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Post by WorcesterGray on Dec 17, 2019 10:44:52 GMT -5
At eight pages, methinks this lengthy thread, Not Nelson, is the thing that's "ovah its head."
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Post by trimster on Dec 17, 2019 11:16:14 GMT -5
Catholic schools have big gyms and small minds.
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 17, 2019 21:11:18 GMT -5
In HC's BB hay day it had a big Chapel and no Gym.
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Post by rgs318 on Dec 17, 2019 22:57:46 GMT -5
They got one when the Cooz came to the Cross. An announcement of asa on-campus gym was made in the dining hall to the4 cheers of the students. Te next day, they drove tthe cows out of the barn and put kin a wood floor and plus for the baskets.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2019 6:32:34 GMT -5
The enthusiasm and banter from HC alums has been a pleasure to follow over the past six years. My son is a Class of 2018 graduate and former HC student-athlete. He throughly enjoyed his experience competing in the Patriot League, and benefitted from the strong alumni network in NYC when landing a job after graduation. Not being from New England, I would argue that most folks outside of the area have probably never heard of the College of the Holy Cross. For better or worse, HC has become a regionally-recognized college at best. With that said, my son wouldn't trade his experiences at HC for any other school. He had more attractive athletic offers from schools like Georgetown, Marquette, BU, and Providence. But chose HC, due to its strong academic programs, small class sizes, and beautiful campus. Worcester, MA can be a tough sell, but many of the top universities in the States are located in less than desirable areas. Win and losses are important, but I believe that HC is best served by the company it keeps in association with other Patriot League institutions. Outside of the Ivy League, the Patriot League provides a true student-athlete experience with strict parameters in regard to missing class time. It is almost criminal as to the amount of class time that D1 student-athletes miss in other conferences due to travel for competitions. Stay the course HC! The small college on the hill with incredible academic programs and D1 sports doesn't exist in many places. If you throw a bit more money into coaching staffs for all sports and max out on scholarships for each sport at the college, then you will see more winning seasons.
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Post by hcpride on Dec 19, 2019 8:50:26 GMT -5
As far as the original question ("Is Nelson over his head?"), given the talent level of our team I don't think a current record of 1-10 gives any indication that he is (or is not) over his head here at HC.
While it is true that many of us hoped (if things broke just right) we might hit 10 wins this year I can't see holding him responsible if we don't hit that mark given the squad.
Given his background as a player and coach I can't imagine the X's and 0's are beyond him...it as all about the recruiting trail at this point.
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Post by sarasota on Dec 19, 2019 14:18:36 GMT -5
hcsports - Thank you for your kind comments. It was a pleasure to read your post. Obviously, your son, a scholar-athlete at HC, must be an impressive young man. And, clearly you are a great dad. You hit the nail on the head. HC is a great college of high standards and integrity. Many, many years ago, in a private discussion about HC, a Columbia professor pointed out to me that although HC is not widely known in popular culture, it is widely known and highly respected among the professional and business class. He called HC an "insiders school." HC alums may have many different opinions on a variety of topics but rest assured, we all share a love and pride for our alma mater. We welcome you to our discussion and look forward to your son joining with his fellow alums on this board. GoCrossGo. m'67 LoveHC When I got my first college teaching job I learned that the dept chairman that hired me had 150 applications on his desk, many of whom had more advanced degrees than me. I know that my HC degree had a lot to do with him hiring me. When I interviewed for Georgetown Med in front of an MD I waxed eloquent about HC's great pre-med program. He didn't seem impressed at all. After I was accepted I found that....that's right....he was an HC grad. Over and over throughout my professional career I found that an HC degree had a sterling reputation. It is indeed an "insiders school."
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Dec 19, 2019 14:26:43 GMT -5
than I
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Post by sarasota on Dec 19, 2019 14:39:50 GMT -5
I agree. Thanks. It's Subjective Case, not Objective Case.
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Post by ronphc75 on Dec 19, 2019 14:39:53 GMT -5
Coach Nelson will be successful in the near future when he has recruited the type of players he likes and wants who fit in at HC. This year will be a learning year due to the loss of two starters who went elsewhere and due to the fact of the lack of consistent chemistry between the returnees and the freshmen. So have faith and trust in Coach Nelson as he attempts to right the ship!
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Post by rgs318 on Dec 19, 2019 14:45:14 GMT -5
Absolutely!
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Post by rickii on Dec 19, 2019 14:55:59 GMT -5
Four Georgetown BB players have announced they are entering the transfer portal. Any indication we are looking at any of them? If they were accepted at GU they should be accepted at HC.Like Patrick Ewing ?
I'm gonna guess some sarcasm, yes ?
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Post by bison137 on Dec 19, 2019 15:24:03 GMT -5
Four Georgetown BB players have announced they are entering the transfer portal. Any indication we are looking at any of them? If they were accepted at GU they should be accepted at HC.Like Patrick Ewing ?
I'm gonna guess some sarcasm, yes ?
Hopefully a lot of sarcasm. I would guess that perhaps 10% of Georgetown's varsity players over the years could have cleared the PL AI hurdle.
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Post by hc87 on Dec 19, 2019 23:33:42 GMT -5
Like Patrick Ewing ?
I'm gonna guess some sarcasm, yes ?
Hopefully a lot of sarcasm. I would guess that perhaps 10% of Georgetown's varsity players over the years could have cleared the PL AI hurdle. And no doubt the world would have definitely ended in a fiery apocalypse if we had joined the Big East ...God, I hate this league (for basketball).....
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Post by efg72 on Dec 19, 2019 23:41:06 GMT -5
Since this thread covers about a dozen issues can we please close it out
And Agree that we are aligned the topic has no basis in reality Review Where we are in the spring Defer final judgement until May 22
Merry Christmas one and all
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Post by HC92 on Dec 22, 2019 6:36:05 GMT -5
Assistant coach Sam Ferry:
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Nov 20, 2021 21:29:38 GMT -5
Bump.
:: Ducks for cover ::
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Post by HC92 on Nov 20, 2021 21:43:15 GMT -5
Trying to be patient but it’s getting harder and harder by the day. Injuries haven’t helped but we can’t turn the ball over twice as much as we assist on baskets. I was not impressed with Marquette’s coaching the one time I saw them live while Nelson was there. Thus far, I am not impressed with Nelson's coaching. What exactly is it that we’re supposed to be good at? One of RW’s things was to find something where you’d get an advantage over your opponents and be really good at that. What is that thing supposed to be for us?
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 20, 2021 21:49:06 GMT -5
Recruiting? I’ve heard he’s great at that.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Nov 20, 2021 22:05:11 GMT -5
In 2019 I sat with two long-time Marquette season tix holders at the NCAA's in Hartford when they got smoked by Ja Morant & the Racers in the best individual performance I've ever seen in person from a college player. One said to me "Everyone knows Woj is atrocious and I hope they fire his ass before the the plane lands". I asked if any of the assts. were worthy of a bump up if they do, and the other looked at me like I was nuts, and said "anyone who learned from Woj? F*ck no!"
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Post by hc87 on Nov 20, 2021 22:15:35 GMT -5
I feel "seen" with this bump lol....I didn't even watch the AFA game today....the kid is indeed "ovah his head" and was a terrible hire by our former AD....thank God for football.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Nov 20, 2021 22:23:37 GMT -5
Good thing the old Assumption FB coach isn't in over his head as you told us he would be.
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Post by hc87 on Nov 20, 2021 22:38:44 GMT -5
Good thing the old Assumption FB coach isn't in over his head as you told us he would be. Bentley coach, Kavanaugh woulda been bettah....
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Nov 21, 2021 5:44:40 GMT -5
I don't know...trying to be positive, I would at least like to see a few games with the whole roster available, especially RJJ (who I feel may be their most valuable guy). But it's extremely frustrating right now.
How bout this though: say the season does not get much better, but down the stretch they pull a Tom Gilmore/Lehigh thing, win their last few games and then win at least one in the PLT. Change anyone's mind (those convinced now he's not the right guy)?
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Post by cmo on Nov 21, 2021 7:40:18 GMT -5
Can he get better with experience?
I ask because if we pull the plug again, this being the transfer portal era, then most of our roster will leave with him.
Is there a better chance of Nelson learning on job and improving or hiring someone new, having everyone leave, and then making a great hire and having the new guy turn it around in 3 to 4 years? (
And what is the chance of us of us hitting a home run hire with the next search? (Considering we don’t have an AD).
Does crossports need me to go watch. Chris Bartley practice to see if he’s a good fit, like I did with Chrsney? 😁
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