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Post by HC92 on Apr 15, 2021 16:30:55 GMT -5
NCAA has officially passed the new transfer rule. First time transfers will all be immediately eligible.
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Post by HC92 on Apr 15, 2021 16:36:24 GMT -5
I think it’s bad for the game of college basketball. The new rule will continue to reduce my interest in college hoops (excluding HC) which has been waning for a few years anyway. For kids stuck with a coach who didn’t recruit them, I’m all for immediate transfers. Beyond that, I think the cons outweigh the pros.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Apr 15, 2021 18:17:51 GMT -5
The Power Five schools have agreed to move from 5-year to 4- year leases for the players cars so there should be some $$ savings there
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Post by dharry13 on Apr 16, 2021 8:12:49 GMT -5
I think it’s bad for the game of college basketball. The new rule will continue to reduce my interest in college hoops (excluding HC) which has been waning for a few years anyway. For kids stuck with a coach who didn’t recruit them, I’m all for immediate transfers. Beyond that, I think the cons outweigh the pros. It just further encourages kids to quit on their existing team when they aren't getting their own way rather than persevere through a tough time. I'm with you if their Coach leaves, the kids should have an option if that occurs.
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Post by Tom on Apr 16, 2021 8:46:02 GMT -5
Misinterpretation of the phrase "When the going gets tough, the tough get going"
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Post by mm67 on Apr 16, 2021 10:30:22 GMT -5
I agree in general with the criticisms of the transfer portal. But, I started to think of the other side. TBT it seems to me many (myself included) on this board along with many others criticize the use(misuse?) of the transfer portal based on our own personal preferences, our self interest. For example some of us want to see HC student-athletes remain with the team to build a winner. And,other students to stay with the PL to build a stronger, more successful league. And, others to stay with their college teams for a more familiar, enjoyable viewing experience, a better brand of college basketball for us to enjoy. Understandably, we prefer stability to chaos. Transferees are routinely criticized.Unholy,, selfish motives are ascribed to the young men. Accusations of betrayal and irresponsible behavior have been hurled at the young men by others who want them to stay with their teams for their own reasons without any concern for the motivations of the young men. Few have commented on what is in the best interests of th students. Are we student centered? What if students believe it is in their best interests to switch schools whether it is for their b-ball career or an education better suited to them? What if some are uncomfortable with the school, simply don't like the place? They are young. There are a myriad of rationales for students to switch schools but ultimately it is their choice. Now, some might posit that a scholarship student who transfers should forfeit his right to a scholarship to play for another school. Cut back on his freedom to choose. Punish the transferring student in some way for his offense in not serving others' interests and merely for following what he may deem best for himself. In other words he is expected to sacrifice his freedom in order to serve the interests of others fans(us), coaches, teams, schools, the media, Dickie V., etc. I cannot find a satisfactory resolution to what I consider a conundrum. This is merely an observation and certainly this is not an implied criticism of any of us on this board who I believe are of good will to the kids. It is a good faith attempt.
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 16, 2021 15:18:57 GMT -5
I agree in general with the criticisms of the transfer portal. But, I started to think of the other side. TBT it seems to me many (myself included) on this board along with many others criticize the use(misuse?) of the transfer portal based on our own personal preferences, our self interest. For example some of us want to see HC student-athletes remain with the team to build a winner. And, stay with the PL to build a stronger, more successful league. And, stay with their college teams for a more familiar, enjoyable viewing experience, a better brand of college basketball for us to enjoy. Understandably, we prefer stability to chaos. Transferees are routinely criticized.Unholy,, selfish motives are ascribed to the young men. Accusations of betrayal and irresponsible behavior have been hurled at the young men by others who want them to stay with their teams for their own reasons without any concern for the motivations of the young men. Few have commented on what is in the best interests of th students. Are we student centered? What if students believe it is in their best interests to switch schools whether it is for their b-ball career or an education better suited to them? What if some are uncomfortable with the school, simply don't like the place? They are young. There are a myriad of rationales for students to switch schools but ultimately it is their choice. Now, some might posit that a scholarship student who transfers should forfeit his right to a scholarship to play for another school. Cut back on his freedom to choose. Punish the transferring student in some way for his offense in not serving others' interests and merely for following what he may deem best for himself. In other words he is expected to sacrifice his freedom in order to serve the interests of others fans(us), coaches, teams, schools, the media, Dickie V., etc. I cannot find a satisfactory resolution to what I consider a conundrum. This is merely an observation and certainly this is not an implied criticism of any of us on this board who I believe are of good will to the kids. It is a good faith attempt. I'm not as worried about the portal as some because it's like shuffling the deck. No matter how fancy your shuffling is or how many times you do it, there's still 52 cards in the deck. Provide a good overall college experience, recruit to fit your school and communicate often and well and you shouldn't have a problem. Like my favorite Red Auerbach quote when he was asked how the Celtics would ever be able to beat a Lakers team with Wilt joining Jerry West and Elgin Baylor. He replied "There's still only one ball." Again, although anything is possible, congratulations to the M&W BB coaching staffs for having nobody in the portal at this time and no recent turnover on the staffs either. The portal provides a safety valve for when a fit isn't right and as MM67 talks about, seeks to level the rights and responsibilities between players, coaches and schools. In a way it can function as an additional layer of oversight (from below) of college BB head coaches who as a class were starting to usurp more than their fair share of oxygen in college basketball. Some AD's don't provide as close a supervision as is common in other industries but now players can provide an additional check on a head coach, all within the rules.
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Post by timholycross on Apr 16, 2021 16:04:26 GMT -5
Several of Carmody's recruits were stretches and some were only decent in his system. The group of players that fit into that category and left did everyone a service by moving on; most importantly, themselves. From what I can see, they are all still playing basketball at some level and getting an education.
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Post by DiMarz on Apr 17, 2021 11:42:39 GMT -5
Several of Carmody's recruits were stretches and some were only decent in his system. The group of players that fit into that category and left did everyone a service by moving on; most importantly, themselves. From what I can see, they are all still playing basketball at some level and getting an education. I believe the players that Coach Nelson is bringing in are a step or two above the players that transferred.. Good people all, and I'm glad the transfers are getting an education and hopefully enjoying playing hoops were they landed...HC is bringing in more athletic, "longer" and for the most part better skilled players. I feel like the program is trending up!
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Post by trimster on Apr 19, 2021 16:29:36 GMT -5
Portal hits 1,400 in the last hour. 15, anyone?
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Post by DiMarz on Apr 19, 2021 16:31:12 GMT -5
Portal hits 1,400 in the last hour. 15, anyone? Wouldn't be surprised now that transfers no longer have to sit a year...
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Post by notjuanjones on Apr 20, 2021 10:13:22 GMT -5
AU senior center Jesse Little in the portal. He opted out last year and wasn't going to get much playing time next year. Charitably, he hadn't gotten much time in his three years here other than one stretch his freshman season when our top two centers were out with injuries. But he's a nice kid and I hope he finds a place where he can get some run next season.
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Post by notjuanjones on Apr 20, 2021 11:38:03 GMT -5
Also, Colgate's Nelly Cummings said yesterday he's returning next season after putting his name in the portal last month. So is guard Jack Ferguson. Raiders lose Jordan Burns but will now bring everyone else back next year. I'd say they'd still be preseason number one, unless Santi Aldama takes his name out of the NBA draft.
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Post by classof83 on Apr 20, 2021 14:01:58 GMT -5
Also, Colgate's Nelly Cummings said yesterday he's returning next season after putting his name in the portal last month. So is guard Jack Ferguson. Raiders lose Jordan Burns but will now bring everyone else back next year. I'd say they'd still be preseason number one, unless Santi Aldama takes his name out of the NBA draft. Isn't Ferguson a Senior? I know the NCAA isn't counting this last year - but is the Patriot League allowing a senior to have another year?
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Post by notjuanjones on Apr 20, 2021 15:11:41 GMT -5
Also, Colgate's Nelly Cummings said yesterday he's returning next season after putting his name in the portal last month. So is guard Jack Ferguson. Raiders lose Jordan Burns but will now bring everyone else back next year. I'd say they'd still be preseason number one, unless Santi Aldama takes his name out of the NBA draft. Isn't Ferguson a Senior? I know the NCAA isn't counting this last year - but is the Patriot League allowing a senior to have another year? Well, he thinks he's coming back:
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Post by breezy on Apr 22, 2021 13:22:32 GMT -5
Just saw a tweet indicating that Drew Lowder, who played at EMU this past year, has entered the Transfer Portal.
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Post by hchoops on Apr 22, 2021 13:37:19 GMT -5
Just saw a tweet indicating that Drew Lowder, who played at EMU this past year, has entered the Transfer Portal. Shocking He has to get to 4 colleges to equal the number of AAU teams he played four. A zebra does not change its stripes
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Post by trimster on Apr 22, 2021 13:59:37 GMT -5
Just saw a tweet indicating that Drew Lowder, who played at EMU this past year, has entered the Transfer Portal. So now Lowder and Pridgen are both in the portal for the second time in a year. Very interesting.
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Post by Tom on Apr 22, 2021 14:01:28 GMT -5
Like Pridgen, looking towards his 3rd college in 3 years.
I wonder if the new NCAA transfer rule that says athletes get one transfer without having to sit a year counts this past season as the freebie or was that a special COVID exemption. I would hope they've done their due diligence, but these guys might have to sit for a season
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Post by timholycross on Apr 22, 2021 15:04:21 GMT -5
IIRC there were very positive reports about Drew's year at HC from an academic standpoint. I hope for his sake that's still the case; best I can say for the young man.
Hope the same can be said for Mr. Pridgen and all the rest of the "dearly departed".
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Post by WorcesterGray on Apr 22, 2021 15:10:31 GMT -5
Some interesting posts on the EMU board, recalling some earlier conversations about Lowder and Nelson on this one . . . I'm very glad RJ Johnson is our point guard.
"Damn, did all of these guys come to EMU to play the zone defense? lmfao
'No Zone, No Stay?'"
"My take, Stan [Heath, newly hired] is bringing discipline and structure and,accountability. That may not be the flavor of the day for current players. The turnaround well, it be awhile."
"Best of luck to the kid. Onward Upward know?
This team is going to be a complete line change - its going to be a REAL new team next year. should be interesting."
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Post by hchoops on Apr 23, 2021 14:51:30 GMT -5
Jordan Sechan leaves Bucknell for the College of Charleston
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Post by bison137 on Apr 23, 2021 15:11:49 GMT -5
Jordan Sechan leaves Bucknell for the College of Charleston He was a walk-on at Bucknell. Leaves as a graduate transfer.
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Post by hchoops on Apr 26, 2021 10:10:14 GMT -5
Portal trivia Only 3 power conference schools have no players currently in the portal. Name them.
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Post by hchoops on Apr 26, 2021 10:12:38 GMT -5
Jacob Radaker leaves Navy for Chattanooga
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