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Post by trimster on Mar 31, 2020 6:38:22 GMT -5
Louth Coulibaly picked up an offer tonight from UMKC.
UMKC had also recently expressed interest in Elias King.
Maybe their coach reads Crossports. |
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Post by HC92 on Apr 2, 2020 12:54:25 GMT -5
jay rod🖤 @jayrodgers33 · 2h Commitment soon 👀🤷🏽♂️ wonder if he has been able to do more than a virtual visit to a school, and if he is being deadlined will guess he picks EMichigan as the offer seemed to get his best response and he is from Ohio—his teammates Towns going to Ohio which might mean nothing and at this point we might have pulled our offer Interesting that Rodgers has not yet committed. Wonder if he was planning on accepting HC’s offer and Bo beat him to it. Have to assume we’re looking primarily, if not exclusively, at bigs at this point if we have any room left at the inn. |
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Post by WorcesterGray on Apr 2, 2020 13:15:18 GMT -5
Eastern Michigan and Quinnipiac - each of whom offered Rodgers about the same time as Holy Cross did - picked up commitments from PGs in the last ten days or so. His other offers listed on VC are Marist and the Mount.
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Post by HC92 on Apr 2, 2020 13:50:16 GMT -5
Could be a classic example of waiting for something better than what you have and then having nothing. Seems like that’s what happened to Elias King last year. Knowing when to hold ‘em and when to fold ‘em is important.
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Post by timholycross on Apr 2, 2020 14:44:00 GMT -5
UMKC is going to the Summit league, has been in the WAC for a while which made no sense.
Chicago State is contemplating getting out of D1, getting an offer from them is a two-edged sword for sure.
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Post by WorcesterGray on Apr 2, 2020 14:50:43 GMT -5
UMKC just got a commitment from 6-9, 220 PF Jonathan Bolden. They may have passed on Coulibaly, or he may have passed on them.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Apr 2, 2020 19:01:05 GMT -5
We can’t have Chicago State, UMKC, and Appalachian State be our peers in recruiting.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Apr 2, 2020 19:20:20 GMT -5
Chicago state - I agree, but not on Mizzou-KC and App State.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Apr 2, 2020 20:17:54 GMT -5
We can’t have Chicago State, UMKC, and Appalachian State be our peers in recruiting. Yeah, because there’s a huge list of players who could get into HC who are still available at this point in the recruiting. Especially big guys — good ones grow on trees these days! If we’re recruiting against those guys for a full cycle in Year 2-3 and beyond, that’s a problem. At this point, we have to trust that Nelson and RJ can identify some under-the-radar players and develop them when they get to campus. |
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Apr 2, 2020 20:31:37 GMT -5
Are the other coaches involved or just RJ and Nelson?
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 2, 2020 21:13:38 GMT -5
Are the other coaches involved or just RJ and Nelson? Your question prompted me to read the coaches biographies. I hadn't noticed that Coach Kennedy has an unusual background of navigating from Politics and Government to coaching. Some coaches move into politics like Tom Osborne in Nebraska or the current Senate candidate in Alabama, but not many go the other route. Reading between the lines of each biography you can see that RJ is the defacto recruiting coordinator. Or not. Coach Nelson hasn't given out an official promotion to Associate Head Coach or recruiting coordinator, which is completely appropriate after a 3-29 season. |
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Post by bringbackcaro on Apr 2, 2020 22:02:31 GMT -5
Are the other coaches involved or just RJ and Nelson? As longsuffering noted, in reading between the lines, it's pretty clear that RJ is leading recruiting operation. Sam Ferry was a later addition to the staff and his recruiting activity on Twitter is basically non-existent (for comparison, take a peak at RJ the HC football staff on Twitter) And I'm not really sure why Kennedy is still on the staff. I believe he was the "Recruiting Coordinator" under Carmody -- a recruiting operation that was an abject disaster. And as others have noted, if the intention was to have him bridge relationships with legacy players following Nelson's arrival, we've all seen how that played out. Virtually all of his coaching and playing experience was with Carmody, a system and style that shares virtually no commonality with what Nelson appears to be building at HC. |
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Post by HC92 on Apr 2, 2020 22:11:37 GMT -5
Nelson seems like a guy who is pretty clear as to what he wants. If Kennedy wasn’t adding value, Nelson wouldn’t keep him. Because he’s still here, I’m assuming he is adding value in Nelson’s mind.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Apr 2, 2020 22:15:56 GMT -5
Nelson seems like a guy who is pretty clear as to what he wants. If Kennedy wasn’t adding value, Nelson wouldn’t keep him. Because he’s still here, I’m assuming he is adding value in Nelson’s mind. Or maybe he's just too connected between his father being a former CBB head coach and also working for Obama. By my quick calculation, he's been on a staff for 10 seasons. All of the last 8 seasons have been at or below .500. |
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Post by HC92 on Apr 2, 2020 22:24:51 GMT -5
Occam’s razor.
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 2, 2020 22:41:23 GMT -5
The law of parsimony. I'm more of a Rube Goldberg type.🙂
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 2, 2020 22:58:08 GMT -5
Nelson seems like a guy who is pretty clear as to what he wants. If Kennedy wasn’t adding value, Nelson wouldn’t keep him. Because he’s still here, I’m assuming he is adding value in Nelson’s mind. Or maybe he's just too connected between his father being a former CBB head coach and also working for Obama. By my quick calculation, he's been on a staff for 10 seasons. All of the last 8 seasons have been at or below .500. His best winning team was the 2008 Obama campaign. Maybe he will hook on with Biden. It's a tough environment right now with both the NBA and College BB inactive and no guarantee when they can play again. Colleges will face a decision about renewing assistant coaching contracts for June 30th if there is no more visibility about next season or next school year then than there is now. |
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Post by Tom on Apr 3, 2020 8:02:56 GMT -5
Nelson seems like a guy who is pretty clear as to what he wants. If Kennedy wasn’t adding value, Nelson wouldn’t keep him. Because he’s still here, I’m assuming he is adding value in Nelson’s mind. I agree with the first two sentences. Assuming Coach Kennedy is here in September, I will agree with the third. Making no judgement about Coach Kennedy, but simply playing devil's advocate, if (and right now this is a huge if) Coach Nelson was not satisfied with Coach Kennedy's job performance, would Coach Nelson have made a change during the season or wait until the summer? In all fairness, IF Coach Kennedy is not with the team next year, we will likely never know if the departure was Coach Nelson's idea, Coach Kennedy's idea, or a mutual decision |
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Post by timholycross on Apr 3, 2020 11:01:58 GMT -5
...Any decision like that by necessity will probably be delayed until the end of the 2020-21 season.
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Post by HC92 on Apr 3, 2020 16:41:59 GMT -5
Guess this answers my question about whether Rodgers misplayed his hand.
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Post by hchoops on Apr 3, 2020 17:19:47 GMT -5
Sort of strange that we expressed an interest in a JC guard seemingly after we received the commit from Bo, yet it looks as if we passed on Jay.
But we only know the timing of this information based on social media, which may be reliable, or not.
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Post by HC92 on Apr 3, 2020 17:45:12 GMT -5
Sort of strange that we expressed an interest in a JC guard seemingly after we received the commit from Bo, yet it looks as if we passed on Jay. But we only know the timing of this information based on social media, which may be reliable, or not. Guessing we withdrew any open guard offers and stopped expressing interest in any other guards as soon as Bo committed. If we have a spot left, has to be a big. |
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Post by WorcesterGray on Apr 3, 2020 18:05:23 GMT -5
Marist seemed the most likely destination for him this week, but they just offered another PG, too.
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Post by efg72 on Apr 3, 2020 18:47:55 GMT -5
Sort of strange that we expressed an interest in a JC guard seemingly after we received the commit from Bo, yet it looks as if we passed on Jay. But we only know the timing of this information based on social media, which may be reliable, or not. If he is available I would take him because based on nothing I think we have 2 left |
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Apr 4, 2020 7:16:08 GMT -5
I'd be a little surprised if a kid wanted to come in to play the point when there was already another kid in the same class. Then again, the 4 year commitment thing is becoming less common every day now.
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