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Post by ndgradbuthcfan on Feb 20, 2020 5:24:23 GMT -5
I watched the entire game and thought HC played hard throughout. Bucknell simply has better players. With the exception of Manis, we do not have a big who can make a three. Our guard play has been hurting us lately.
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Post by purplehaze on Feb 20, 2020 9:05:11 GMT -5
We ‘played hard’ - I hear the same thing from Brett Nelson after men’s games - the only difference is that the men’s team doesn’t have 5 seniors playing significant minutes. We were a close 2nd in the preseason poll for a reason
Our 3 pt shooters, Manis, Labarbera and Pedi went 0 for 8 from 3 pt range last night
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Post by HC13 on Feb 20, 2020 9:38:34 GMT -5
Yeah, & they had Lehigh #1, bad year for the PL prognosticators. Let that dead horse alone.
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Post by bison137 on Feb 20, 2020 9:54:08 GMT -5
I watched the entire game and thought HC played hard throughout. Bucknell simply has better players. With the exception of Manis, we do not have a big who can make a three. Our guard play has been hurting us lately. I would disagree that Bucknell has better players, especially with Marly Walls out. I think the difference is more on the coaching side. |
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Post by ndgradbuthcfan on Feb 20, 2020 12:32:58 GMT -5
They might have a better coach, too, but they definitely also have better players even with Walls out. (That line reminds me of a joke when Bruins goalie, Pete Peeters, was unable to play.) Back to hoops, our only two three pointers were made by Nicole Morris, probably the least likely player on the team to make a three. Although we're losing only one quality player, next year will be a rebuilding one.
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Post by bison137 on Feb 20, 2020 13:49:49 GMT -5
They might have a better coach, too, but they definitely also have better players even with Walls out. I think you may be exaggerating the quality of the Bucknell players. I think their coaching and ability to play like a team make them look better. For HC, the reverse is true - and has been for a number of years. |
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Post by purplehaze on Feb 20, 2020 13:51:31 GMT -5
that last sentence 'although... rebuilding one' - is a clear indictment of the recruiting in recent years - terrible and not up to PL standards which aren't very high
I took a look at our 3 pt shooting as one of the obvious strategies opposing PL coaches have been effective in their game-planning against us
ooc games team pct: 94 of 219 for 43%
league games pct: 77 of 251 for 31%
among our top three 3 pt shooters:
Lauren:ooc 16 of 31 for 51% and in league 17 of 46 for 37%
Avery: ooc 30 of 71 for 42% and in league 20 of 69 for 29%
Pedi: ooc 21 of 48 for 44% and in league 15 of 45 for 33%
rest of the team ooc 27 of 69 for 39% and in league 25 of 91 for 27%
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Post by ndgradbuthcfan on Feb 20, 2020 15:28:17 GMT -5
Agree with you ph, we're taking fewer in PL games and making a lower percentage of the ones we take. The strategy pays off because with the exception of Manis, our three point takers are unable to generate much offense in other ways. Also agree that recruiting has been less than stellar. Hoping that our incoming freshmen start a new trend and would give CM another year to see if her recruiting efforts have been successful.
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Post by hchoops on Feb 20, 2020 15:35:44 GMT -5
So does this mean another year of interim ?
That would not help in recruiting. Or in her standing with her team
Or a one year contract ?
That would not help either
The decision has to be made, multi year contract or not.
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Post by ndgradbuthcfan on Feb 20, 2020 15:55:40 GMT -5
Good points. Multi year only if we win at least 3/4 remaining games and at least one post season. That would be an improvement over last season in overall and league records.
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Post by hchoops on Feb 20, 2020 16:35:37 GMT -5
Good points. Multi year only if we win at least 3/4 remaining games and at least one post season. That would be an improvement over last season in overall and league records. Is not that a very low bar, esp considering we under achieved last season ? this is a senior dominated team that is under achieving with the returning PoY and RoY, |
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 20, 2020 16:40:28 GMT -5
If the team falls short of a PL championship, but their record is good enough to be invited to one of the minor post season tourneys, I hope they choose to play in it and ADMB chooses to pay for it if it is a pay to play arrangement. If the money can be found for scholarships for men's players in the stands, I hope it can be found for players who want to represent Holy Cross on the court. There are two "minor" postseason events: the NIT and the WBI. There is only one slim chance for HC to get into the NIT. That is for HC to run the table for the rest of the regular season while all the teams in front of them stumble. If they somehow managed to end up with the 2 seed (unlikely) and Bucknell won the tournament, then HC would get an automatic bid. Otherwise there is no chance for a spot in the NIT. The WBI is a very different situation. It is a mediocre tournament and is pay-to-play. Most teams in recent years have shown no interest, so they have invited a large number of very mediocre teams. If HC plays fairly well the rest of the season and were willing to put up the money, they very likely would get into this event - where they would face a lot of teams ranked between 150 and 225. Last year's WBI championship game featured Appalachian State (18-14 prior to the tournament) and North Texas (15-15 prior to the tournament). Both were ranked worse than #150 by Massey. I think what your saying is HC would actually have a chance to win a WBI national post season tournament. Not be the favorite, but all teams would have a shooters chance. I wouldn't want to inflict more work on players and coaches after a long season, but if they were game I'd be watching and rooting...if you could actually see away games on any platform. |
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Post by bison137 on Feb 20, 2020 16:40:38 GMT -5
Good points. Multi year only if we win at least 3/4 remaining games and at least one post season. That would be an improvement over last season in overall and league records. Is not that a very low bar, esp considering we under achieved last season ? this is a senior dominated team that is under achieving with the returning PoY and RoY, Manis is not the returning POY. Has never won that award. |
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Post by hchoops on Feb 20, 2020 16:50:49 GMT -5
Is not that a very low bar, esp considering we under achieved last season ? this is a senior dominated team that is under achieving with the returning PoY and RoY, Manis is not the returning POY. Has never won that award. Pardon, your excellency Manis is Pre season Player of the year |
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 20, 2020 16:52:46 GMT -5
Good points. Multi year only if we win at least 3/4 remaining games and at least one post season. That would be an improvement over last season in overall and league records. What is fascinating, and made more so by the fact we will probably never know for sure, is if ADMB considers AM a victim of the personnel controversy and thus indebted to her for coaching shorthanded all season. Or looks at the situation in any other way. |
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Post by HC92 on Feb 20, 2020 18:11:24 GMT -5
Have to think Blossom will want to start over with a coach of his choosing. Too much baggage with inadequate results for the interim coach. Manis graduating marks a good time to turn the page and start over in yet another sport.
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Post by bison137 on Feb 20, 2020 18:41:30 GMT -5
Manis is not the returning POY. Has never won that award. Pardon, your excellency Manis is Pre season Player of the year Yes, very different. |
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Post by purplehaze on Feb 20, 2020 19:34:09 GMT -5
3 of the final 4 opponents are below us in the standings and are home games with the exception being 2nd place Colgate at home this sat
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Post by ndgradbuthcfan on Feb 21, 2020 5:37:30 GMT -5
If we win out and at least one game in playoffs, we finish no worse than 20-11, which is not bad considering for much of the season we've had a seven woman rotation.
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Post by purplehaze on Feb 21, 2020 8:22:35 GMT -5
Can anyone suggest what’s up with Faulkner ?? Once again she was not with the team in Lewisburg on Wednesday- there’s a story with her and I don’t think it’s a recurring injury
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Post by timholycross on Feb 21, 2020 10:19:10 GMT -5
Well, if true that it's something else, there's your baggage piled on to other baggage (Gibbons vs Parks; Gibbons vs HC; Parks vs whoever) from the last two years. And maybe putting all that together, it's time to turn the coaching staff over completely.
What do you think the story is?
Having said all that, it's more logical she's injured or ill.
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Post by HC13 on Feb 21, 2020 10:56:52 GMT -5
I'm sure that what ever it is, its the same what ever it is that has caused her to miss other games over the 2 seasons.
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 21, 2020 15:15:05 GMT -5
If you have a touch of this or a touch of that, a round trip bus trip to Lewisburg, PA in February is not what the doctor ordered. If she is on a pitch count this would be the game to skip. I have a sense this issue is not in the same league as the above mentioned.
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