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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jun 2, 2021 6:25:33 GMT -5
I didn't think that federal employees could write book while on the job. I believe the prohibition applies to books written on government time and using government furnished equipment. There are also provisions about pre-publication clearance if the subject matter of the book relates to your government work. Pre-publication clearance also can be applied to books written after one leaves government; for a very recent example, see John Bolton. The general rules, IIRC, also differentiate between whether the subject matter relates to one's work in the government, or not. I could freely write a book "Reminiscing about college life in Worcester MA" (not that anyone would buy it) and not so freely about "How I got my Boris Yeltsin for Mayor t-shirt and other Russian tales". (I still have the t-shirt, BTW.)
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Post by timholycross on Jun 2, 2021 6:48:21 GMT -5
"We generally trust the grantee (China) to do what they say they're going to do".... Fauci
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Post by mm67 on Jun 2, 2021 6:50:35 GMT -5
"Good" to get our news from the Daily Mail, Britain's NY Post. Irony duly noted.
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Post by td128 on Jun 2, 2021 7:49:41 GMT -5
I understand that through the use of the FOIA (Freedom of Information Act), a trove of Dr. Fauci's emails covering January to June 2020 have been released. The Washington Post is one of the outlets running with this story. This is good. Americans and people worldwide deserve to know the truth across a range of topics and as much as possible in regard to the issues that have dominated our nation's landscape over these past number of months and years.
The pursuit of that virtue is the cornerstone of Jesuit education.
I would much prefer to hear directly from our fellow Crusader, both via emails and his subsequent comments, than those within the media -- across the entire spectrum -- who have been shown to be inherently biased as they go about deciphering the who, what, why, where, and how of this public health debacle.
Here is a link to the emails: assets.documentcloud.org/documents/20793561/leopold-nih-foia-anthony-fauci-emails.pdf
Let us not forget that transparency is the great disinfectant. I would hope those who frequent these parts will care to utilize this resource as a means of pursuing truth. I applaud those at WaPo and other outlets involved in filing the FOIA requests and obtaining this information.
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Post by sader1970 on Jun 2, 2021 8:24:34 GMT -5
td, I am sure you've read all 3,000+ pages. Got though just the first few pages and most seem innocuous. I just don't have time so feel free to post the damning ones that clearly demonstrate Fauci has embarrassed his fellow alums as all many of us have seen of him make us proud to be associated with him. In agreement transparency is critically important. What have we been missing?
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Post by hcpride on Jun 2, 2021 8:35:56 GMT -5
I understand that through the use of the FOIA (Freedom of Information Act), a trove of Dr. Fauci's emails covering January to June 2020 have been released. The Washington Post is one of the outlets running with this story. This is good. Americans and people worldwide deserve to know the truth across a range of topics and as much as possible in regard to the issues that have dominated our nation's landscape over these past number of months and years.
The pursuit of that virtue is the cornerstone of Jesuit education.
I would much prefer to hear directly from our fellow Crusader, both via emails and his subsequent comments, than those within the media -- across the entire spectrum -- who have been shown to be inherently biased as they go about deciphering the who, what, why, where, and how of this public health debacle.
Here is a link to the emails: assets.documentcloud.org/documents/20793561/leopold-nih-foia-anthony-fauci-emails.pdf
Let us not forget that transparency is the great disinfectant. I would hope those who frequent these parts will care to utilize this resource as a means of pursuing truth. I applaud those at WaPo and other outlets involved in filing the FOIA requests and obtaining this information. At the risk of pointing out the obvious, government workers on government email and government servers are well aware of FOIA and are generally very very prudent as to what they write. (And folks writing to them are well aware of the same.)
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Post by mm67 on Jun 2, 2021 11:36:35 GMT -5
Very proud to be in total agreement with Dr. Fauci especially in his views of the "crazies." He is a great man, much honored and beloved the world over except by an insignificant, ignorant relative few. He is truly the HC ideal "Person for Others."
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Post by purplehaze on Jun 2, 2021 12:38:32 GMT -5
Fauci will soon be canonized if it is proven he was infallible through the last 15 months - don't hold your breath - he erred on the side of caution to an extreme in many quarters but that was his approach which he was entitled to - now he says it's ok to de-mask yet so I see so many in my town wearing masks (I'm sure most are vaccinated) - he has created an unnecessary wave of precaution against the virus that he cannot reverse, even with the amazing vaccine - the outdoor pool at the community that I live in just announced (after board meeting) that because of 'covid liability risk' the pool will not open this summer - Stop the madness -
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jun 2, 2021 12:59:13 GMT -5
Not opening the community pool is truly insane. Perhaps it was a decision by the board members along the lines of: "I don't care how much it hurts the children, I won't take even a tiny chance of getting sued personally"
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Post by rickii on Jun 2, 2021 14:07:34 GMT -5
I didn't think that federal employees could write book while on the job. ROTFLMAO !!!! Some of our clowns in Congress have had enough time on the public's dime to produce multiple books. Cuomo and Fauci have been so busy with 'fighting Covid' they somehow found time to slap together books as well.
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Post by alum on Jun 2, 2021 14:10:32 GMT -5
Not opening the community pool is truly insane. Perhaps it was a decision by the board members along the lines of: "I don't care how much it hurts the children, I won't take even a tiny chance of getting sued personally" There have been valid reasons to wear masks and close businesses and recreational areas over the period of this pandemic. There are still valid reasons to do so for some people in some situations. The threat of getting sued for a pool ought to be at the bottom of the list because:
1. the community which maintains the pool probably has insurance 2. the board likely has separate insurance 3. with low levels of the disease and decent vaccination rates, the risk of transmission is low 4. even if someone develops the disease, due to the high rate of vaccination, the effects are likely to be too mild to justify bringing a claim 5. even if the injuries are severe enough to bring a claim, proof of where the illness was developed will be tough (as opposed to a workplace where someone went for 8 hours per day.) 6. the board could always require proof of vaccination or recent negative tests to allow at someone to use the pool.
I have served on a lot of boards. My experience in serving on boards of community organizations and from following local government and schools tells me that there are board members who use this issue of civil liability as an excuse to avoid doing things they don't want to do
These type of people are the personification of letting perfection be the enemy of good.
And besides, a much bigger worry for a board member of a group which runs a pool ought to be someone who is paralyzed diving into the shallow end. The damages there are significant enough for a lawyer to want to figure out a way to prove a failure to warn.
EDIT: I should have added an obvious number 7---If there is a flareup of covid in the community, you can just close the pool.
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Post by alum on Jun 2, 2021 14:12:34 GMT -5
I didn't think that federal employees could write book while on the job. ROTFLMAO !!!! Some of our clowns in Congress have had enough time on the public's dime to produce multiple books. Cuomo and Fauci have been so busy with 'fighting Covid' they somehow found time to slap together books as well. ROTFLMAO, indeed.
Turns out I was right, there is a law.
I am sure it does not apply to members of Congress because they are not "employees" nor obviously, is Cuomo.
I still don't know how this affects Fauci.
EDIT: Ok, I looked at the federal regulations. Within them, there is this explanatory example which comes very close.
Example 2: A scientist at the National Institutes of Health, whose principal area of Government research is the molecular basis of the development of cancer, could not be compensated for writing a book which focuses specifically on the research she conducts in her position at NIH, and thus, relates to her official duties. However, the scientist could receive compensation for writing or editing a textbook on the treatment of all cancers, provided that the book does not focus on recent research at NIH, but rather conveys scientific knowledge gleaned from the scientific community as a whole. The book might include a chapter, among many other chapters, which discusses the molecular basis of cancer development. Additionally, the book could contain brief discussions of recent developments in cancer treatment, even though some of those developments are derived from NIH research, as long as it is available to the public.
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Post by td128 on Jun 2, 2021 14:50:23 GMT -5
So much for our fellow Crusader's book. Being reported that it was pulled off Amazon and Barnes and Noble.
Perhaps it was related to his email regarding that masks should only be required for those actually infected by Covid-19.
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This is very interesting.
Maybe the science changed.
Not often that a trove of emails of this sort are released without an attempt to restrict or delay the release.
Best guess is that TF is being positioned as a fall guy of sorts for the subsequent release of other information.
Standard operating procedure by those in positions of power to protect even larger interests.
Transparency is the great and only disinfectant.
I personally would like TF to be interviewed by a fully credible journalist so that he can both be questioned and provided opportunity to respond accordingly.
Who’s looking out for the kids?
Serious question.
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Post by gks on Jun 2, 2021 15:42:02 GMT -5
I don't care what side of the aisle you're on.....
These emails being released will not be a good thing for the Doctor.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jun 2, 2021 16:24:13 GMT -5
Can the kindergartners take their masks off now?
Tough week for Fauci.
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Post by hcpride on Jun 2, 2021 16:38:00 GMT -5
One of the first criticisms levelled at Governor Cuomo regarding a book deal was that he was 'profiting off of the pandemic'. (Things have gone directly south for him since the book but that is neither here nor there.)
Dr. Fauci is certainly free to go the book route also but one has to wonder if he's getting the best advice.
FWIW I do see him retiring in the very near future.
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Post by alum on Jun 2, 2021 17:19:59 GMT -5
Can the kindergartners take their masks off now? Tough week for Fauci. Did you get a vaccine yet?
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jun 2, 2021 17:25:26 GMT -5
The email to Sylvia Burwell, who I know from before, is dated February 3, 2020. At that time, there were ZERO confirmed cases of COVID in the United States, where an individual had not traveled overseas. The first confirmed case in the US was January 21, 2020, of someone who had traveled to China. The next set of cases was aboard a cruise ship off Japan, on February 5, 2020. Many of the cruise ship cases who were citizens of the U.S. were repatriated to the U.S. The first case of suspected community transmission in the United States was February 26, 2020, 23 days AFTER the date of Fauci's email to Sylvia. (Fauci would have known Sylvia from several decades earlier.) abcnews.go.com/International/us-military-coronavirus-patient-cases-surge-italy-south/story?id=69225004To be sure, Fauci, in the weeks, following discouraged the general public from wearing masks. That was because there were not enough masks in the United States to equip health care personnel. On April 3, 2020, the Patriots flew an airplane to China to obtain masks for health care workers in Massachusetts. www.cnn.com/2020/04/02/us/coronavirus-patriots-plane-masks-spt-trnd/index.htmlThis was a full two months after the February 3, 2020 email to Sylvia. ___________________ Fast forward to the computational biologists at Temple University, who have compared several hundred thousand genomes of the virus trying to find the origin. From their computational analysis, the first three cases in Washington state in January, 2020, were not of Wuhan origin, but of a variant also found in three other regions of China in the same month, and in New York in March 2020 academic.oup.com/mbe/advance-article/doi/10.1093/molbev/msab118/6257226^^^ One has to download the pdf of the article for the referenced citation.
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Post by hceconhist on Jun 2, 2021 17:41:26 GMT -5
So much for our fellow Crusader's book. Being reported that it was pulled off Amazon and Barnes and Noble.
Perhaps it was related to his email regarding that masks should only be required for those actually infected by Covid-19.
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This is very interesting.
Maybe the science changed. Not often that a trove of emails of this sort are released without an attempt to restrict or delay the release. Best guess is that TF is being positioned as a fall guy of sorts for the subsequent release of other information. Standard operating procedure by those in positions of power to protect even larger interests. Transparency is the great and only disinfectant. I personally would like TF to be interviewed by a fully credible journalist so that he can both be questioned and provided opportunity to respond accordingly. Who’s looking out for the kids? Serious question. I think it's fair to say the messaging was muddled, and contradictory, largely because it was a relatively unknown virus. Also, Matt Walsh is hardly an objective observer of anything.
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Post by sader1970 on Jun 2, 2021 17:43:11 GMT -5
Phreek, why do you insist on trying to put things in context? You realize that ruins the narrative, right?
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Post by td128 on Jun 2, 2021 17:47:27 GMT -5
Rather prescient on behalf of our fellow alumnus:
Very interesting.
Would seem worthy of serious questioning in an attempt to pursue truth.
Could our children have been protected better given his rather compellingly accurate foresight?
Serious question.
Navigate accordingly.
P.S. i pose these questions in very serious fashion. I’m not looking to troll or bait anybody here in the least. This has obviously been a very challenging stretch of time for all concerned. I truly wish that our fellow alum would sit for an extensive no holds barred interview with a journalist of unquestioned integrity and credibility to probe all these pertinent topics.
Dare I say I think he owes the country that interview.
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Post by hceconhist on Jun 2, 2021 17:53:54 GMT -5
^ There's been commentary for awhile that an outbreak was possible. This is a rather innocuous comment, taken out of context by an actor known to more people for his role in a cartoon satire and amplified by an anti-vaccine actor.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jun 2, 2021 18:12:04 GMT -5
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Post by newfieguy74 on Jun 2, 2021 19:04:37 GMT -5
It's dismaying to see the ongoing venom aimed at Dr. Fauci. It's fine to ask questions about statements that he made but he is a scientist who was trying to help contain and explain a virulent spreading through the world like wildfire. Every statement, email, and facial expression is dissected, analyzed, and parsed. For anyone to suggest that he was motivated by politics or things more nefarious is unfair to a man who has devoted his life to public service.
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 2, 2021 20:35:01 GMT -5
I didn't think that federal employees could write book while on the job. I believe the prohibition applies to books written on government time and using government furnished equipment. There are also provisions about pre-publication clearance if the subject matter of the book relates to your government work. Pre-publication clearance also can be applied to books written after one leaves government; for a very recent example, see John Bolton. The general rules, IIRC, also differentiate between whether the subject matter relates to one's work in the government, or not. I could freely write a book "Reminiscing about college life in Worcester MA" (not that anyone would buy it) and not so freely about "How I got my Boris Yeltsin for Mayor t-shirt and other Russian tales". (I still have the t-shirt, BTW.) "I stood on the tank with Boris Yeltsin and all I got was this lousy T-shirt"😋
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