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Post by HC92 on Dec 19, 2020 15:52:44 GMT -5
Just noticed that Kenneth Borders, one of Austin Uke’s teammates who verballed to Lafayette in May, re-opened bis recruitment on Thursday. Based on his other offers, I have to believe he was one of Lafayette’s top recruits.
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Post by hc17 on Dec 19, 2020 19:43:30 GMT -5
Apologies if this has already been posted or discussed, but how does this class on paper compare to Chesney’s previous recruits? With last years recruits yet to take the field, can we expect anything wildly different heading into the future (outside of winning PL titles of course)? As Chesney continues to mould the team and positional groups to his vision, what will be HC’s football identity (Maybe we don’t know quite yet)?
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Post by dharry13 on Dec 20, 2020 8:21:43 GMT -5
It compares well. This class just smaller. 6 of the 14 signees on the lines with 3 more at DB. Some real high end talent related to number of and quality of offers. Williams, Jarmolovich, Ruane, Peterson, Monte all with 10 to 20 offers. Shorter with FBS offers. McNair and Cachon with FBS offers. Romboli transfers in from FBS.
High end class with less numbers.
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Post by hchoops on Dec 20, 2020 9:08:30 GMT -5
But we are not finished, correct ?
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Post by rgs318 on Dec 20, 2020 9:22:12 GMT -5
But we are not finished, correct ? Correct, according to Coach Chesney. Let's see what spring brings (in addition to some football games!).
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Post by dharry13 on Dec 20, 2020 9:33:41 GMT -5
Right now the roster has 4 open spots. It depends on two things related to the roster.
1. Will any current Seniors come back for the Fall? 2. Will the PL rosters expand greater than 90 to allow for this?
My opinion would be that the rosters are going to stay at 90 players. If that's the case then the number of players they might look to add in the second signing period could directly relate to the number of Seniors that come back. If none come back then they might sign 4 more players.
Granted there may be a few others that don't come back for other reason beyond what we know. So in a nutshell - I have no idea, but my guess right now is maybe 3 to 4 players.
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Post by hc6774 on Dec 20, 2020 9:50:57 GMT -5
But we are not finished, correct ? appears to be 4/5 roster spots available in the fall '21 DL, OL, WR, & DB look pretty good going into fall LB with just 4 of 8 return in '22... a need? RB with 3 of 5 return in '22l TE all return in '22 but looks thin, QB & PK/K ?
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Post by dharry13 on Dec 20, 2020 10:07:45 GMT -5
Personally based on numbers I think QB, K/P, TE all needs.
I see 7 LB's returning plus the addition of Monte. Yes 4 are graduating in 2021, but could be supplemented by a Strong Safety type moving inside to LB - e.g., Rivers, or others like him. RB could use another player.
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Post by hc2020 on Dec 20, 2020 15:28:00 GMT -5
Personally based on numbers I think QB, K/P, TE all needs. I see 7 LB's returning plus the addition of Monte. Yes 4 are graduating in 2021, but could be supplemented by a Strong Safety type moving inside to LB - e.g., Rivers, or others like him. RB could use another player. The way we play defense, we really only have two traditional LBs at any given time, both of whom play inside. As long as Dobbs stays healthy, he is a lock for one of those spots for the next 2-3 years, with Bolden and Dickson being the other candidates currently on the roster. The others who play in our defense are more in the SS/WLB mold. Rivers fits that role the best, as he has the combination of size (215LBs) and speed to play in and out of the box. Matt Kane might be another. I agree, however, that they need another one with his skill set to add depth to that position.
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Post by hc6774 on Dec 20, 2020 16:35:38 GMT -5
Personally based on numbers I think QB, K/P, TE all needs. I see 7 LB's returning plus the addition of Monte. Yes 4 are graduating in 2021, but could be supplemented by a Strong Safety type moving inside to LB - e.g., Rivers, or others like him. RB could use another player. The way we play defense, we really only have two traditional LBs at any given time, both of whom play inside. As long as Dobbs stays healthy, he is a lock for one of those spots for the next 2-3 years, with Bolden and Dickson being the other candidates currently on the roster. The others who play in our defense are more in the SS/WLB mold. Rivers fits that role the best, as he has the combination of size (215LBs) and speed to play in and out of the box. Matt Kane might be another. I agree, however, that they need another one with his skill set to add depth to that position. Do you see any off-tackle runners in the WR group... a la Cozier ?
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Post by nailourcolors on Dec 20, 2020 20:04:04 GMT -5
Personally based on numbers I think QB, K/P, TE all needs. I see 7 LB's returning plus the addition of Monte. Yes 4 are graduating in 2021, but could be supplemented by a Strong Safety type moving inside to LB - e.g., Rivers, or others like him. RB could use another player. The way we play defense, we really only have two traditional LBs at any given time, both of whom play inside. As long as Dobbs stays healthy, he is a lock for one of those spots for the next 2-3 years, with Bolden and Dickson being the other candidates currently on the roster. The others who play in our defense are more in the SS/WLB mold. Rivers fits that role the best, as he has the combination of size (215LBs) and speed to play in and out of the box. Matt Kane might be another. I agree, however, that they need another one with his skill set to add depth to that position. I’m sure there are kids who can move to / and or play aa Hybrid LB / Viper role, but let’s not anoint Freshman (current or incoming) who have yet to play a College game. Rivers played in a small school division (division 6) against weak competition and all of these kids will need to adjust to the speed of the college game.
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Post by dharry13 on Dec 21, 2020 8:34:34 GMT -5
I'm not sure anyone was anointing any particular player. Just pointing out players on the roster who might be able to fill that role in the future. I'm sure the coaches will figure it out.
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Post by timholycross on Dec 21, 2020 11:34:13 GMT -5
So much upheaval caused by the pandemic- I'm afraid that most schools are going to have problems fielding teams with a lot of experience.
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Post by newfieguy74 on Dec 26, 2020 14:51:44 GMT -5
Jesuit led 13-3 at the half. Pesansky a 25 yard touchdown pass, the other TD was a punt return. Heritage's defense was the difference, as Heritage had five turnovers, and Jesuit unable to capitalize. Heritage won on a last second FG. Haven't found individual stats. With Pesansky winning accolades (Big County Preps POY) I wonder if I'm taking too simplistic a view, or being paranoid, as I start worrying that some power conference is going to start poaching.
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Post by dharry13 on Dec 26, 2020 15:16:12 GMT -5
He signed his NLI so he’s locked in. Can’t imagine an FBS school getting involved until they see him play in college at this point.
If he starts at HC as a Frosh or Soph and tears it up then anything can happen.
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Post by breezy on Dec 28, 2020 9:03:08 GMT -5
Recruiting update as of this morning:
QB Ridge Jacobs of Jacksonville, Florida, who had committed to Holy Cross and then de-committed, still has not made a commitment.
DL Tommy Romond of Metuchen, New Jersey, who had committed to Holy Cross and then de-committed, has indeed (as indicated by dharry13) committed to Johns Hopkins.
OL Austin Uke of Dallas, Texas, who had committed to Holy Cross and then de-committed after receiving several high-level FBS offers, has not yet made a commitment.
DB Boogsie Silvera of Plantation, Florida, one of dharry13's picks as a high-level Holy Cross recruiting target, has not yet made a commitment.
At this point, out of a total of 207 known offers, 24 (including Silvera) still appear to be uncommitted, but the level of continued interest by Holy Cross in any of these previously offered recruits is unknown.
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Post by HC92 on Dec 28, 2020 10:42:26 GMT -5
Thanks, breezy. Our continued interest in the higher level guys (and them in us) is entirely dependent on whether we have enough $ left to offer them full rides. No idea what the situation is there.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Dec 28, 2020 12:02:37 GMT -5
Romond was likely a partial scholarship offer?? I don't think many athletes would turn down a full scholarship to HC to pay to play at D-3 Hopkins--unless they got an academic/need full-ride there
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Post by HC92 on Dec 28, 2020 12:32:43 GMT -5
Romond was likely a partial scholarship offer?? I don't think many athletes would turn down a full scholarship to HC to pay to play at D-3 Hopkins--unless they got an academic/need full-ride there As far as I know, Romond didn’t have other D1 offers. It’s possible he was non-scholarship. If he got a chance to play at Hopkins rather than maybe sitting the bench at HC and get a degree from a school with a better academic reputation, can’t blame him.
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Post by dharry13 on Dec 28, 2020 12:34:07 GMT -5
Yes, I believe HC92 is spot on.
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Post by breezy on Dec 28, 2020 15:19:08 GMT -5
For those who put any faith in the ratings given by the major recruiting sites (Rivals and 247 Sports) -- and I have very little (example: Austin Uke -- as a Holy Cross commit he had no rating, but once he started getting some big time offers, his rating suddenly jumped to 4* (90)), here are the ratings for the recruits in the Holy Cross recruiting class:
Justin Shorter -- Rivals: 2* (5.4) Ryan Ruane -- 247 Sports: 3* (81) Joshua Williams -- Rivals: 2* (5.4); 247 Sports: 2* (78) Eddy Cachon -- 247 Sports: 3* (80) Camron McNair -- Rivals: 2* (5.3); 247 Sports -- 3* (83) Marcus Romboli -- 247 Sports: 2* (79) (2019)
Several other commits (Jarmolowich, Petersen, Monte) were listed but had no rating assigned.
Holy Cross offerees who committed to other Patriot League schools:
Ibri Harrell -- Georgetown Scott Fulton -- Lehigh Matt Jaworski -- Fordham Zach Young -- Lafayette Ethan Malachi West -- Colgate Jed Henry -- Lafayette
Holy Cross offerees who committed to Ivy League Schools -- 27 (Harvard 8, Princeton 7, Yale 5, Penn 4, Columbia 2, Dartmouth 1. Brown 0, Cornell 0)
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Post by sader1970 on Dec 28, 2020 17:09:47 GMT -5
That might be a good question whenever there is another coaches night to ask Chesney what bearing do these ratings have, if any, on which players they recruit or target.
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Post by HC92 on Dec 28, 2020 17:29:53 GMT -5
As evidenced by Uke, the ratings are based primarily on what level of schools seem to be recruiting a kid. I doubt coaches pay any attention to them at all. Watching reports of offers from other schools may help as sure we don’t miss kids, particularly in an area where we don’t have as much coverage on the ground.
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Post by breezy on Dec 28, 2020 17:33:49 GMT -5
I'd predict that the ratings on the recruiting sites are irrelevant to the coaching staff. My sense is that decisions on when and to whom to make an offer is driven primarily by other factors, such as [1] evaluation of film (not just highlight films, but full game films when they can be obtained), [2] recommendations by local coaches with whom the staff has developed relationships, [3] evaluation of a potential recruit's grades and personal interactions with the staff, and [4] other information regarding a potential recruit's work ethic and anticipated interaction with team members. Others may be able to identify other factors.
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Post by dharry13 on Dec 28, 2020 18:23:14 GMT -5
I agree with everything breezy said. Only thing I would add is coaches like to know where kids have also been offered. It helps them determine what type of offer it might take for a player to commit. As an example I’d make a wager that Josh Williams has to offered a full scholarship to get him based on his other offers.
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