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Post by longsuffering on Mar 30, 2020 9:27:45 GMT -5
hcpride, I agree with your point of view. Reopening to students and faculty on campus is clearly the first step. However, once the campus is open, adding things that help restore a feeling of "normal" is an important next step. Sports could be a part of that. There is an old line in a song ("Big Yellow Taxi" IIRC) "you don't know want you got till it's gone." That could be the case here. I hope they don't pave paradise (Fitton Field) and put up a parking lot.🙂
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Post by rgs318 on Mar 30, 2020 9:42:21 GMT -5
That road map seems to be based on studies and recommendations for crisis response. The four parts of that are: 1. preparation - developing responses to use should a crisis occur 2. response - implementing that strategy during the crisis (where the country is presently), as is HC 3. recovery - adressing the effects of the crisis after the fact 4. evaluation of the previous three steps which leads to preparation for the next time...there is always a "next time"
That last step requires an objective evaluation of how well things worked for all involved. (Politics, BTW, can really screw up this last, very important part of the process.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2020 17:53:34 GMT -5
Given the response thus far, I can't see college football starting in the Fall. The media will build up fears surrounding the potential "second wave" of Covid-19 which they will compare to the Spanish Flu of 1918.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Apr 2, 2020 7:35:47 GMT -5
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Post by hc2020 on Apr 2, 2020 21:56:23 GMT -5
Given the response thus far, I can't see college football starting in the Fall. The media will build up fears surrounding the potential "second wave" of Covid-19 which they will compare to the Spanish Flu of 1918. I agree that this all looks rather ominous. I think it is highly questionable whether campuses even open at the start of the fall term. Even if that happens, I suspect that football games may be played in empty stadiums if they are played at all. Rather depressing to think about.
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 2, 2020 23:09:11 GMT -5
I just posted about assistant coaches in the MBB section. I'm not sure when football assistant coaching contracts are up for renewal, but it could be a tough decision for FCS and lower division colleges to commit to a full staff until it is clear a full revenue season will be played and a full revenue academic year will be held.
Fortunately the two trillion dollar stimulus bill significantly enhances unemployment compensation. It might be foolish for smaller colleges to try to compete with that.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Apr 3, 2020 13:41:41 GMT -5
Given the response thus far, I can't see college football starting in the Fall. The media will build up fears surrounding the potential "second wave" of Covid-19 which they will compare to the Spanish Flu of 1918. "This will pass, though with many wounds. We all will find our own touchstones that make the future seem as exciting and expansive as the present seems disturbing and confined. Some of us will rely on the certainty that we will be able to say, “Baseball is back!” Football, too. www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/03/18/baseball-has-survived-pandemics-before-desperate-fans-that-counts/
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Post by sarasota on Apr 3, 2020 13:44:33 GMT -5
You mean there are still folks who follow baseball?
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Apr 3, 2020 14:42:43 GMT -5
You mean there are still folks who follow baseball? It's a real thinking man's sport. I love it
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Post by hc2020 on Apr 3, 2020 15:53:29 GMT -5
This is a rather ominous trend:
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Apr 3, 2020 16:10:05 GMT -5
This is a rather ominous trend: How can you rope and brand cattle on line?
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Post by hchoops on Apr 3, 2020 16:11:36 GMT -5
Video games can simulate anything
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Apr 4, 2020 6:30:37 GMT -5
You mean there are still folks who follow baseball? Real men? Yep.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2020 9:44:14 GMT -5
Here are some things I was thinking about: 1. LSU had $52 million in profit from football last year vs $23 million in collective losses from all the other sports combined. Obviously, LSU was the National Champion and outlier, but think about how shutting down football will impact athletic departments at larger, FBS schools. 2. Will all coaches have to file for unemployment? How will that work? 3. If schools extend another year of "eligibility" to athletes, they will be effectively paying for spring athletes from 2020 and fall athletes from 2020 to go to school for another year? Will they obtain a "masters degree" or "second major" during this additional year? How will they afford that if the endowment is getting crushed? 4. Disney (ESPN) would obviously go bankrupt without sports and their parks closed in the Fall?
The trickle down effect from college football being cancelled is beyond comprehension.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Apr 4, 2020 10:49:43 GMT -5
Aren’t the coaches under contract? Would those contracts have a “cancellation of season” clause? I can’t imagine Nick Saban is worried at all about getting his 600 or 700K every month right on time.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2020 12:04:12 GMT -5
Aren’t the coaches under contract? Would those contracts have a “cancellation of season” clause? I can’t imagine Nick Saban is worried at all about getting his 600 or 700K every month right on time. I am sure head coaches have protections in place in their contracts, but assistant coaches? Not sure.
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Post by purplehaze on Apr 4, 2020 13:12:48 GMT -5
I would be surprised if there are not layoffs in our athletic association staff which is more than adequate even in good times
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Post by hc2020 on Apr 4, 2020 14:15:30 GMT -5
More concerning comments about the 2020 season:
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Post by hc2020 on Apr 4, 2020 14:31:27 GMT -5
But there is also this as well:
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Post by lou on Apr 4, 2020 14:51:41 GMT -5
Another hunch, or based on what?
My opinion also, no vaccine, no football
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Post by hc2020 on Apr 4, 2020 15:05:39 GMT -5
Ultimately, the decision to have a football season will be made will likely be made on the state level. If social distancing is still in place, governors will be hard pressed to permit gatherings of tens of thousands of people:
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 4, 2020 15:12:38 GMT -5
But there is also this as well: He also said he wanted Churches packed shoulder to shoulder on Easter. But that was surely a dog whistle to his base, not the result of any science or medicine.
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Post by hc2020 on Apr 4, 2020 15:13:38 GMT -5
Aren’t the coaches under contract? Would those contracts have a “cancellation of season” clause? I can’t imagine Nick Saban is worried at all about getting his 600 or 700K every month right on time. I think we all need to begin familiarizing ourselves with the term “force majuere” which from a legal standpoint is defined as “unforeseeable circumstances that prevent someone from fulfilling a contract.” I suspect this will become a common defense that is employed in an attempt to disavow contractual obligations.
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Post by HC92 on Apr 4, 2020 15:15:22 GMT -5
I don’t think anyone has a clue what’s going to happen next week never mind in September.
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Post by rgs318 on Apr 4, 2020 15:20:33 GMT -5
longsuffering, As I am sure you know, human beings can't hear dog whistles, are you saying the President's backers are dogs and/or bitches? That "dog whistle" comment is insulting and seldom seen outside of left wing talking points.
The unsupported optimism expressed by the President may have been well-intentioned, but it was seen as wrong by many people (including some of his supporters) almost as soon as he said it.
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