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Post by rgs318 on Feb 21, 2020 16:47:35 GMT -5
...also "men and women for others" seems to use a binary gender model that offends some.
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 21, 2020 16:54:53 GMT -5
apparently not even fruits and vegetables are safe spaces anymore. an intellectual lightweight of some notoriety recently proclaimed cauliflower to be racist. "Virtue signaling" has become a competition among a certain set of people. Whatever issue or item arises, such as the vegetable you cite, there is a rush to see who can be the first to explain why it is racist, bigoted, homophobic, elitist, sexist, etc. Here's an example. The penny is a burden on our society as it costs more than one cent to mint one and, unlike when the corner grocer had a penny candy jar when I was a child, you can no longer buy anything with a penny. Without a penny, retailers would just round up or down to the nearest nickel for transactions. I recall a movement several years ago to get rid of the penny and it was opposed by a group who stated that rounding up or down would have a negative effect on lower economic groups. Insanity. Logic would tell you that unless that group had a tremendous number of 3 cent or 8 cent or 13 cent transactions, rounding up and rounding down would cancel out over the ,long run. I understand that the penny is going away in 2022--wait to see the controversy arise again. I'm going to keep a few pennies aside to put in the fuse box when needed.
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Post by rgs318 on Feb 21, 2020 17:20:34 GMT -5
What's a fuse? I remember my clients in Paterson telling me some the stories about pennies: 1. They were "brown" (OK, copper) because Lincoln freed the slaves - all the other coins were gray. 2. All the Presidents looked their right while Lincoln looked left (the only one to do so...similar to having Black History Month in the shortest of all months.). 3. The penny was worth less than any other coin. The list is longer, but the reason for these points is interesting. They told me that all of this was done because Lincoln freed the slaves. Ever hear any of these?
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Post by hcpride on Feb 21, 2020 18:49:20 GMT -5
/\ /\ The word ‘slaves’ itself is being phased out. The language PC/academic types are pushing the term ‘enslaved persons’. “ By changing from the use of a name – slaves – to an adjective – enslaved– we grant these individuals an identity as people and use a term to describe their position in society rather than reducing them to that position. In a small but important way, we carry them forward as people, not the property that they were in that time. This is not a minor thing, this change of language.”
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Post by timholycross on Feb 21, 2020 19:10:37 GMT -5
I'd like one of these dweebs to explain to me why "colored person" is no good (and it's been a long time since most people have used that term, don't advocate going back to it) and "person of color" is ok.
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Post by rgs318 on Feb 21, 2020 19:12:14 GMT -5
Controlling language and symbols is very powerful. It can be a good way to change culture and to start mind conditioning of a new order. Look at those who change language and the meaning of symbols and you find where power resides.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Feb 21, 2020 20:47:07 GMT -5
I'd like one of these dweebs to explain to me why "colored person" is no good (and it's been a long time since most people have used that term, don't advocate going back to it) and "person of color" is ok. Semantics and nuance is the difference. Using the term “colored person” was often used in a pejorative, by “polite” society vs other crude terms used by the common folk, know in a derogatory term as “the Hoi Polloi”, which in itself can also be considered offensive. The term “Colored” was used to define people of African origin who was seen as obsequious to Caucasians. Here is where nuance plays an important role. A “Person of Color” is inclusive of all non Caucasians. This would include indigenous Americans, and the heritage influenced by the Spanish, French, Portuguese, African. Also included would by people of Asian origin. Samuel I “SI” Hayakawa, noted Semanticist, Professor, College President and U.S Senator wrote a book called Language in Thought and Action. The book examines the relationship between language and racial and religious prejudice. For the record, I am not a “dweeb”, which is a person who is boring, or social inept, or a “nerd” or a “geek”. Just a fellow Alum trying to bring enlightenment and humor to the rabbit hole which is Crossports. 🤔
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Post by timholycross on Feb 21, 2020 21:58:51 GMT -5
No one said you were unless you were the person or persons making some of those crazy statements about pennies, etc. !
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Post by Crucis#1 on Feb 21, 2020 22:07:42 GMT -5
Not me. First I ever heard of this diatribe.
Someone must have been trying to kid RGS with a conspiracy tale of which there are a million.
Talk about going down a rabbit hole. 🤣
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Feb 21, 2020 22:35:26 GMT -5
Google “cauliflower racism” and you’ll see a plethora of stories on the subject from 2019.
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Post by joe on Feb 22, 2020 8:33:19 GMT -5
Our name is Holy Cross. If not a Crusader, our logo should be a big fat cross.
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Post by rgs318 on Feb 22, 2020 8:41:00 GMT -5
Not me. First I ever heard of this diatribe. Someone must have been trying to kid RGS with a conspiracy tale of which there are a million. Talk about going down a rabbit hole. 🤣 Nope. You had to hear some of the things these folks believed. All were paroles and almost all were recovering addicts. One of the most widespread was that AIDS was designed by a white scientist who worked for the CIA to extewrminate Blacks (no mention of gay men in that one). Fin doing a way to interact with them was a real challenge. These points (which one person here says are "crazy") are sen by them as "secret knowledge." They believed that learning all of this secret knowledge was a way to overthrow the rule over people of color by the White Race. They were not kidding. They were deadly serious. It was possible to reach some of then, but it took m quite a while.
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Post by WorcesterGray on Feb 22, 2020 8:41:51 GMT -5
Just a reminder . . .
Carry on.
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Post by Tom on Feb 22, 2020 9:03:31 GMT -5
Logic would tell you that unless that group had a tremendous number of 3 cent or 8 cent or 13 cent transactions, rounding up and rounding down would cancel out over the ,long run. I understand that the penny is going away in 2022--wait to see the controversy arise again. My guess is that there will be very little rounding down. Many items are currently priced at $XX.99. to trick consumers into thinking goods are less expensive (or according to Sears and Roebuck to cut down on employee theft). Today, there is a shrinking percentage of people buying goods with cash. People prefer to pay with plastic. I wonder if rounding will also apply to electronic transactions
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