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Post by sader1970 on Jan 13, 2020 16:49:03 GMT -5
I somehow got on Brown’s athletic mailing list.
We “complain” (discuss?) often here about how many sports Holy Cross sponsors. And yet . . . . no squash!!??
From Brown, their Student Athletes of the Week”:
PROVIDENCE, R.I. – Women's squash senior Hannah Seckendorf and men's track & field junior sprinter Bretram Rogers have earned Brown University Athletics Student-Athlete of the Week honors for the week of Jan. 6-12, Brown announced on Monday.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jan 13, 2020 17:25:03 GMT -5
The Hart did have courts. Maybe, it still does. In the construction plans for Luth, it was hard to tell what happened to the courts. IIRC, they were under where new sports medicine is now.. I did not see any reference to their being demolished in the demolition notes for the general contractor.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Jan 13, 2020 20:30:48 GMT -5
What NCAA / Varsity ingercollegiate sports DON'T we have?
I'll start the list
Squash Sailing Archery Water Polo Wrestling Bowling Skiing Beach Volleyball Rifle/Biathlon Rugby Sprint Football
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jan 13, 2020 20:39:07 GMT -5
Fencing Judo
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Post by HC16 on Jan 13, 2020 20:54:24 GMT -5
What NCAA / Varsity ingercollegiate sports DON'T we have? I'll start the list Squash Sailing Archery Water Polo Wrestling Bowling Skiing Beach Volleyball Rifle/Biathlon Rugby Sprint Football Men's Rugby isn't an NCAA sport. As I understand from a bunch of friends on the rugby team, we compete at the highest level possible.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Jan 13, 2020 21:06:48 GMT -5
I am pretty sure that the 4 or 5 squash and racketball courts were at one point replaced for use by the Lacrosse and Soccer teams before the Luth construction. The space that contained the courts was converted to the Sports Medicine Suite with the Luth build. Too bad squash and racketball courts are not part of the new “Jo”. The previous courts in the Hart were recreational in design. They did not have a spectator and officiating platform in the center ring surrounded by courts. A first class Squash facility generally will have 8 or more courts for competition.
Can anyone confirm, but it seems as Squash is played as a non divisional NCAA sport. Competition is not divided by the traditional Div 1, Div 2, Div 3 ranking. Trinity College has a excellent program winning several national championships.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Jan 13, 2020 21:09:57 GMT -5
What NCAA / Varsity ingercollegiate sports DON'T we have? I'll start the list Squash Sailing Archery Water Polo Wrestling Bowling Skiing Beach Volleyball Rifle/Biathlon Rugby Sprint Football Men's Rugby isn't an NCAA sport. As I understand from a bunch of friends on the rugby team, we compete at the highest level possible. I believe there are still a handful of schools that play NCAA DI rugby. If I recall Cal Berkeley was always a top team. The Men's Club team has come a long way for sure since I was in school. The club was disbanded from roughly 2005-2010 but from what you're saying it must ne doing quite well now.
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Post by princetoncrusader on Jan 13, 2020 21:27:49 GMT -5
Squash is not an NCAA sport. Teams are part of the Collegiate Squash Association. The end of season CSA team championships rotate around the Northeast. The teams are divided into pools of ~ 6 teams i believe. While the sport was traditionally dominated by the Ivys, especially Princeton and Harvard, more recently some of the smaller schools like Rochester and St. Lawrence have stepped up. Trinity has been a power for about 20 years now. The secret has been the importation of international players. St. Lawrence played at Princeton back in December. I was astounded to see on the SLU roster 4-5 players from Egypt and 1 from Pune, India. That is quite a recruiting job to get players like that to come to the hinterlands of upstate NY. I got to know one of the assistant coaches for PU. He said some of these chaps are former pros who return to amateur status after a few years trying to make it on the pro circuit. It's a great sport that one can play into middle age. It would also be a great sport for HC to add given the low cost and proximity of other schools within a 90 minute drive. It would also be great for Title IX purposes. Sadly unless someone funds a building, that will never happen.
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Post by HC16 on Jan 13, 2020 21:31:28 GMT -5
Men's Rugby isn't an NCAA sport. As I understand from a bunch of friends on the rugby team, we compete at the highest level possible. I believe there are still a handful of schools that play NCAA DI rugby. If I recall Cal Berkeley was always a top team. The Men's Club team has come a long way for sure since I was in school. The club was disbanded from roughly 2005-2010 but from what you're saying it must ne doing quite well now. I just did a bit of research. It looks like we're D2 I rugby, but the sport is not run on the NCAA level and games are played across levels. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_rugbyI knew they played some Ivies when I was there and had 2 teams going all 4 years I was there (A and B side). This last spring they came in third the Jesuit Cup behind St. Joe's and Notre Dame (ahead of Santa Clara and BC). jesuitcup.com/2019-game-schedule.html
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Post by Crucis#1 on Jan 13, 2020 21:38:13 GMT -5
How did Notre Dame get into the Jesuit Cup? They are run by the Congregation of the Holy Cross, but..... they must be wannabes Jesuit.
Appropriate HC won the “Shield”. 😎 Hope “Shields” was there on the sidelines.🤣
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Jan 13, 2020 21:45:32 GMT -5
I just looked it up and there is no NCAA MENS rugby (NCAA women's exists) however there are several dozen schools who classify rugby as a VARSITY spott as opposed to club.
It is a very random list of schools which includes UC-Berkely, Army, SUNY Maritime, New England College, Paul Smith College and Lindenwood University.
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Post by hc87 on Jan 13, 2020 22:27:41 GMT -5
We had a club squash team in the 80s....played a few local teams....still have my HC Squash sweatshirt somewhere....lot of holes in it Great sport.
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 14, 2020 0:33:44 GMT -5
Gymnastics is always on the SEC channel, but I think that sport has a separate governing body, too.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jan 14, 2020 5:58:56 GMT -5
I believe fencing was a varsity sport before HC went coed. Holy Cross' sailing team is a member of the New England Intercollegiate Sailing Association. The college lists it as a club sport. neisa.collegesailing.org/Skiing is also a club sport. The college's most successful sport, if W-L percentage is the metric, is club baseball. I believe Crucis' recollection of what happened to the squash and racquetball courts is probably correct. I think the Luth contractor built a new floor for sports medicine, which is at the same level as the pool. (I think the floor for the squash courts was below the pool level.) Spectator seating for the pool exits onto an upper level corridor, which is next to upper level space above sports medicine. This upper level space is partly used for storage, but the majority of it is open, with probably a false ceiling above sports medicine. The lower level, which would probably be the old court level for squash is blocked off, other than what appears to be exit stairs to the outside.
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 14, 2020 9:05:39 GMT -5
Thanks Princeton, as I have always believed that the reason HC was not granted admission to the Ivy League was because we didn’t have a squash team. . . . . . . I’m kidding.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jan 14, 2020 10:19:40 GMT -5
We also had an equestrian team (likely club) at one point I believe
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Post by sarasota on Jan 16, 2020 2:23:52 GMT -5
Some years ago MIT had a ballroom dance team. There were intercollegiate competitions. Is that still happening?
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 16, 2020 5:53:19 GMT -5
An adult ballroom dancing group used to have dances/competitions at the Hogan Ballroom.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Jan 16, 2020 6:30:42 GMT -5
www.holycross.edu/departments/publicaffairs/hcm/2011_02Spring.pdfHoly Cross Magazine, Spring 2011, Ballroom Damcing. Extensive cover story regarding the Ballroom Dance Club at HC. Fun article to read. Several of the students who were enrolled back when the story appeared and featured in the story, I have now met at Holy Cross Alumni functions in the last couple of years.
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Post by bfoley82 on Jan 19, 2020 2:26:20 GMT -5
I just looked it up and there is no NCAA MENS rugby (NCAA women's exists) however there are several dozen schools who classify rugby as a VARSITY spott as opposed to club. It is a very random list of schools which includes UC-Berkely, Army, SUNY Maritime, New England College, Paul Smith College and Lindenwood University. Dartmouth, Harvard, Brown, Quinnipiac, AIC, West Chester, Notre Dame College (not the one you think of), Eastern Washington, and some others all have varsity women’s rugby programs. Anna Maria added the sport as a varsity team supposed to start in fall 2019 and there was never a schedule set.
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 19, 2020 8:07:45 GMT -5
Let's add varsity squash to compete with the Ivies!!! What other sports are "exportable" to squash? Tennis? We know football players (no, not futbol) often "export" to rugby. My late, great Classmate, Gary Brackett played center for the football team but I've been told that he was a much better rugby player.
Of course Jim Brown (OK, hoops, "Jimmy") was an equally great lacrosse player on Long Island (SU too?) as well as football.
C'mon, who's with me for petitioning Holy Cross to add squash? Makes as much sense as some other sports.
[For the more literal posters here, I am kidding. The whole thread was intended as a joke.]
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Jan 19, 2020 9:24:08 GMT -5
When Iona College cut football in 2009, their rugby team got a real nice shot in the arm for a couple years.
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 19, 2020 12:02:30 GMT -5
I wonder if Fairfield has a rugby team. They gave up football, I believe in my son’s junior year and one of his roommates was there on a football scholarship but still got the last year freebie.
P.S. They were devastated to lose to HC at Fitton as they were undefeated going into the game and Crusaders were mediocre at best. The Stags season fell apart after losing.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jan 19, 2020 12:52:56 GMT -5
By those who saw him play both sports, Jim Brown was supposedly a better lacrosse player than football player. Hearsay, but Fr. Reidy was apparently of that view, and its possible that HC lacrosse played a Syracuse team that featured Brown.
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Post by hc87 on Jan 19, 2020 13:28:56 GMT -5
Squash is actually the type of sport that really fits the PL profile/brand i.e. played very competitively at a lot of the prep schools that then send many to the PL schools. I'm kind of surprised it isn't a varsity sport in the PL.
Very few play today...it's mostly a "clubby" sport not played in many Y's, public courts.
Racquet sports (tennis, squash,racquetball etc) can be difficult to pick up later in life, but if you can or have, they are tremendous in that you can play somewhat decently until one leaves this mortal coil.
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