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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2020 14:34:14 GMT -5
If Chesney can get guys like Deonte Harris to play at Assumption, I am on board. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deonte_HarrisJust curious, why would someone that fast and athletic be playing Div II in MA? Harris looks like Jerry Jeudy of Alabama. |
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Post by southernsader on Jan 5, 2020 14:58:51 GMT -5
Because Jeudy is a tad bigger than 5'6", 165 lbs.
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Post by hcpride on Jan 5, 2020 16:04:25 GMT -5
If Chesney can get guys like Deonte Harris to play at Assumption, I am on board. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deonte_HarrisJust curious, why would someone that fast and athletic be playing Div II in MA? Harris looks like Jerry Jeudy of Alabama. Among the silliest crossporter comments about Chesney during his hiring process was that he would not be used to coaching the talented D-1 athletes at HC because he was coming from D-II Assumption. The second silliest bunch were from folks who apparently were unfamiliar with Johns Hopkins University (where Chesney once coached) who questioned whether he could coach athletes who have serious classroom commitments like they do at Holy Cross. I half expected somebody to suggest he couldn't coach the talented D-1 kickers because he was coming from D-II Assumption. Would make about as much sense, knowing of Cole Tracy, as the first two. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2020 16:30:34 GMT -5
Because Jeudy is a tad bigger than 5'6", 165 lbs. if you're that fast, you will have tons of opportunities regardless of size. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2020 16:33:17 GMT -5
If Chesney can get guys like Deonte Harris to play at Assumption, I am on board. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deonte_HarrisJust curious, why would someone that fast and athletic be playing Div II in MA? Harris looks like Jerry Jeudy of Alabama. Among the silliest crossporter comments about Chesney during his hiring process was that he would not be used to coaching the talented D-1 athletes at HC because he was coming from D-II Assumption. The second silliest bunch were from folks who apparently were unfamiliar with Johns Hopkins University (where Chesney once coached) who questioned whether he could coach athletes who have serious classroom commitments like they do at Holy Cross. I half expected somebody to suggest he couldn't coach the talented D-1 kickers because he was coming from D-II Assumption. Would make about as much sense, knowing of Cole Tracy, as the first two. Count me in the group that didn't know John Hopkins had a football team. Nobody made any comments about kicking, because kickers aren't football players. haha |
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Post by bfoley82 on Jan 5, 2020 20:27:07 GMT -5
Among the silliest crossporter comments about Chesney during his hiring process was that he would not be used to coaching the talented D-1 athletes at HC because he was coming from D-II Assumption. The second silliest bunch were from folks who apparently were unfamiliar with Johns Hopkins University (where Chesney once coached) who questioned whether he could coach athletes who have serious classroom commitments like they do at Holy Cross. I half expected somebody to suggest he couldn't coach the talented D-1 kickers because he was coming from D-II Assumption. Would make about as much sense, knowing of Cole Tracy, as the first two. Count me in the group that didn't know John Hopkins had a football team. Nobody made any comments about kicking, because kickers aren't football players. haha They are actually pretty good also...they have won 13 conference titles since 2002 and ten straight through 2018. This year, they did not win the conference though. |
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Post by hcpride on Jan 5, 2020 20:38:08 GMT -5
/\ /\ “Bob Chesney’s incredible success as a head football coach comes as no surprise to Johns Hopkins fans, as he had a powerful and long-lasting impact on our football program. He will bring energy, enthusiasm and a keen football mind to Holy Cross. He and his family will be a great addition to the Holy Cross community.” – Johns Hopkins head coach Jim Margraff patriotleague.org/news/2017/12/14/holy-cross-names-bob-chesney-head-football-coach.aspx(I think 4crusadersader3 means he did not know Chesney coached football at Johns Hopkins and he did not know Johns Hopkins had a football team. I am not at all sure if all Hopkins grads know HC has a football team but that is neither here nor there.) |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2020 21:35:41 GMT -5
/\ /\ “Bob Chesney’s incredible success as a head football coach comes as no surprise to Johns Hopkins fans, as he had a powerful and long-lasting impact on our football program. He will bring energy, enthusiasm and a keen football mind to Holy Cross. He and his family will be a great addition to the Holy Cross community.” – Johns Hopkins head coach Jim Margraff patriotleague.org/news/2017/12/14/holy-cross-names-bob-chesney-head-football-coach.aspx(I think 4crusadersader3 means he did not know Chesney coached football at Johns Hopkins and he did not know Johns Hopkins had a football team. I am not at all sure if all Hopkins grads know HC has a football team but that is neither here nor there.) I would bet most graduates of John Hopkins don't know they have a football team. haha Be tough to attend a game against an all girls school (Randolph Macon) followed by the Gettysburg Bullets. hahahaha |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2020 21:40:48 GMT -5
Almost forgot the McDaniel Green Terror
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jan 6, 2020 6:42:24 GMT -5
Say what you will about JHU, HC can't boast about being an associate member of the B10. I wonder how much broadcast revenue JHU receives for being a member (M/W lacrosse). The only other associate member of the B10 is a school in South Bend.
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Post by hcpride on Jan 6, 2020 8:35:04 GMT -5
/\ As one of the nation's top academic schools there is no doubt about the priorities at JHU and other places like MIT, U Chicago, etc. That is why comments regarding Chesney and potential ignorance regarding demands on student athletes at academic schools (in the context of his move from Assumption to HC) were particularly laughable two years ago. I guess those folks did not know of his long time at JHU or somehow did not know he was coaching football while he was there or somehow did not know of JHU's academic reputation..
Lax is a widely-known and interesting exception in their otherwise D-III program.
(As far as general student interest in football at HC v general student interest in football at JHU, FWIW, I'll leave that for 4crusader3 to judge.)
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Post by wayback on Jan 6, 2020 11:19:10 GMT -5
My grandson is a football player at Dickinson College which is in the Centennial Conference with Johns Hopkins. I have been to some of their games which are in much smaller stadiums but have reasonable attendance and good tailgate parties. It is the typical small college atmosphere. By the way his older brother was a football player at Holy Cross but he felt going to a smaller program will give him more playing time earlier in his career and it has worked as he has gotten recognition as an all league stand out. In general the players are smaller than in Division ! but the quality of play is quite high, don't underestimate them.
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 6, 2020 11:28:22 GMT -5
Considering Coach Bob Chesney played for Dickinson, I don't think you will find anyone here poo-pooing that team. Sounds like a good choice for your grandson.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2020 11:43:37 GMT -5
Personally, I would rather walk on at an FBS program than play Div III ball. What's the point in 2019? There is SO much opportunity in the FBS and FCS that wasn't there 20 years ago. If that doesn't work out, you have Div II.
Being All League in Div III is about the same as playing at competitive high school programs (unless you're playing teams competing for the D-III National Championship aka Mt Union).
Regardless, congratulations to your grandson for wanting to continue to play. If he's happy with his choice, that is all that matters.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jan 6, 2020 12:02:10 GMT -5
My grandson is a football player at Dickinson College which is in the Centennial Conference with Johns Hopkins. I have been to some of their games which are in much smaller stadiums but have reasonable attendance and good tailgate parties. It is the typical small college atmosphere. By the way his older brother was a football player at Holy Cross but he felt going to a smaller program will give him more playing time earlier in his career and it has worked as he has gotten recognition as an all league stand out. In general the players are smaller than in Division ! but the quality of play is quite high, don't underestimate them. One of my best friends was an All American running back at Gettysburg, another Centennial Conference team. He was good enough to go training camp with the Dolphins and got some yardage in a pre season game. He didn't make the final cut but proved he was a pretty good player against NFL veterans. Your grandson is no doubt coming up against some good athletes. |
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Post by moose1970 on Jan 6, 2020 12:30:06 GMT -5
Personally, I would rather walk on at an FBS program than play Div III ball. What's the point in 2019? There is SO much opportunity in the FBS and FCS that wasn't there 20 years ago. If that doesn't work out, you have Div II. Being All League in Div III is about the same as playing at competitive high school programs (unless you're playing teams competing for the D-III National Championship aka Mt Union). Regardless, congratulations to your grandson for wanting to continue to play. If he's happy with his choice, that is all that matters.
(or any other year) its called playing football for the love of the game of football. Being All League in Div III is about the same as playing at competitive high school programs if this is true, so what? Personally, I would rather walk on at an FBS program than play Div III ball.i heard that many FBS football programs do not even allow tryouts for walk ons because they do not have the time to evaluate them and/or space on the team that is all scholarship players. if a high school player wants to play FBS football and does not get any FBS offers he can go the j.c. route, prove his worth, and get picked up by an FBS program. |
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Post by purplenurple on Jan 7, 2020 10:00:19 GMT -5
Personally, I would rather walk on at an FBS program than play Div III ball. What's the point in 2019? There is SO much opportunity in the FBS and FCS that wasn't there 20 years ago. If that doesn't work out, you have Div II. Being All League in Div III is about the same as playing at competitive high school programs (unless you're playing teams competing for the D-III National Championship aka Mt Union). Regardless, congratulations to your grandson for wanting to continue to play. If he's happy with his choice, that is all that matters.
(or any other year) its called playing football for the love of the game of football. Being All League in Div III is about the same as playing at competitive high school programs if this is true, so what? Personally, I would rather walk on at an FBS program than play Div III ball.i heard that many FBS football programs do not even allow tryouts for walk ons because they do not have the time to evaluate them and/or space on the team that is all scholarship players. if a high school player wants to play FBS football and does not get any FBS offers he can go the j.c. route, prove his worth, and get picked up by an FBS program. In Div. III you find many excellent academic schools, like those in the NESCAC and the Centennial Conference (Amherst, Williams, Swarthmore, Haverford, Hopkins, etc.) where playing football may bolster your admission prospects while continuing your passion for a sport, and being part of something bigger than yourself (a team). |
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 7, 2020 10:13:52 GMT -5
We are hardly Alabama, Clemson or Ohio State in football for us to be in a position to look our noses down at D-II our D-III teams. That's why I never got the "how could Chesney ever succeed at Holy Cross" theme of some posters.
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