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Post by timholycross on Mar 14, 2020 14:03:52 GMT -5
I guess if someone were going to hire him, I'd recommend they do it this week...given what's going on in the country it'll fly under the radar screen.
However, given where Iona is, New Rochelle, it might be some time before he sets foot on campus.
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Post by rf1 on Mar 14, 2020 14:48:33 GMT -5
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Post by hchoops on Mar 14, 2020 14:55:40 GMT -5
And I had thought that Cluess had few scruples.
What the Irish CHRISTIAN Brothers Hath wrought !
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Mar 14, 2020 15:07:07 GMT -5
Well, I monitored him the best I could while he was at UK or U of L. It's up to you New Yorkers now to keep an eye on Tricky Ricky. Good luck.
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Post by rgs318 on Mar 14, 2020 15:16:18 GMT -5
And I had thought that Cluess had few scruples. What the Irish CHRISTIAN Brothers Hath wrought ! Shocking. How long until Iona faces NCAA sanctions again? BTW, the Irish Christian Brothers order have not used that name for years now. It was first changed to "Brothers of the Christian Schools" and then some variation using their founder's name Edmund Ignatius Rice. |
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Post by td128 on Mar 14, 2020 15:23:22 GMT -5
I believe in many things including redemption, humility, and a commitment to excellence. I also like winning and the impact that truly competitive programs have on a college campus.
Think Iona would make this hire without already having checked with the NCAA to see if there were any impending meaningful violations?
I applaud Iona President Seamus Carey for having the fortitude and vision to make this move. I would fully expect that Iona will play many high profile OOC games at MSG.
Social media is exploding with 98% positive commentary on this hire. Can't buy press like that.
When schools in the northeast are fighting ever harder for students and the do re mi of endowment dollars are increasingly important, opportunities to hire individuals who can have an impact such as RP are typically non-existent.
Oh, what might have been. Another huge missed opportunity for the Crusaders. And if you are wondering if my comment here means what you might think it does.
The answer is YES.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Mar 14, 2020 15:37:09 GMT -5
Swing and a miss by TPTB on Rose Hill.
With this announcement, Fordham should announce their move to the PL effective this past Thursday.
You're either a big-time basketball school or youre not.
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Post by hchoops on Mar 14, 2020 15:50:11 GMT -5
I believe in many things including redemption, humility, and a commitment to excellence. I also like winning and the impact that truly competitive programs have on a college campus. Think Iona would make this hire without already having checked with the NCAA to see if there were any impending meaningful violations? I applaud Iona President Seamus Carey for having the fortitude and vision to make this move. I would fully expect that Iona will play many high profile OOC games at MSG. Social media is exploding with 98% positive commentary on this hire. Can't buy press like that. When schools in the northeast are fighting ever harder for students and the do re mi of endowment dollars are increasingly important, opportunities to hire individuals who can have an impact such as RP are typically non-existent. Oh, what might have been. Another huge missed opportunity for the Crusaders. And if you are wondering if my comment here means what you might think it does. The answer is YES. Wow So because the NCAA(I do not recall you being a defender previously)possibly exonerates him, even though his Louisville team is the only one to vacate a National Championship, you think he should be hired , by a Catholic or even, if I follow your last point, by our alma mater, You mention meaningful violations. How about being in charge of a program that hired prostitutes to entertain recruits, or admitting having sex on a restaurant table, or the latest, bribing a recruit’s parent ? Why was he fired by Louisville ? He is a cancer. Of the values you espouse here, you do not mention individual character. You do not mention a personal role model for 18-22 year old males. And social media of course is a fine example of Christian values, so that is another reason to hire him. And finally there is winning and possible increased enrollment. And when do they get placed in probation ? Does he leave for greener pastures before or after his school goes on probation ? So is there any limit to past conduct that would eliminate a potential individual to coach again ? You rightfully are a big backer of .Bob Chesney, who represents Holy Cross so well. Other than winning, I see no similarity between Bob and pitino. |
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Post by hchoops on Mar 14, 2020 15:51:54 GMT -5
Swing and a miss by TPTB on Rose Hill. With this announcement, Fordham should announce their move to the PL effective this past Thursday. You're either a big-time basketball school or youre not. Did Fordham fire their ccach and then hire someone ? |
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 14, 2020 15:53:27 GMT -5
I believe in many things including redemption, humility, and a commitment to excellence. I also like winning and the impact that truly competitive programs have on a college campus. Think Iona would make this hire without already having checked with the NCAA to see if there were any impending meaningful violations? I applaud Iona President Seamus Carey for having the fortitude and vision to make this move. I would fully expect that Iona will play many high profile OOC games at MSG. Social media is exploding with 98% positive commentary on this hire. Can't buy press like that. When schools in the northeast are fighting ever harder for students and the do re mi of endowment dollars are increasingly important, opportunities to hire individuals who can have an impact such as RP are typically non-existent. Oh, what might have been. Another huge missed opportunity for the Crusaders. And if you are wondering if my comment here means what you might think it does. The answer is YES. Thought provoking TD. We like to stake out the moral high ground AND we like to win. Current scenario in MBB is a mix of big time basketball excess with all the defections and mid major futility with the won loss record. |
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Post by Tom on Mar 14, 2020 15:57:13 GMT -5
Think Iona would make this hire without already having checked with the NCAA to see if there were any impending meaningful violations? No need. Pitino hasn't been hired yet. He hasn't really had a chance to rack up any violations. Redemption is nice. Sometimes a leopard doesn't change his spots. Maybe Pitino will be concerned about his legacy and keep things clean. Maybe Iona doesn't win fast enough and Pitino cuts some corners. An incredible risk/reward gamble |
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Post by hiltonheadcrusader on Mar 14, 2020 16:41:52 GMT -5
3 - 29
As someone else from MA once said, “the fish stinks from the head”
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Post by WorcesterGray on Mar 14, 2020 16:45:32 GMT -5
Zach Braziller
@nypost_Brazille
Rick Pitino told me if Ed Cooley left Providence for Michigan last year, that was one job he had his eye on. Another was Holy Cross, because of connection he had to the school.
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Post by hiltonheadcrusader on Mar 14, 2020 16:56:36 GMT -5
Can only imagine how far into his first year it took HCBN to develop Buyer’s Remorse. Saddled with a disastrous situation and an A.D. unwilling to support him in his desire to rebuild (aka over-recruit). Poor guy. Burroughs & Blossom like wearing a concrete necktie in the deep end of the pool.
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 14, 2020 17:01:49 GMT -5
Zach Braziller @nypost_Brazille Rick Pitino told me if Ed Cooley left Providence for Michigan last year, that was one job he had his eye on. Another was Holy Cross, because of connection he had to the school. If true it appears ADMB made an affirmative decision not to hire him. RP is not a passive person and if he had an eye on the HC opening he surely would have made his interest known when the opening occurred. |
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Post by rgs318 on Mar 14, 2020 17:05:02 GMT -5
I am thankful that HC will not have to deal with the scandals that seem to follow RP wherever he goes. Iona had its own problems years ago with an unethical coach whose violations left them hanging (after he had moved on). I am glad HC did the right thing here and did not welcome RP to the Hill.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Mar 14, 2020 17:12:10 GMT -5
Swing and a miss by TPTB on Rose Hill. With this announcement, Fordham should announce their move to the PL effective this past Thursday. You're either a big-time basketball school or youre not. Did Fordham fire their ccach and then hire someone ? Good point. |
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Post by Ray on Mar 14, 2020 17:25:16 GMT -5
Iona hiring Pitino is BANANAS. I don’t care what kind of positive social buzz this is getting right now. The guy is morally bankrupt. I would never want him representing my school. I would have never given HC another dollar if they had hired that guy.
It’s not a “high risk, high reward” gamble. We have decades of evidence as to what kind of human being Rick Pitino is. Iona decided to hitch their wagon to this garbage person. Absolute craziness.
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Post by hchoops on Mar 14, 2020 17:28:39 GMT -5
Iona hiring Pitino is BANANAS. I don’t care what kind of positive social buzz this is getting right now. The guy is morally bankrupt. I would never want him representing my school. I would have never given HC another dollar if they had hired that guy. It’s not a “high risk, high reward” gamble. We have decades of evidence as to what kind of human being Rick Pitino is. Iona decided to hitch their wagon to this garbage person. Absolute craziness. Exactly |
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Post by hchoops on Mar 14, 2020 17:38:36 GMT -5
Iona AD
“Rick’s values aligned with the goals and values for the college”
No further comment is needed.
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Post by purplehaze on Mar 14, 2020 17:39:37 GMT -5
Someone once said ‘Christianity is a radical religion’ - I wouldn’t hire him but forgiveness and redemption are non-negotiable - I hope he is a changed man and if not the press in this part of the country is very different than Kentucky and they will keep an eye on him for sure
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Post by Ray on Mar 14, 2020 17:40:52 GMT -5
Iona AD “Rick’s values aligned with the goals and values for the college” No further comment is needed. It's official, irony is dead. |
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Post by hchoops on Mar 14, 2020 17:43:16 GMT -5
Someone once said ‘Christianity is a radical religion’ - I wouldn’t hire him but forgiveness and redemption are non-negotiable - I thought that to be forgiven, one needed to show remorse and the will to not do the same again ? |
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Post by bringbackcaro on Mar 14, 2020 17:50:11 GMT -5
I believe in many things including redemption, humility, and a commitment to excellence. I also like winning and the impact that truly competitive programs have on a college campus. Think Iona would make this hire without already having checked with the NCAA to see if there were any impending meaningful violations? I applaud Iona President Seamus Carey for having the fortitude and vision to make this move. I would fully expect that Iona will play many high profile OOC games at MSG. Social media is exploding with 98% positive commentary on this hire. Can't buy press like that. When schools in the northeast are fighting ever harder for students and the do re mi of endowment dollars are increasingly important, opportunities to hire individuals who can have an impact such as RP are typically non-existent. Oh, what might have been. Another huge missed opportunity for the Crusaders. And if you are wondering if my comment here means what you might think it does. The answer is YES. +100000 I’m jealous of Iona’s ability to make such a powerful and “unconventional” move in the cover of darkness while the rest of the sports world was asleep. I can only dream of the days when HC leadership would have the fortitude to step up and break the status quo. |
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Post by timholycross on Mar 14, 2020 17:51:43 GMT -5
I see him going after every transfer he can find (does Iona have a grad school?) and having a great year or two; then going back into the big time. Whether Iona will benefit in the long run remains to be seen.
Either that or he'll fall flat on his face trying that.
I just don't see him being like Ralph was at HC and willing to spend his remaining head coaching days there. It's actually the only way he could salvage some of his reputation. He's always been a hell of a coach with lesser talent; but when you're in the big time it's pretty clear that lesser talent won't sustain you.
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