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Post by thecrossisback on Feb 15, 2020 18:00:57 GMT -5
Ryan Wade 40 minutes 0-6 Reilly at least hit a three. Wade needs to get his confidence back. Feel for Pridgen and Faw playing hard. Clayton shoot when you are open.
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Post by possum on Feb 15, 2020 18:10:18 GMT -5
Yes Wade is playing with zero confidence, 148 points in 800 minutes of playing time hard to imagine there are many less productive players in the country. The increasing minutes seem to be having a negative effect on his play.
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Post by cfrivals on Feb 15, 2020 20:54:18 GMT -5
Doubt he plays more than 20 mins next year
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Post by rgs318 on Feb 15, 2020 21:07:51 GMT -5
Are you really writing off the next year of his development? Hopefully your doubts are misplaced. Remember the quote "The best thing about freshmen is that they become sophomores." ?
If HC has so much incoming talent that he gets 20 minutes a game and uses it well...OK. I doubt that will happen.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Feb 16, 2020 6:33:57 GMT -5
Has to be all between the ears with Ryan right now; feel bad for the kid. Basket has to look to be the size of a thimble for him right now.
With the extra bodies next year, I would think he would see fewer (grammar!) minutes....doesn't mean they can't be of much higher quality.
FWIW, as soon as the game ended, AB went over to him and patted him on the head.
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Post by efg72 on Feb 16, 2020 7:38:28 GMT -5
What few posters are taking into account is the fact as a freshman he draws the toughest backcourt defensive assignment every game. For forty minutes that doesn't change. That is enormous pressure of a young player who was not a natural man to man defender.
Since keeping out of foul trouble is required, defense is not a priority for the others. They get to think offense first and are ready to shoot or attack. That doesn’t appear to be the case for Wade. He is a natural shooter asked to defend first. Butler is asked to play point and he is more of a 2/3, ......BTW every player on this current team will benefit from a deeper more talented roster and 10-20% reduction of PT, especially if they are able to play the right position and know their role. You could do this for the rest of the roster as well, including our best athlete Pridgen.
Give the kid some credit, he works hard for 40 minutes, as he grows more comfortable with the college game and his body matures, shots will fall and you will see him go to the hole. Given the craziness of this season, including the departure of his cousin, Wade has made a nice contribution.
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Post by dadominate on Feb 16, 2020 8:48:42 GMT -5
What few posters are taking into account is the fact as a freshman he draws the toughest backcourt defensive assignment every game. For forty minutes that doesn't change. That is enormous pressure of a young player who was not a natural man to man defender. Since keeping out of foul trouble is required, defense is not a priority for the others. They get to think offense first and are ready to shoot or attack. That doesn’t appear to be the case for Wade. He is a natural shooter asked to defend first. Butler is asked to play point and he is more of a 2/3, ......BTW every player on this current team will benefit from a deeper more talented roster and 10-20% reduction of PT, especially if they are able to play the right position and know their role. You could do this for the rest of the roster as well, including our best athlete Pridgen. Give the kid some credit, he works hard for 40 minutes, as he grows more comfortable with the college game and his body matures, shots will fall and you will see him go to the hole. Given the craziness of this season, including the departure of his cousin, Wade has made a nice contribution. the big picture perspective of a coach... well-stated, efg!
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Post by trimster on Feb 16, 2020 8:51:04 GMT -5
Couple of thoughts. I am impressed by the numbers of fans at the games. I think when the wins come, hopefully next year, the crowds will grow and the Hart Center at the Luth Complex atop Mount St. James at the College of the Holy Cross will be a tough place to visit for opponents. Joe Pridgen has enormous hands which without a doubt, help him control the ball in traffic. Matt Faw has come a long, long way in his game. I remember a game last year where for some strange reason, he caught a pass on the low block with a defender on his hip. Matt couldn't have passed it back out to the wing any faster than he did. Looking to score on the block couldn't have been further from his mind. Now he looks to take it to the rim in the same situation. Nice work put in by Matt. Ryan Wades D has come a long way.
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Post by Tom on Feb 16, 2020 10:19:34 GMT -5
.BTW every player on this current team will benefit from a deeper more talented roster and 10-20% reduction of PT, especially if they are able to play the right position and know their role. You could do this for the rest of the roster as well, including our best athlete Pridgen. Besides the benefit of a little blow during games, the guys will also benefit from being pushed harder in practice every day
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Post by hchoops on Feb 16, 2020 10:24:15 GMT -5
Wonder if Nelson, RJ, Joe K have had to practice to give us 5 on 5 ? With the assistants recruiting and missing practices, Brett may have put on his playing kicks.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Feb 16, 2020 10:32:17 GMT -5
Couple of thoughts. I am impressed by the numbers of fans at the games. I think when the wins come, hopefully next year, the crowds will grow and the Hart Center at the Luth Complex atop Mount St. James at the College of the Holy Cross will be a tough place to visit for opponents. Joe Pridgen has enormous hands which without a doubt, help him control the ball in traffic. Matt Faw has come a long, long way in his game. I remember a game last year where for some strange reason, he caught a pass on the low block with a defender on his hip. Matt couldn't have passed it back out to the wing any faster than he did. Looking to score on the block couldn't have been further from his mind. Now he looks to take it to the rim in the same situation. Nice work put in by Matt. Ryan Wades D has come a long way. Matt's game has changed a lot and I like the example you cite. Here's proof of the change in his stats 3-Point Attempts LY= 7.5 3-Point attempts per 40 minutes TY= 6.1 3-Point attempts per 40 minutes-- not really a big change 2-Point Attempts LY= 4.6 2-Point attempts/40 TY= 8.4 2-Point attempts/40= there's the big change. He's in the paint more. We've seen the left handed hook a few times and some "Pridgen like" drives to the basket Free Throw Attempts LY= 1.8 free throw shots per 40. That's very low for a big man TY= 4.1 free throw attempts/40. Still low, but no doubt the increased work in close is getting him fouled more than twice as often Note also that Matt is not forcing shots as his 2 point FG percentage has gone from .493 LY to .573 TY. The end result is that his scoring has increased from 13.9 pts/40 to 18.2 pts/40
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Post by dadominate on Feb 16, 2020 10:34:29 GMT -5
Wonder if Nelson, RJ, Joe K have had to practice to give us 5 on 5 ? With the assistants recruiting and missing practices, Brett may have put on his playing kicks. is there still a jv team? some were called up for practice in 1999-2000. i believe some football players who were good basketball players in high school has been another strategy.
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Post by possum on Feb 16, 2020 10:41:53 GMT -5
When you have to talk about a player's defensive improvement as the positive aspect of his game you're truly searching for something nice to say. Yesterday he "held" Stephens to 18 while going scoreless, being the second best defender on one of if not the worst defensive team in the country is not much of an accomplishment. To suggest that his shooting woes are caused by having to guard the other teams best scorer is weak. He came in with the reputation of being a sniper so far he has not come close to being that type player. He's not a rebounder and to put it mildly he struggles with the ball. Basically he's been a non entity on the offensive side of the ball. Hopefully he'll improve but for those who seem to be convinced he's part of the answer the evidence just isn't there to support that contention.
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Post by hchoops on Feb 16, 2020 10:42:32 GMT -5
No j v Wonder how Chesney would feel about that ?
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Post by cmo on Feb 16, 2020 10:44:53 GMT -5
He wouldn’t allow it, but maybe seniors from this year’s team?
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Feb 16, 2020 10:45:52 GMT -5
All Wade has really shown he’s either been able to do, has any interest in doing, or being instructed to do is camp out behind the three point line and fire away.
With how the game is played these days and the value that is placed on the three point shot, this isn’t necessarily a bad thing. There are plenty of guys out there whose primary role is to knock down threes.
Wade needs to get close to 40% if this is going to be his game and role.
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Post by hchoops on Feb 16, 2020 10:48:04 GMT -5
Couple of thoughts. I am impressed by the numbers of fans at the games. I think when the wins come, hopefully next year, the crowds will grow and the Hart Center at the Luth Complex atop Mount St. James at the College of the Holy Cross will be a tough place to visit for opponents. Joe Pridgen has enormous hands which without a doubt, help him control the ball in traffic. Matt Faw has come a long, long way in his game. I remember a game last year where for some strange reason, he caught a pass on the low block with a defender on his hip. Matt couldn't have passed it back out to the wing any faster than he did. Looking to score on the block couldn't have been further from his mind. Now he looks to take it to the rim in the same situation. Nice work put in by Matt. Ryan Wades D has come a long way. Matt's game has changed a lot and I like the example you cite. Here's proof of the change in his stats 3-Point Attempts LY= 7.5 3-Point attempts per 40 minutes TY= 6.1 3-Point attempts per 40 minutes-- not really a big change 2-Point Attempts LY= 4.6 2-Point attempts/40 TY= 8.4 2-Point attempts/40= there's the big change. He's in the paint more. We've seen the left handed hook a few times and some "Pridgen like" drives to the basket Free Throw Attempts LY= 1.8 free throw shots per 40. That's very low for a big man TY= 4.1 free throw attempts/40. Still low, but no doubt the increased work in close is getting him fouled more than twice as often Note also that Matt is not forcing shots as his 2 point FG percentage has gone from .493 LY to .573 TY. The end result is that his scoring has increased from 13.9 pts/40 to 18.2 pts/40 Thanks, Ky But Matt’s fouls that keep him on the bench are still very troubling. Thus those per 40 stats are not as significant. His MPG should be much higher. His overall D has improved little. And though his FTA are up, his FT% is worse than Joe’s.
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Post by dadominate on Feb 16, 2020 11:58:00 GMT -5
He wouldn’t allow it, but maybe seniors from this year’s team? yes, i think it was a few seniors in the past. brian hopkins ‘98 was also brought into the fold despite being one of the better players on the football team and became a contributor in hoops. not saying it will happen again now, but i have no doubt there are some football players who would be willing and able.
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Post by WorcesterGray on Feb 16, 2020 12:00:29 GMT -5
During the open practice pre-season, with a handful of players unable to perform, RJ played.
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Post by hchoops on Feb 16, 2020 12:00:59 GMT -5
Derrick Mt ?
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Post by HC92 on Feb 16, 2020 12:16:36 GMT -5
What few posters are taking into account is the fact as a freshman he draws the toughest backcourt defensive assignment every game. For forty minutes that doesn't change. That is enormous pressure of a young player who was not a natural man to man defender. Since keeping out of foul trouble is required, defense is not a priority for the others. They get to think offense first and are ready to shoot or attack. That doesn’t appear to be the case for Wade. He is a natural shooter asked to defend first. Butler is asked to play point and he is more of a 2/3, ......BTW every player on this current team will benefit from a deeper more talented roster and 10-20% reduction of PT, especially if they are able to play the right position and know their role. You could do this for the rest of the roster as well, including our best athlete Pridgen. Give the kid some credit, he works hard for 40 minutes, as he grows more comfortable with the college game and his body matures, shots will fall and you will see him go to the hole. Given the craziness of this season, including the departure of his cousin, Wade has made a nice contribution. Amen. I have a ton of respect for the kid and give him a lot of credit for all of the reasons you have included. Again, Frosh are playing the entire game out of necessity and all players are being asked to do things not in their comfort zone. I give Wade and the others on the remaining team a ton of credit.
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Post by trimster on Feb 16, 2020 12:34:16 GMT -5
Somebody has to score the points. I like Pridgen a lot, but you always have to keep that in mind. First time I gave up on a HC men's game and watched the ladies. I would have thought the only way I'd ever do that would be if I had a relative on the team. Just awful. Not laying blame on the current staff and AD but right now, HC is a real drag on the Patriot League's RPI or whatever it is called. Who would have thought.
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Post by WorcesterGray on Feb 16, 2020 14:54:59 GMT -5
Way too soon to be writing Wade off. We've had a few guys in the recent past - Cullen Hamilton, Jordan Stevens, and Greg Kinsey, e.g. - who posted similarly poor offensive numbers as freshmen, and went on to have serviceable careers. Wade's had to log significantly more minutes than most first-year guys, and may be hitting the wall.
He's a coach's kid, so I think he's smart enough and dedicated enough to figure out some things he needs to do in the off-season to improve. Definitely needs to get stronger and develop an attack mentality. He may not become a star, but believe he'll be an important piece of the puzzle over the next three seasons.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Feb 16, 2020 15:08:36 GMT -5
+1
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Feb 16, 2020 15:47:07 GMT -5
Let’s not forget how players can benefit from weight lifting and conditioning between frosh and sophomore seasons. I’m sure RW did some before enrolling but maybe not as much.
I think RW has a good looking shot— not writing him off as a shooter yet. Check MA’s improvement as a sophomore
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