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Post by rgs318 on Mar 18, 2020 13:23:39 GMT -5
LMAO Thank you!
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Post by timholycross on Mar 18, 2020 13:26:36 GMT -5
Another good question is when will the first nomination for RP, Jr. or Gordie appear for this opening?😊 The BC equivalent of that is, of course, "Doug Flutie For Head Coach!" every time the job opens up. Also always worth a chuckle. The man's never picked up a whistle in his 56 years.
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 18, 2020 13:43:37 GMT -5
Doug has a better gig on television. One time I googled the Doug Flutie Jr. Foundation just to learn more about it because I am a big fan of Doug. The website included the Federal Tax forms that non-profits have to file. I was impressed that at least in the recent years (4-5 years ago) the majority of the cash donated actually came from Doug and Laurie Flutie, and the donations were substantial. A big difference from the Clinton or Trump Foundations, if I can be bipartisan while violating the no politics rule.
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Post by DiMarz on Mar 18, 2020 18:55:49 GMT -5
Levin's record at WA 139-21 during her first tenure as girls’ basketball coach from 2001-08, and she loves Holy Cross and Togo ... end of search One had to remember that Levin had Aliyah Boston on her team.....She was the #1 HS player last season, and stepped in at South Carolina at the 5 and averaged very close to a double double...That included a 25 rebound game and 10 block shots game.....At WA she was unstoppableon offense, and a huge force on D...Nobody at HC like her! Darren Bennett is a Fitchburg native, just north of Worcester..Before his stint at Skidmore, he was an assistant at Michigan I believe..
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Post by hcgrad94 on Mar 18, 2020 20:08:17 GMT -5
The head coaches from Amherst and Dartmouth aren't coming to HC. Out of curiosity why not the Amherst coach? Double the salary and chance to be Div I had to be attractive.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Mar 18, 2020 20:15:42 GMT -5
The head coaches from Amherst and Dartmouth aren't coming to HC. Out of curiosity why not the Amherst coach? Double the salary and chance to be Div I had to be attractive. -HC won't pay double what Amherst College is -when he leaves Amherst, it will be for a higher profile job than HC -school age kids who are in the very good Amherst system -overall quality of life in Amherst is > Worc
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Post by gks on Mar 19, 2020 9:20:20 GMT -5
Out of curiosity why not the Amherst coach? Double the salary and chance to be Div I had to be attractive. -HC won't pay double what Amherst College is -when he leaves Amherst, it will be for a higher profile job than HC -school age kids who are in the very good Amherst system -overall quality of life in Amherst is > Worc Agreed. And I wouldn't be surprised at those schools like Amherst, Williams, etc. pay just as much if not more. There's a reason coaches at those schools stay a long time.
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Post by timholycross on Mar 19, 2020 10:51:15 GMT -5
Where's PP to tell us what Gibbons made annually...that's a big tip off IMHO.
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Post by timholycross on Mar 19, 2020 10:54:47 GMT -5
Doug has a better gig on television. One time I googled the Doug Flutie Jr. Foundation just to learn more about it because I am a big fan of Doug. The website included the Federal Tax forms that non-profits have to file. I was impressed that at least in the recent years (4-5 years ago) the majority of the cash donated actually came from Doug and Laurie Flutie, and the donations were substantial. A big difference from the Clinton or Trump Foundations, if I can be bipartisan while violating the no politics rule. I always thought it was a nice advertisement for the public schools around here that 3 of his nephews played for Natick High (and two of them got scholarships to BC); and I bet if young Doug was a normal, healthy child he would have too.
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 19, 2020 11:03:24 GMT -5
And his daughter was a cheerleader for the Patriots.
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Post by hcgrad94 on Mar 19, 2020 12:34:41 GMT -5
Out of curiosity why not the Amherst coach? Double the salary and chance to be Div I had to be attractive. -HC won't pay double what Amherst College is -when he leaves Amherst, it will be for a higher profile job than HC -school age kids who are in the very good Amherst system -overall quality of life in Amherst is > Worc What does Amherst pay? $125-150k? You can still live in Amherst and coach at HC.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Mar 19, 2020 14:45:35 GMT -5
Where's PP to tell us what Gibbons made annually...that's a big tip off IMHO. Gibbons in his complaint asserted that HC was pushing him out the door because he was too expensive, and there were budget problems in the program. His claim was HC wanted to hire a new head coach who would receive a lower salary. I assume he was prepared to show his compensation level compared to the other PL head coaches. Generally, the higher the compensation is for the men's head coach, the higher the compensation for the women's head coach. Its a Title IX thing. Gibbons probably benefited, compensation-wise from his long tenure, seniority does usually count; and from having RW as the men's head coach. IIRC, RW during his last years at HC wore two hats, the other being an associate director of athletics. This was to help rationalize his compensation. Howie Carr of the Boston Herald would characterize that as a 'no show' job. Service academy coaches aside, I'll guess that Gibbons was second highest paid women's coach in the PL, BostU coach probably highest paid, because coaches in Boston and NYC seem to get a location bump because of the cost-of-living. AU coach might also get a bump.
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Post by HC92 on Mar 19, 2020 15:58:51 GMT -5
Willard was also paid in part out of private fundraising for that express purpose.
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Post by bison137 on Mar 19, 2020 16:26:23 GMT -5
Where's PP to tell us what Gibbons made annually...that's a big tip off IMHO. Service academy coaches aside, I'll guess that Gibbons was second highest paid women's coach in the PL, BostU coach probably highest paid, because coaches in Boston and NYC seem to get a location bump because of the cost-of-living. AU coach might also get a bump. I am almost certain Gibbons was making significantly more than Moseley at Boston U. The only PL coach who might have been paid at his level was Stefanie Pemper at Navy (recently fired), due both to her 12-year tenure and the fact that the NAAA until recently was awash in money. They overpaid for both Billy Lange and DeChellis. Army does not pay Magarity what Gibbons was making, nor does Lehigh with Troyan. AU's Gebbia is probably third. As recently as the 2014-15 fiscal year, Gibbons showed up as one of HC's highest paid employees on the 990, making $182k in base pay, $21k in retirement benefits, and $57k in non-taxable benefits. He did not make the 990 list the past two years, as a few professors passed him while he probably stopped getting raises years ago.
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Post by newfieguy74 on Mar 19, 2020 16:43:50 GMT -5
A few professors passed him? That got my attention. I have no problem with it but it makes me curious how much a full professor makes at HC. I wonder if one of them is Maurice Geracht of the English Dept., who taught me in the early 1970's and is apparently still there.
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Post by bison137 on Mar 19, 2020 16:58:00 GMT -5
A few professors passed him? That got my attention. I have no problem with it but it makes me curious how much a full professor makes at HC. I wonder if one of them is Maurice Geracht of the English Dept., who taught me in the early 1970's and is apparently still there. Three professors moved onto the most recent list - Susan Rodgers, James Kee, and Charles Weiss - although they may be one-time appearances. All three had base pay between $95k and $120k, but for some reason all got over $160k in "other reportable compensation". One professor - a different one - made the previous list, also due to massive other reportable compensation.
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Post by sarasota on Mar 19, 2020 16:59:50 GMT -5
AAUP, Amer Assoc of Univ Profs, website has all the data, but not friendly accessible.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Mar 19, 2020 18:07:14 GMT -5
Thanks much bison. I assume revenue from his summer camp would be excluded from the 990. Before/about the time Cooper began matriculating, his son was the camp 'commissioner' or some such title. A family enterprise. I was told that coaches of the men's side often use these camps to provide additional income for the assistant coaches, and the head coach doesn't financially benefit.
Someone making over $200K a year and living in/near Worcester is doing very well, given the local housing costs.
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 19, 2020 20:42:30 GMT -5
A few professors passed him? That got my attention. I have no problem with it but it makes me curious how much a full professor makes at HC. I wonder if one of them is Maurice Geracht of the English Dept., who taught me in the early 1970's and is apparently still there. Three professors moved onto the most recent list - Susan Rodgers, James Kee, and Charles Weiss - although they may be one-time appearances. All three had base pay between $95k and $120k, but for some reason all got over $160k in "other reportable compensation". One professor - a different one - made the previous list, also due to massive other reportable compensation. The "other reportable compensation" for Charles Weiss was the signing bonus we paid to lure him from Notre Dame.
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Post by timholycross on Mar 20, 2020 8:06:46 GMT -5
We paid him an extra "s" for sure!
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Post by alum on Mar 20, 2020 13:06:18 GMT -5
Coaches in the NESCAC don't earn that much. See the Amherst 990--no coaches on it. 990s.foundationcenter.org/990_pdf_archive/042/042103542/042103542_201606_990.pdfSee this article on NESCAC coaching salaries I found with a quick search. Average men's head coaches over all sports in 2014 were $53,000 and women's were $47,000. I would think that Amherst pays pretty well relative to other schools and that salaries have risen in recent years. This isn't to say that being a coach at Amherst isn't a good gig if you don't need the money of a D1 job because you have a spouse who does well or you already have enough money.
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Post by alum on Mar 20, 2020 13:08:12 GMT -5
Three professors moved onto the most recent list - Susan Rodgers, James Kee, and Charles Weiss - although they may be one-time appearances. All three had base pay between $95k and $120k, but for some reason all got over $160k in "other reportable compensation". One professor - a different one - made the previous list, also due to massive other reportable compensation. The "other reportable compensation" for Charles Weiss was the signing bonus we paid to lure him from Notre Dame. Weiss retired. Perhaps this was a payout of PTO time and some other compensation.
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 20, 2020 13:59:10 GMT -5
Probably. I got Professor Charles Weiss confused with former Patriots Offensive coordinator and Notre Dame Head Coach Charlie Weis.
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Post by timholycross on Mar 20, 2020 17:33:56 GMT -5
What used to happen at places like Amherst is the coach would have another position or two; if you added the salaries up, it would be a decent amount.
A friend of mine was the basketball coach at Bates for a year, which he was eminently qualified for. They also made him the golf coach, which he wasn't.
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Post by hcgrad94 on Mar 20, 2020 18:50:55 GMT -5
Out of curiosity why not the Amherst coach? Double the salary and chance to be Div I had to be attractive. -HC won't pay double what Amherst College is -when he leaves Amherst, it will be for a higher profile job than HC -school age kids who are in the very good Amherst system -overall quality of life in Amherst is > Worc Sorry what does Amherst pay? $125-150k?
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