared to its former D-II peers. The new one is nicer
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Post by bfoley82 on Jan 12, 2022 14:03:50 GMT -5
Any low-tier D1 job is going to have a similar attendance, especially with all of today's uncertainty. Last week, I was at a game at D-I U Lowell (aka UMass Lowell). Box score attendance was 242. Actual attendance was so small, I counted and it was less than 100. In fact, I'd say that combining all the event staff(players, coaches, officials, refs, cheerleaders, and band) added up to more people than fans at the game. FWIW, they have two facilities. This game was at the old one, which I would rate at below average compared to its former D-II peers. The new one is nicer I agree that Lowell playing home games in that old gym is awful. I had a game there last year. I shot a D-1 women's game between Liberty and Houston that had 18 people in the crowd in Amherst, MA.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jan 12, 2022 14:08:47 GMT -5
Last week, I was at a game at D-I U Lowell (aka UMass Lowell). Box score attendance was 242. Actual attendance was so small, I counted and it was less than 100. In fact, I'd say that combining all the event staff(players, coaches, officials, refs, cheerleaders, and band) added up to more people than fans at the game. FWIW, they have two facilities. This game was at the old one, which I would rate at below average compared to its former D-II peers. The new one is nicer I agree that Lowell playing home games in that old gym is awful. I had a game there last year. I shot a D-1 women's game between Liberty and Houston that had 18 people in the crowd in Amherst, MA.Was the word out that you were going to be at the game?
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Post by bfoley82 on Jan 12, 2022 14:19:46 GMT -5
I agree that Lowell playing home games in that old gym is awful. I had a game there last year. I shot a D-1 women's game between Liberty and Houston that had 18 people in the crowd in Amherst, MA.Was the word out that you were going to be at the game? No...this was pre pandemic. Some tournament UMass-Amherst hosted
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 12, 2022 14:40:58 GMT -5
Any low-tier D1 job is going to have a similar attendance, especially with all of today's uncertainty. Last week, I was at a game at D-I U Lowell (aka UMass Lowell). Box score attendance was 242. Actual attendance was so small, I counted and it was less than 100. In fact, I'd say that combining all the event staff(players, coaches, officials, refs, cheerleaders, and band) added up to more people than fans at the game. FWIW, they have two facilities. This game was at the old one, which I would rate at below average compared to its former D-II peers. The new one is nicer aka Lowell Tech?😊
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Post by HC92 on Jan 12, 2022 15:00:25 GMT -5
FWIW, Krikorian is from Auburn and still has much of his family there. I suspect he would gladly take the job if offered.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jan 12, 2022 15:04:11 GMT -5
FWIW, Krikorian is from Auburn and still has much of his family there. I suspect he would gladly take the job if offered. A Penn grad and has coaching stops at Penn, Lafayette, and Navy. He checks some boxes.
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Post by Tom on Jan 12, 2022 15:27:09 GMT -5
Last week, I was at a game at D-I U Lowell (aka UMass Lowell). Box score attendance was 242. Actual attendance was so small, I counted and it was less than 100. In fact, I'd say that combining all the event staff(players, coaches, officials, refs, cheerleaders, and band) added up to more people than fans at the game. FWIW, they have two facilities. This game was at the old one, which I would rate at below average compared to its former D-II peers. The new one is nicer I agree that Lowell playing home games in that old gym is awful. I had a game there last year. I shot a D-1 women's game between Liberty and Houston that had 18 people in the crowd in Amherst, MA. Obviously an extreme example. The premise out there was that HC wouldn't want a guy that would turn down a D-I job to kill it a small school in front of 400 people. The rebuttal was that HC isn't much better a place only pulling in 800 Econhist said that on today's environment HC's attendance is not that uncommon for low tier D-I. I cited U Lowell as an example that was much lower. For what it's worth the premise referred to winning 80% of games in front of 400 people. I think if HC was winning 80% of its games, there would be a lot more than 800 people at a game (assuming the school let any fans in at all )
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