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Post by hcpride on Jan 26, 2020 10:21:30 GMT -5
HC is going with an ED II for the first time this year. (Binding, like ED I but with the same admissions deadline as RD)
Kids rejected ED (or REA) at their first choice can turn around and apply ED II at their second choice. Gives the second school a shot at an ED kid (often a full-payer) and gives the kid a better admissions chance than RD.
Beyond the obvious financial advantages to the school of ED, it is well known that increased ED admissions greatly benefit statistics such as selectivity and yield.
(This is not to necessarily suggest HC will take more ED kids this year than last year.)
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 26, 2020 18:15:55 GMT -5
There's a special place in heaven for full payers. They keep Holy Cross available for everyone else and gain no special privileges or recognition such as first class seating on an airline.
Not saying they should receive special treatment, but am saying thank you.
Actually thank you to all families who send their kids to HC. Students/families who graduate with six figures of debt also make quite a commitment.
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 26, 2020 18:24:15 GMT -5
For some of us, the debt was only 5 figures but a dollar was worth a dollar then.   |
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Post by timholycross on Jan 27, 2020 14:39:09 GMT -5
ED means something else if you're my age!
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 28, 2020 8:11:26 GMT -5
LOL |
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Post by hcpride on Jan 28, 2020 8:58:34 GMT -5
/\ I was thinking TMI, but LOL will do.
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 28, 2020 9:07:44 GMT -5
OK...LMAO |
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Post by sarasota on Feb 2, 2020 16:57:15 GMT -5
Having to pay $280,000. for 28 months of education, which includes the cost of landscaping, coffee shops, salad bars, nice apartments, heat, hot water, air conditioning, sports and.....instruction, and access to Government subsidized loans, reeks of elitism. There are other ways to obtain an excellent education. (I am not a Socialist. I am a Libertarian.)
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Post by hc6774 on Feb 23, 2020 10:15:21 GMT -5
Having to pay $280,000. for 28 months of education, which includes the cost of landscaping, coffee shops, salad bars, nice apartments, heat, hot water, air conditioning, sports and.....instruction, and access to Government subsidized loans, reeks of elitism. There are other ways to obtain an excellent education. (I am not a Socialist. I am a Libertarian.) Is this an argument to return to the monastery model?  Update tuition & fees now $ $73.3k... nice apartments are at a premium, but the old monastery accommodations are available in abundance |
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 23, 2020 10:31:48 GMT -5
$280,000 for 28 months of instruction in the internet age. Does something have to give?
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Post by sarasota on Feb 23, 2020 12:36:25 GMT -5
Having to pay $280,000. for 28 months of education, which includes the cost of landscaping, coffee shops, salad bars, nice apartments, heat, hot water, air conditioning, sports and.....instruction, and access to Government subsidized loans, reeks of elitism. There are other ways to obtain an excellent education. (I am not a Socialist. I am a Libertarian.) Is this an argument to return to the monastery model? Update tuition & fees now $ $73.3k... nice apartments are at a premium, but the old monastery accommodations are available in abundance It's just that when you step back.....it's more like a country club. I have to think the $$$ spent on the accoutrements might better have been spent on lab equipment, faculty salaries, visiting speakers, you know, things that have actually to do with.....EDUCATION. |
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Feb 23, 2020 12:56:24 GMT -5
When contemplating which restaurant to visit for a meal, do you consider only the food & beverage or do you also think about ambience, service, location, parking, etc?
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Post by hc6774 on Feb 23, 2020 13:00:26 GMT -5
Is this an argument to return to the monastery model? Update tuition & fees now $ $73.3k... nice apartments are at a premium, but the old monastery accommodations are available in abundance It's just that when you step back.....it's more like a country club. I have to think the $$$ spent on the accoutrements might better have been spent on lab equipment, faculty salaries, visiting speakers, you know, things that have actually to do with.....EDUCATION. like in our day, the institution is meeting the students & parents where they are... and I think the education is better although spoon fed. my grandson is a reluctant applicant; he is skeptical about the religion part of it... I tell him not to worry, that he's more than brainy enough to deal with it... but not sure that is persuasive... his mother is scared of the cost. |
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 23, 2020 13:20:58 GMT -5
When contemplating which restaurant to visit for a meal, do you consider only the food & beverage or do you also think about ambience, service, location, parking, etc? Depends on who is paying😊 but your point is valid. You can't get by without a gluten free or soy free section in the dining hall today. In our day people with food allergies suffered in silence I guess. |
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Feb 23, 2020 13:30:46 GMT -5
Yes, competition is great with consumer products and services and with colleges as well--the consumer ends up with better choices (often at a better price in an open market)
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Post by CHC8485 on Feb 23, 2020 13:42:31 GMT -5
It's just that when you step back.....it's more like a country club. I have to think the $$$ spent on the accoutrements might better have been spent on lab equipment, faculty salaries, visiting speakers, you know, things that have actually to do with.....EDUCATION. like in our day, the institution is meeting the students & parents where they are... and I think the education is better although spoon fed. my grandson is a reluctant applicant; he is skeptical about the religion part of it... I tell him not to worry, that he's more than brainy enough to deal with it... but not sure that is persuasive... his mother is scared of the cost. You can tell your grandson the religion part of it will be as much or as little of his HC experience as he'd like it to be. Outside of a required religion class - that may not have anything to do with Catholicism - there is nothing that requires him to engage anything religious. And tell his mother that the financial aid is pretty generous. There are two financial aid calculator here. www.holycross.edu/financial-aid/financial-aid-calculatorI can tell you from 7 years experience over 2 kids ... The first one (very quick) get's you pretty close to what aid he might expect. The second one (that requires a bit more detailed financial information) is pretty much dead on the overall aid estimate. In my case, the scholarship estimate was a bit lower than my kids actually received and loans a bit more than they actually had to take. |
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Post by sarasota on Feb 23, 2020 13:57:34 GMT -5
I'm not so stupid or naive to not know how HC got to where it is re lifestyle. I'm just bemoaning how things are now.
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 23, 2020 19:39:41 GMT -5
I'm not so stupid or naive to not know how HC got to where it is re lifestyle. I'm just bemoaning how things are now. My guess: Back in the day, sending a Catholic kid to be educated by the Jesuits was a large part of the decision to attend HC and most kids came from middle class ethnic families so the price had to be affordable. Now there aren't many Jesuits left and the importance of the Catholic Church in people's lives has waned so kids must be wooed with Suite living as opposed to monastery style. |
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Post by rgs318 on Feb 23, 2020 19:57:26 GMT -5
Are you saying they no longer sleep in navy surplus bunk beds?
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Post by CHC8485 on Feb 23, 2020 20:25:42 GMT -5
The frame is better, but the mattress is basically the same as it was. |
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Post by sarasota on Feb 23, 2020 21:05:52 GMT -5
My Frosh yr in Wheeler337 we had four guys in a small room, drudged through snow to Mass every morning, community toilets and showers, ate family style in Kimball, no carpets, no telephones, no TVs, no cars, no girls, etc. Yet the four of us received fine educations and we went on to have successful professional lives, good families, tax paying productive members of Society. No country club expectations. We knew academics would be challenging and we would have to work hard to achieve our goals. Just sayin...
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Post by CHC8485 on Feb 23, 2020 21:54:27 GMT -5
It’s. 60+ years since you moved into Wheeler and other than women, phones, TV, Kimball serving cafeteria style, WiFi access, required daily Mass and two or three (instead of 4) per room, the Freshmen that moved into Wheeler this past August understand your experience, including the great education.
In 60 years, lifechanges, unless you’re going to tell us you’re still living with 4 guys, have no phone, TV, carpet and are going to Mass each day. And what was the Class of 1903 saying about your accommodations in 1959? Just sayin’ ...
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Post by sader1970 on Feb 24, 2020 6:40:51 GMT -5
My brother-in-law, class of 1960, said when he was a senior, the freshmen were a bunch of pampered wimps.
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Post by sarasota on Feb 24, 2020 11:08:20 GMT -5
My brother-in-law, class of 1960, said when he was a senior, the freshmen were a bunch of pampered wimps. |
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Post by rgs318 on Feb 24, 2020 12:18:40 GMT -5
My brother-in-law, class of 1960, said when he was a senior, the freshmen were a bunch of pampered wimps. Probably. As one of them, I am not objective. I now to go to daily Mass - now voluntarily not as a mandatory exercise. Was your brother one of those we could pay to check us in and to sit in our seats? |
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