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Post by Sons of Vaval on Feb 17, 2020 16:44:46 GMT -5
In KHam's defense, that total is from his freshman season. He improved in just about every way by the end of the season and certainly as a sophomore. As a soph he shot .387 on threes and that was his highest percentage. For his career he was a not bad .347 on threes. For perspective that number for a team would place it right about #100 among D-1 teams. Not until he was a senior did KHam take more twos than threes. His 2 point percentage was a sub-optimal .435 for his career, a percentage that would have some current posters calling for his head. Of course, Kevin Hamilton was a star who contributed in many ways at both ends of the court Kevin was a real stat stuffer—points, rebounds,assists, steals, even blocks occasionally, and RW’s favorite, deflections. He single-handedly brought HC back against Bucknell in the 2005 PLC with four steals in the final minutes or so of the game. I believe he had three in the span of a minute. (Sorry to rehash bad memories) He, and we, got absolutely screwed by his final steal when he was called for an absolutely ridiculous charge taken by Kevin Bettencourt. Officials couldn't get these calls right then, and they can't 15 years later.
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Post by bison137 on Feb 17, 2020 16:53:53 GMT -5
Still a long way to go to catch up to Max Hooper. Over the course of three seasons -- one at St. John's and two at Oakland -- Hooper shot 468 threes to 11 twos. In his final season, he didn't attempt a two point shot. If Wade becomes a 45.5% three point shooter, which is what Hooper was as a senior, then he can shoot ten a game. Then there is Sloan Seymour, a 6-9 freshman PF for Siena last year. Seymour had one of the most one-dimensional seasons in history. He was 7-18 on twos and 94-252 on threes for the year - meaning 93.3% of his shot attempts, despite his 6-9 size, were threes. Unfortunately, unlike Hooper, he only hit 37% on those threes. However to add to his lack of an all-around game, he pulled down all of 22 rebounds in 877 minutes - one rebound every 40 minutes. Despite his 6-9 height, that may have been the worst rebounding rate in the nation for any regular at any position. He also had six assists for the season - one every 146 minutes. Add in seven steals and three blocked shots for the year and he may have had the most one-dimensional season in history. Also he reportedly played poor defense.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Feb 17, 2020 16:59:06 GMT -5
Jamion Christian was clearly okay with Seymour's game, since Seymour followed him to GW.
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 17, 2020 16:59:59 GMT -5
Kevin got a try out with the Celtics, and may have played on their summer league team. Memory is a little fuzzy but I believe Celtics coach Jim O'Brien and RW had both been assistants under RP and that connection didn't hurt.
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Post by bison137 on Feb 17, 2020 17:10:16 GMT -5
Jamion Christian was clearly okay with Seymour's game, since Seymour followed him to GW. Yes, that greatly puzzled Siena fans - who were very happy to see him gone. No idea why Christian was so happy with such a one-dimensional player.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Feb 17, 2020 17:13:08 GMT -5
He had a pile of impressive offers coming out of high school. Maybe Christian thinks he can tweak his game to make him more than just a guy who'd fit perfect in Bill Carmody's offense.
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Post by bison137 on Feb 17, 2020 17:28:02 GMT -5
He had a pile of impressive offers coming out of high school. Maybe Christian thinks he can tweak his game to make him more than just a guy who'd fit perfect in Bill Carmody's offense. Yes and no. He had early offers - the kind that can't be accepted yet - and all of them had been pulled by August prior to his senior year due to a terrible AAU season, according to multiple sources. Also, according to a number of Siena fans, he had a weak HS season as well. Until he got his late Siena offer, he was planning to do a PG year at Hampton since he was out of options prior to that time. Here were a couple of Seymour scouting reports from knowledgeable Siena fans who followed him at Shaker HS, near Albany: - Watched him at Shaker HS and he looks like he might get cut by St Rose. Could he be a useful player for JC? Perhaps, but his motor stinks, he’s virtually useless beyond his 3 point shot, and he didn’t get better from JR to SR year of HS. I would wait on his prep year (at Hampton) and see what happens." - ""If he had good committable D1 offers he wouldn’t have prepped. Those P6 schools you named pulled their offers. Don’t know for a fact on the A10’s but I’d guess they were no longer interested too. He was not good this year for Shaker and personally I’m not sold on taking him at Siena. . . Sloan is prepping because he isn’t a good basketball player."
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Post by WorcesterGray on Feb 17, 2020 18:27:33 GMT -5
If I had to set benchmarks for shooting threes (some here are aware of my control of the red light) I'd say .300= stop taking threes unless wide open .333= okay (about average for D-1) .350= Good .375= Very Good .400= Outstanding Bucknell's Bryson Johnson also had a less than stellar debut, making just 33% of both his twos and threes as a freshman in 2009-10. He became a deadly deep threat thereafter, however, taking almost 80% of his career shots from beyond the arc and hitting about 40%. And he was especially effective coming off the bench.
Just another cautionary tale when it comes to judging freshmen too quickly.
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Post by bison137 on Feb 17, 2020 18:56:49 GMT -5
Another thing about Johnson is that he had as deep a range as anyone who has ever played in the patriot league. It was not unusual for him to shoot from 7 feet behind the arc since he could hit a reasonable percentage even from that distance. The need to guard him that far from the basket opened up a lot of space for his teammates.
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