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Post by efg72 on Mar 25, 2020 11:06:52 GMT -5
Perhaps some of the recruits (from comments by them, Nelson, and limited highlights) - Humphrey, Johnson and perhaps Malcolm are longer and quicker and can improve us defensively on the perimeter. I would hope we get Rogers in order to have the additional point. Also, wondering if this move towards Malcolm means BO is not close to deciding or opting for Campbell? Any rumors on Brown- it would be great to get another big body
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Post by rgs318 on Mar 25, 2020 11:19:03 GMT -5
I tend to be partial toward anyone named "Malcolm" (or Jehyve for that matter).
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Post by ericobeyyourthirst on Mar 25, 2020 11:26:02 GMT -5
"A look at D2 level" is not encouraging--perhaps he proved them all wrong with strong JuCo play?? Let’s keep our fingers crossed. I’m not as bullish on Nelson’s recruiting as others are. We will soon learn of his ability to bring talent to Worcester this fall. Why are you not as bullish on Nelson? Rabinovich and Martindale were two recruits we normally would have missed on since RW left. The rest of the class is TBD imho.
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Post by hchoops on Mar 25, 2020 11:28:07 GMT -5
Perhaps some of the recruits (from comments by them, Nelson, and limited highlights) - Humphrey, Johnson and perhaps Malcolm are longer and quicker and can improve us defensively on the perimeter. I would hope we get Rogers in order to have the additional point. Also, wondering if this move towards Malcolm means BO is not close to deciding or opting for Campbell? Any rumors on Brown- it would be great to get another big body BO ? Brown ? Memory is not what it used to be
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Post by efg72 on Mar 25, 2020 11:30:40 GMT -5
Bo Montgomery- Memphis SG Tyson Brown - Massanutten- PF
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Mar 25, 2020 12:24:01 GMT -5
Let’s keep our fingers crossed. I’m not as bullish on Nelson’s recruiting as others are. We will soon learn of his ability to bring talent to Worcester this fall. Why are you not as bullish on Nelson? Rabinovich and Martindale were two recruits we normally would have missed on since RW left. The rest of the class is TBD imho. Is the talent Nelson bringing in good relative to what we saw under Carmody and parts of Milan Brown, or good relative to the rest of the PL and other comparable mid major programs? Martindale definitely looks like the real deal. We will see.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Mar 25, 2020 14:29:34 GMT -5
Why are you not as bullish on Nelson? Rabinovich and Martindale were two recruits we normally would have missed on since RW left. The rest of the class is TBD imho. Is the talent Nelson bringing in good relative to what we saw under Carmody and parts of Milan Brown, or good relative to the rest of the PL and other comparable mid major programs? Martindale definitely looks like the real deal. We will see. You continue to contradict yourself on Nelson. In one breath you'll say things like you're not bullish about his recruiting or he doesn't coach defense, or he gave up on the season, etc. etc. (indicating you made up your mind), and the next breath you'll say things like "we will see" (which is the correct answer, because we don't truly know based on 8 months on the job with a fatally flawed roster).
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Post by billyball on Mar 26, 2020 0:49:32 GMT -5
Any update on where Lowder is headed?
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Post by sader81 on Mar 26, 2020 6:24:14 GMT -5
I would love to see you tell AB, or his mother for that matter, that his basketball talent is fatally flawed, with no keyboard to hide behind. Time to give it a rest.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Mar 26, 2020 7:05:01 GMT -5
I would love to see you tell AB, or his mother for that matter, that his basketball talent is fatally flawed, with no keyboard to hide behind. Time to give it a rest. Quit reaching. I said it was a fatally flawed ROSTER. I did not say anything about AB, who could be a nice piece as a 6th-7th man getting 20ish minutes per game.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Mar 26, 2020 9:15:05 GMT -5
Hey, Austin Butler is moving up! Didn't you have him as a D-3 caliber player not too long ago?
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Post by dadominate on Mar 26, 2020 9:56:05 GMT -5
Is the talent Nelson bringing in good relative to what we saw under Carmody and parts of Milan Brown, or good relative to the rest of the PL and other comparable mid major programs? Martindale definitely looks like the real deal. We will see. You continue to contradict yourself on Nelson. In one breath you'll say things like you're not bullish about his recruiting or he doesn't coach defense, or he gave up on the season, etc. etc. (indicating you made up your mind), and the next breath you'll say things like "we will see" (which is the correct answer, because we don't truly know based on 8 months on the job with a fatally flawed roster). there is zero contradiction in sov's post. martindale is an excellent recruit for the pl, probably our best in many years, and very encouraging for nelson's recruiting capability. the other recruits are solid but not terribly different than what we saw the carmody, brown, or willard eras. the defense last year was terrible with little adjustment made. what i think "we will see" means is that nelson may improve his defensive coaching - which you would have torched if it were carmody - and that he could land a high-impact transfer to fill out the roster holes that will have all of us signing his praises as an outstanding recruiter. there is nothing contradictory about seeing some positives, some negatives, and some areas for growth in nelson and any other coach, player, or administrator. it's called an objective evaluation.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Mar 26, 2020 10:30:53 GMT -5
BBC is an interesting poster.
He seems to have some good knowledge of the game, but I find it fascinating the lens in which he views Carmody and now Nelson. Every button Carmody pushed was the wrong one, while Nelson is above even a modicum of critique. Strange.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Mar 26, 2020 12:08:36 GMT -5
BBC is an interesting poster. He seems to have some good knowledge of the game, but I find it fascinating the lens in which he views Carmody and now Nelson. Every button Carmody pushed was the wrong one, while Nelson is above even a modicum of critique. Strange. Nice try. I have never said Nelson can't be critiqued. Just that he shouldn't be criticized for things that have been completely out of his control. For example, I don't think it's very wise to be making a judgement that he isn't a strong recruiter because of one class that had to be assembled after he was hired in July. It's especially unwise to make such a critique when that class appears to be a massive upgrade over the classes that we have been bringing in over the last 10 years, despite being behind the 8 ball with timing
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Post by timholycross on Mar 26, 2020 15:25:37 GMT -5
...but that class wasn't recruited by him, save for Reilly, was it? Not sure how much credit/blame can be assessed to him.
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Post by possum on Mar 26, 2020 16:20:45 GMT -5
Tim I think BBC is referring to incoming freshmen class not last years freshmen.
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Post by trimster on Mar 26, 2020 17:09:46 GMT -5
Tim I think BBC is referring to incoming freshmen class not last years freshmen. That is the way I read it. I think most kids commit in the fall of their senior year and most of them have been recruited by the school that signs them since the summer prior to their junior year. Maybe the prior staff had already begun recruiting most of the 4 kids who have committed but the current staff with the possible exception of Kennedy, was well behind the curve with the class of 2020. Based on the four commitments, I would say they have done quite well. Time will tell.
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Post by timholycross on Mar 26, 2020 18:54:39 GMT -5
Yeah, if that's what he meant I agree with it.
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