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Mack POY
Mar 8, 2020 16:07:51 GMT -5
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Post by HC92 on Mar 8, 2020 16:07:51 GMT -5
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Post by alum on Mar 9, 2020 7:45:38 GMT -5
I understand what Bison is saying and I would agree if we came in last in the league. I think our player was robbed. She was on an above .500 team and her numbers were superior.
If the PL isn't giving POY awards to players on weaker teams, how did Joe P win the ROY?
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Post by purplehaze on Mar 9, 2020 9:36:10 GMT -5
I have to point out that with our roster for this season we arranged a very weak ooc schedule which was part of the problem - for the last few years we have not played Harvard, Yale, Northeastern, Providence to name a few stronger opponents a bus ride away - instead we schedule traditionally weak teams like UNH, Bryant, Brown, URI (and this year a Fl. trip vs. two low majors) - that being said, next season I'd suggest we don't change the policy in place. It will be a rebuild regardless of who the coach is
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Post by HC13 on Mar 9, 2020 10:20:43 GMT -5
The schedule wasn't particularly weak in comparison to the rest of the league per Massey schedule rankings, or for that matter Bucknell's wasn't particularly challenging: American – 174 BU – 179 Bucknell – 183 Loyola – 193 Lehigh – 195 Colgate – 199 Army – 196 Holy Cross – 200 Lafayette - 214 Navy – 224
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Post by purplehaze on Mar 9, 2020 10:53:55 GMT -5
With 5 srs. and 4 starters my expectations for this past season were obviously higher than yours. ooc basketball schedules are not made years in advance - we intentionally created a soft one which did not toughen up this team adequately.
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Post by HC13 on Mar 9, 2020 11:00:19 GMT -5
I said nothing about my expectations I simply corrected your misleading statement as it pertained to this year. You have no idea of when this games were scheduled and neither do I.
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Post by HC13 on Mar 23, 2020 13:10:23 GMT -5
In think this was expected by Bison:
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Post by bison137 on Mar 23, 2020 13:34:00 GMT -5
Not a big surprise. She was in the same position as Sestina, graduating with a year of eligibility left due to injury. Not allowed to do another year at Bucknell unfortunately due to the Administration normally not allowing 5th year players.
Whether she actually plays another year will, I think, depend on what kind of free grad program she can find. Unlike Sestina, I don't think she is a sure thing to do a 5th year. She did have a 3.75 GPA in neuroscience, so getting into a good grad program is a good probability.
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Post by bkny on Mar 23, 2020 14:49:09 GMT -5
Word on the street is that UNebraska has major interest.
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 23, 2020 19:10:27 GMT -5
Word on the street is that UNebraska has major interest. Must be a cyber street in the age of coronavirus.
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 23, 2020 19:20:30 GMT -5
Not a big surprise. She was in the same position as Sestina, graduating with a year of eligibility left due to injury. Not allowed to do another year at Bucknell unfortunately due to the Administration normally not allowing 5th year players. Whether she actually plays another year will, I think, depend on what kind of free grad program she can find. Unlike Sestina, I don't think she is a sure thing to do a 5th year. She did have a 3.75 GPA in neuroscience, so getting into a good grad program is a good probability. The Bucknell Basketball boosters must be griping over the loss of both Sestina and Mack for what logically should have been the most productive year of basketball for each. It's like saying we'll get rid of our diamonds and keep our cubic zirconia (not criticizing any other players, I was just very impressed with both Sestina and Mack). Perhaps a down year or two will heighten the impetus to review this policy more than continued success did.
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Mack POY
Mar 23, 2020 21:10:44 GMT -5
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Post by HC92 on Mar 23, 2020 21:10:44 GMT -5
Not a big surprise. She was in the same position as Sestina, graduating with a year of eligibility left due to injury. Not allowed to do another year at Bucknell unfortunately due to the Administration normally not allowing 5th year players. Whether she actually plays another year will, I think, depend on what kind of free grad program she can find. Unlike Sestina, I don't think she is a sure thing to do a 5th year. She did have a 3.75 GPA in neuroscience, so getting into a good grad program is a good probability. The Bucknell Basketball boosters must be griping over the loss of both Sestina and Mack for what logically should have been the most productive year of basketball for each. It's like saying we'll get rid of our diamonds and keep our cubic zirconia (not criticizing any other players, I was just very impressed with both Sestina and Mack). Perhaps a down year or two will heighten the impetus to review this policy more than continued success did. Yes, if only they would have had him back, Sestina gladly would have come back for a 5th year at Bucknell over a year at Kentucky.
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 23, 2020 21:29:33 GMT -5
I can't think of everything when I make a post.
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Post by bison137 on Mar 23, 2020 21:58:04 GMT -5
The Bucknell Basketball boosters must be griping over the loss of both Sestina and Mack for what logically should have been the most productive year of basketball for each. It's like saying we'll get rid of our diamonds and keep our cubic zirconia (not criticizing any other players, I was just very impressed with both Sestina and Mack). Perhaps a down year or two will heighten the impetus to review this policy more than continued success did. Yes, if only they would have had him back, Sestina gladly would have come back for a 5th year at Bucknell over a year at Kentucky. That's unclear. If he had been told he was welcome to use his full eligibility at Bucknell - and been told that during the 2017-18 season, he might well have never entered the transfer portal. Bucknell was close to home and the first D1 school to show interest in him. Nate has a great deal of loyalty.
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Post by bison137 on Mar 23, 2020 21:59:56 GMT -5
Not a big surprise. She was in the same position as Sestina, graduating with a year of eligibility left due to injury. Not allowed to do another year at Bucknell unfortunately due to the Administration normally not allowing 5th year players. Whether she actually plays another year will, I think, depend on what kind of free grad program she can find. Unlike Sestina, I don't think she is a sure thing to do a 5th year. She did have a 3.75 GPA in neuroscience, so getting into a good grad program is a good probability. The Bucknell Basketball boosters must be griping over the loss of both Sestina and Mack for what logically should have been the most productive year of basketball for each. It's like saying we'll get rid of our diamonds and keep our cubic zirconia (not criticizing any other players, I was just very impressed with both Sestina and Mack). Perhaps a down year or two will heighten the impetus to review this policy more than continued success did. Unlikely that will change - with the possible exception of a change at the top. And any change at the top likely would make things first. Bucknell generally has had administrations that are not very supportive of athletics. For another example, there still are no male athletic scholarships except in football.
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Post by hchoops on Mar 23, 2020 22:04:03 GMT -5
The Bucknell Basketball boosters must be griping over the loss of both Sestina and Mack for what logically should have been the most productive year of basketball for each. It's like saying we'll get rid of our diamonds and keep our cubic zirconia (not criticizing any other players, I was just very impressed with both Sestina and Mack). Perhaps a down year or two will heighten the impetus to review this policy more than continued success did. Unlikely that will change - with the possible exception of a change at the top. And any change at the top likely would make things first. Bucknell generally has had administrations that are not very supportive of athletics. For another example, there still are no male athletic scholarships except in football. What ? No basketball scholarships for men ??
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 23, 2020 22:29:40 GMT -5
We've been getting beaten by non-scholarship players?
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Post by timholycross on Mar 24, 2020 9:02:25 GMT -5
I think he means "in an all-male sport" perhaps
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Post by bison137 on Mar 24, 2020 12:37:16 GMT -5
Unlikely that will change - with the possible exception of a change at the top. And any change at the top likely would make things first. Bucknell generally has had administrations that are not very supportive of athletics. For another example, there still are no male athletic scholarships except in football. What ? No basketball scholarships for men ?? Yes of course. Bucknell has male scholarships in two sports: football (since 2012?) and basketball (since 2003)
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Mack POY
Mar 24, 2020 13:16:44 GMT -5
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 24, 2020 13:16:44 GMT -5
I wonder if Christy Mathewson received an athletic scholarship for football and baseball?
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Post by rgs318 on Mar 24, 2020 13:18:56 GMT -5
Back then he may have received a salary as well. I remember hearing how Hop Riopel was presented with a purse of gold coins buy the grateful fans of Worcester in his senior year.
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Mack POY
Mar 24, 2020 13:47:38 GMT -5
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 24, 2020 13:47:38 GMT -5
College baseball players would play on semi-pro teams in the summer under assumed names to protect their amateur status.
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Post by bison137 on Mar 24, 2020 13:59:20 GMT -5
College baseball players would play on semi-pro teams in the summer under assumed names to protect their amateur status. Mathewson played at least one year of semi-pro, although at that time I'm not sure he had to use an assumed name. More importantly, he actually played five games for the NY Giants in the summer after his sophomore year at Bucknell. Then returned to Bucknell for his junior year and played football again. Football, as some of you know, was the sport he was better known for at Bucknell. Made Walter Camp's All-American team in 1900.
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Mack POY
Mar 24, 2020 14:03:16 GMT -5
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 24, 2020 14:03:16 GMT -5
He gave his life for his country in WW1 by getting gassed accidentally in a training exercise before struggling the last seven years of his life with the resultant Tuberculosis.
He was even more of a hero in that regard than Ted Williams who served in two wars, because Ted didn't make the ultimate sacrifice.
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Post by bison137 on Mar 24, 2020 14:28:41 GMT -5
He gave his life for his country in WW1 by getting gassed accidentally in a training exercise before struggling the last seven years of his life with the resultant Tuberculosis. He was even more of a hero in that regard than Ted Williams who served in two wars, because Ted didn't make the ultimate sacrifice. If you are ever in Lewisburg, Mathewson and his wife are buried in the Lewisburg cemetery located just behind Sojka Pavilion. One other thing some people don't know about Mathewson is that he was religious to the extent he would not play on Sunday. Didn't play one game on a Sunday in his MLB career. In addition to baseball and football at Bucknell, he also played basketball and was class president.
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