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Post by Chu Chu on Oct 19, 2020 13:38:02 GMT -5
hchoops -- when are you going to pay for NYT subscriptions for all of Crossports so we can read all the links you post? I already have mine! Very reasonable.
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Post by Chu Chu on Oct 19, 2020 13:40:16 GMT -5
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Post by lou on Oct 19, 2020 13:51:20 GMT -5
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Post by sader1970 on Oct 19, 2020 14:47:50 GMT -5
The transcript of the part of the LaPook-Fauci interview regarding threats:
Dr. Anthony Fauci: That's sad. The very fact that a public health message to save lives triggers such venom and animosity to me that it results in real and credible threats to my life and my safety. But it bothers me less than the hassling of my wife and my children. Dr. Jon LaPook: They've been threatened? Dr. Anthony Fauci: Yes. I mean, like, give me a break. Dr. Jon LaPook: Have there been death threats against... Dr. Anthony Fauci: Yes. Dr. Jon LaPook: ...you and your family? Dr. Anthony Fauci: Yes. Dr. Jon LaPook: All of you? Dr. Anthony Fauci: No, just me. Dr. Christine Grady: Mostly him. Dr. Anthony Fauci: Mostly me. But hassling. Dr. Christine Grady: Harassment against all of us. Dr. Anthony Fauci: Against the rest of the family.
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Post by hchoops on Oct 19, 2020 15:37:30 GMT -5
There may be more threats now Let’s hope that is all
NYT ”President Trump attacked Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, the nation’s leading infectious disease specialist, as “a disaster” on Monday and said, despite experts’ warnings that the nation was headed toward another peak in the coronavirus outbreak, that people were “tired” of hearing about the virus and wanted to be left alone.
The president issued his first broadsides against Dr. Fauci on Monday morning during a call with campaign staff that reporters listened in on, but then amplified them on Twitter and in remarks to reporters after landing in Arizona for a pair of rallies.
“People are tired of hearing Fauci and these idiots, all these idiots who got it wrong,” Mr. Trump said in the call with campaign staff, which began with his campaign manager, Bill Stepien, talking about the Republican ground game and other factors that he said supported Mr. Trump’s path to victory.
Mr. Trump also called Dr. Fauci a “nice” guy, but he said, “He’s been here for 500 years,” and added, “Every time he goes on television, there’s always a bomb, but there’s a bigger bomb if you fire him. This guy’s a disaster.”
The attack on Dr. Fauci comes as the United States has seen more coronavirus cases — over 8 million — and more deaths — nearly 220,000 — than any other nation in the world. The president’s advisers have tried to get him to lay off the infectious diseases specialist, who remains popular.
It also comes after Dr. Fauci, in an interview with “60 Minutes” that aired on Sunday, dismissed the president’s claim that the end of the pandemic was just around the corner. Dr. Fauci said during the interview that he was not surprised that Mr. Trump had contracted the virus, citing the failure to take basic precautions at White House events, including the announcement of Judge Amy Coney Barrett’s nomination to the Supreme Court.
“I was worried that he was going to get sick when I saw him in a completely precarious situation of crowded, no separation between people, and almost nobody wearing a mask,” Dr. Fauci said. “When I saw that on TV, I said, ‘Oh my goodness. Nothing good can come out of that, that’s got to be a problem.’ And then sure enough, it turned out to be a superspreader event.”
And after “60 Minutes” reported that the Trump administration had restricted Dr. Fauci’s media appearances, Mr. Trump struck back on Twitter. In a pair of tweets, he complained that Dr. Fauci “seems to get more airtime than anybody since the late, great, Bob Hope,” adding, “All I ask of Tony is that he make better decisions.” The president also criticized Dr. Fauci for “perhaps the worst first pitch in the history of Baseball!”
He continued his criticism of Dr. Fauci after landing in Arizona for the first of two scheduled rallies in the state, which is experiencing a rise in coronavirus cases.
Speaking to reporters after deplaning Air Force One, Mr. Trump called Dr. Fauci “a very nice man” but complained that he “loves being on television” and has made “a lot of bad calls.” Asked why he didn’t fire Dr. Fauci, Mr. Trump said, “He’s been there for about 350 years. I don’t want to hurt him.”
Mr. Trump’s attacks on Dr. Fauci led Senator Lamar Alexander of Tennessee to become the latest Republican to distance himself from the president. “Dr. Fauci is one of our country’s most distinguished public servants,” said Mr. Alexander, who is retiring this year. “He has served six presidents, starting with Ronald Reagan. If more Americans paid attention to his advice, we’d have fewer cases of Covid-19, and it would be safer to go back to school and back to work and out to eat.”
Mr. Trump has bristled at Dr. Fauci’s superior approval ratings. A poll released late last month by the nonpartisan Kaiser Family Foundation found that 68 percent of Americans trusted Dr. Fauci either a great deal or a fair amount to provide reliable information about the virus, while only 40 percent trusted Mr. Trump”.
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Post by hchoops on Oct 19, 2020 17:31:50 GMT -5
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Post by sader1970 on Oct 19, 2020 19:05:01 GMT -5
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Post by hchoops on Nov 1, 2020 23:51:00 GMT -5
The latest www.nytimes.com/live/2020/11/01/world/covid-19-coronavirus-updates?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage#were-in-for-a-whole-lot-of-hurt-faucis-comments-infuriate-the-white-housePresident Trump suggested at a campaign rally early Monday morning that he might fire Dr. Anthony S. Fauci after Election Day, further escalating the tension between his administration and the nation’s top infectious disease expert as the number of new coronavirus cases in the United States reaches record highs. Mr. Trump spoke well past midnight at the Miami-Opa Locka Executive Airport in Florida at his fifth and final rally of the day. At one point, he began reciting a familiar complaint about the news media’s continued coverage of the virus. His grousing led the crowd of his supporters to begin chanting, “Fire Fauci! Fire Fauci!” Mr. Trump listened in silence for a few moments before remarking: “Don’t tell anybody, but let me wait until a little bit after the election. I appreciate the advice.” Crowd chants “Fire Fauci” during Pres. Trump’s campaign rally in South Florida: “Don’t tell anybody, but let me wait until a little a bit after the election,” the president says in response. “I appreciate the advice.” t.co/rlgU1dKT2A pic.twitter.com/Mqa2RwbP3i — ABC News (@abc) November 2, 2020 The president’s aside came toward the end of what was a whirlwind day of campaigning across five states, and he spoke even as a local curfew aimed at curbing the spread of the coronavirus took effect at midnight. On Friday, more than 99,000 coronavirus infections were reported across the country, a single-day record. Nonetheless, Mr. Trump has maintained without citing evidence that the United States has “turned the corner” in fighting the virus, a point he reiterated at the rally early Monday. That assertion is strongly disputed by Dr. Fauci, who told the The Washington Post in an interview published on Saturday that the United States “could not possibly be positioned more poorly” as it heads into winter. A White House spokesman later called Dr. Fauci’s comments “unacceptable.” Former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr., the Democratic nominee, has said repeatedly that if he were to win the presidency, he is hopeful Dr. Fauci would remain in his role and serve in his administration. — Matt Stevens
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Post by Chu Chu on Nov 2, 2020 15:15:39 GMT -5
Sigh. This election can not come fast enough for me.
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Post by longsuffering on Nov 3, 2020 0:40:06 GMT -5
Sigh. This election can not come fast enough for me. It's now election day on the East Coast.
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Post by Tom on Nov 3, 2020 8:34:46 GMT -5
President Trump suggested at a campaign rally early Monday morning that he might fire Dr. Anthony S. Fauci after Election Day, further escalating the tension between his administration and the nation’s top infectious disease expert If it happens, does that count as an unemployment claim because of COVID?
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Nov 3, 2020 12:15:58 GMT -5
President Trump suggested at a campaign rally early Monday morning that he might fire Dr. Anthony S. Fauci after Election Day, further escalating the tension between his administration and the nation’s top infectious disease expert If it happens, does that count as an unemployment claim because of COVID? No claim allowed. Trump can't fire Fauci (which DJT already knows, but often he just says things), As Fauci holds a non-political position, Fauci could only be fired for cause. Trump could ask Francis Collins, Director of NIH, to re-assign Fauci to another comparable position at NIH, (The Director of NIH is a 'political' position in the sense that the Director is appointed by the President.) There has been speculation about what Collins would do if he was so requested, and the prevailing sense is that he would do an Elliot Richardson. I doubt it will ever come to that.
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 3, 2020 15:25:59 GMT -5
Not to get "political" but if Trump is threatening to fire Fauci (which we know he can't do himself), does this qualify under the title of this thread as actually "Honoring Dr. Fauci?" Quite a number of people consider it a badge of honor and . . . . . . there's been an awful lot of folks that have heard (usually via Twitter) "You're fired!"
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Post by ndgradbuthcfan on Nov 6, 2020 12:31:30 GMT -5
Not to get "political" but if Trump is threatening to fire Fauci (which we know he can't do himself), does this qualify under the title of this thread as actually "Honoring Dr. Fauci?" Quite a number of people consider it a badge of honor and . . . . . . there's been an awful lot of folks that have heard (usually via Twitter) "You're fired!" Answer is obviously "yes" and looking more and more like an academic question.
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 6, 2020 14:44:06 GMT -5
Regardless of the election outcome, if DJT wants to oust Fauci through underlings who are in a position to do so, he has plenty of time between now and 1/20/21.
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Post by hchoops on Nov 6, 2020 14:47:59 GMT -5
The only “underling” who could transfer Dr.F is his boss, Dr. Collins. It is more likely that Collins would resign rather than transfer his friend. Dr. F cannot be fired except for cause.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Nov 6, 2020 15:51:01 GMT -5
The only “underling” who could transfer Dr.F is his boss, Dr. Collins. It is more likely that Collins would resign rather than transfer his friend. Dr. F cannot be fired except for cause. That's correct. I believe Dr. Collins is the only person at NIH whose appointment is Senate-confirmed and thus the only person at NIH who could take such an action. If Collins were to resign, I am not sure who would legally be authorized to act against Fauci. In the case of the Saturday Night Massacre, Richardson and Ruckelshaus resigned rather than fire Cox. Bork was sworn in as Acting attorney General, and he fired Cox (illegally, as it turned out). Bork also said he intended to resign after firing Cox, but was persuaded not to do so by Richardson and Ruckelshaus.
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 6, 2020 16:32:01 GMT -5
I understand the Collins connection to Fauci. However, I believe if Collins resigned or was fired for failure to fire Fauci, the acting replacement for Collins probably would fire Fauci. Failing that, the next person up comes in and fires Fauci and so on until someone is willing to do so. "Cause" can be manufactured easily enough. Having someone "legally" authorized to do the deed is just a detail. DJT's anger meter goes a lot higher than RMN's does.
Of course anyone forced to resign or be fired, including Fauci, would likely be asked to return after 1/20/21.
FWIW, I am pretty sure Tony Fauci isn't losing any sleep over the possibilities but probably still losing lots of sleep over the number of coronavirus cases, hospitalizations and deaths knowing many of them could have been prevented.
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Post by rgs318 on Nov 6, 2020 16:45:18 GMT -5
Some, probably. Many? I am not so sure about that.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Nov 6, 2020 17:18:51 GMT -5
Boston Globe from New York Times
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 6, 2020 19:04:52 GMT -5
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Post by longsuffering on Nov 6, 2020 22:22:41 GMT -5
Not only is the ice thin, it was 65 degrees today. Hopefully the Dean is glued to the TV during the extended vote counting.🙂
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Nov 7, 2020 4:26:22 GMT -5
You guys remind me of a football player tippy toeing down the sidelines, trying his best not to step out of bounds.
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Post by Tom on Nov 7, 2020 8:41:06 GMT -5
The only “underling” who could transfer Dr.F is his boss, Dr. Collins. It is more likely that Collins would resign rather than transfer his friend. Dr. F cannot be fired except for cause. Our world is really upside down if the only person who can transfer Dr Fauci is the Poet Laureate. Seems a little out of Collins '63 realm of expertise.
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Post by hcpride on Nov 12, 2020 10:27:32 GMT -5
Dr. Fauci sounded quite positive and quite optimistic today on TV: NEW YORK -- Dr. Anthony Fauci has a hopeful message for those suffering from COVID-19 fatigue: "The cavalry is coming" in the form of a vaccine and "help is really on the way."
Fauci told ABC's "Good Morning America" on Thursday that vaccines being developed "are going to have a major positive impact" once they start being deployed in December and early into next year. He says he hopes by April, May and June "the ordinary citizen should be able to get" a vaccine.
In the meantime, Fauci says there are fundamental things Americans can do to stem the spread of the deadly virus. They include "universal and uniform" wearing of masks, avoiding crowds, keeping social distance and washing hands. He says that sounds simple against a very difficult challenge but "it really does make a difference."abc30.com/fauci-coronavirus-covid-vaccine/7892864/
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