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Post by nycrusader2010 on Apr 5, 2020 10:55:59 GMT -5
NY Governor's conference: "I called the President today and told him we need more _______." Rinse, repeat. Every political press conference has that element to it...sadly. Supply-side economics is simple. "Stuff" doesn't merely get produced because a politician with an exaggerated Italian accent stamps his feet and demands more of that particular good.
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Post by hchoops on Apr 5, 2020 11:08:27 GMT -5
If you are referring to Cuomo, The accent is more NYC than Italian, but he has done a remarkably consistent job in clearly stating the current situation of the virus to all New Yorkers. His emphasis on rolling support for the areas most in need makes a great deal of sense. And I was not a big supporter of his before this crisis.
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Post by rgs318 on Apr 5, 2020 11:09:13 GMT -5
I understand that, but if you watch the NY and NJ governors' press conference that statement is made at every one. Today Gov. Cuomo thanked those states that have helped NYS and promised to do the same for other states when the "wave" crests in NY and starts elsewhere. There are supplies in storage in some states right now. If they are willing to share (as Oregon did for NY) they should be able to receive help from NYS when their time comes down the road.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Apr 5, 2020 11:17:12 GMT -5
Didnt intend to knock Cuomo so much as throw out a little humor. I think hes managed to best of his ability during this crisis.
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Post by hcpride on Apr 5, 2020 14:46:17 GMT -5
Dr. Fauci also said on January 21st that Americans didn’t have anything to worry about regarding this virus. Experts aren't always right. We should listen to them, but not follow them blindly. Remember when WHO (as corrupt as they come, but that's a topic for another day), said the virus wasn't human to human? A lot of Americans will have to die very quickly in order to reach that 200,000 number the models told us would happen. Dr Fauci has since explained that he and other public health experts were faked out by the early China data/reports and that is why he (and they) were simply wrong. And he blames China for this. Dr. Fauci also explained that this cost us the first and best chance of avoiding much of the virus' impact because he (and other public health experts worldwide) would have advised an immediate shutdown of all China-related travel/visitors. And the rest, as they say, is history.
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Post by hcpride on Apr 5, 2020 19:04:51 GMT -5
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Post by timholycross on Apr 5, 2020 19:13:20 GMT -5
What would be the risk for the 150- 200 minimum people playing, staffing, and broadcasting these pro games.? And certainly the players and staffers would be in consistent close contact with each other the players, very close. I think there's a lot of sequestering and constant testing that has to go on to succeed doing this. And it involves the players, the coaching staffs, the medical staffs and the support people (the people working on the fields, the tv people, many, many jobs that would be needed, even w/o fans). I don't happen to think pro football is the sport to try this on; something like pro basketball is a much smaller number of people involved.
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Post by HC92 on Apr 5, 2020 19:31:22 GMT -5
Spring 2021 idea is a good one. Rather that than empty stadia in the Fall if those are my two choices.
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Post by efg72 on Apr 5, 2020 19:37:43 GMT -5
Think we will go with a fall season, but it might be an abbreviated season
This is about the physical and mental health of the nation. We should all be focused on the impact of the virus, but the mental health impact may very well claim more lives
Submitting an op-Ed this week on COVID-19-Mental Health of the world without sports
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Post by hchoops on Apr 5, 2020 19:49:49 GMT -5
Think we will go with a fall season, but it might be an abbreviated season This is about the physical and mental health of the nation. We should all be focused on the impact of the virus, but the mental health impact may very well claim more lives So what would be the cause of death ? There would be 100,000+ deaths due to mental health ?
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 5, 2020 19:56:10 GMT -5
PTSD
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Post by efg72 on Apr 5, 2020 19:59:57 GMT -5
Addiction, abuse, suicide, depression, anxiety, loneliness, and isolation and other mental health issues —there will be connective tissue to each of these issues and deaths for years to come.
Go to Sandy and Katrina and look at the longer term impact these disasters have on deaths in the communities-they far outnumber the deaths from the disasters We did a report on those and will send it your way
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Post by efg72 on Apr 5, 2020 20:01:24 GMT -5
Think we will go with a fall season, but it might be an abbreviated season This is about the physical and mental health of the nation. We should all be focused on the impact of the virus, but the mental health impact may very well claim more lives So what would be the cause of death ? There would be 100,000+ deaths due to mental health ? Significantly morethan 100,000 deaths each year will be connected to mental issues coming out of this pandemic
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Apr 5, 2020 20:07:19 GMT -5
With unemployment continuing to rise, the ripple effect because of this will be catastrophic if America continues to stay shut down. It would be worse than the mortality in the immediate future.
How do we know that there will be 100,000 deaths, by the way?
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Post by efg72 on Apr 5, 2020 20:17:53 GMT -5
PP and Dado understand the economics far better and they can give a much better explanation from my understanding Models for theUS show 81k, but that has multiple variables and assumptions that get changed or adjusted. Global numbers will be significant, but the models should be more accurate in another 30 days as more complete data from the disease are captured the update covid19.healthdata.org/projections
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2020 22:01:39 GMT -5
Addiction, abuse, suicide, depression, anxiety, loneliness, and isolation and other mental health issues —there will be connective tissue to each of these issues and deaths for years to come. Go to Sandy and Katrina and look at the longer term impact these disasters have on deaths in the communities-they far outnumber the deaths from the disasters We did a report on those and will send it your way In full disclosure, one of my neighbors hung himself off his front porch three days into the shut down. I've read contradicting studies, some stating that mortality rate actually decreases in times of difficulty (recession) as opposed to boom years. It'll be interesting to see how it all plays out.
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Post by efg72 on Apr 5, 2020 22:05:18 GMT -5
So sorry for his passing and for the loss his family, friends and neighbors like you must feel today.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Apr 5, 2020 22:13:27 GMT -5
His loss is incredibly sad.
I worry about friends who I perceive may be turning to forms of self medication, especially alcohol, when they see it as the quickest way to relieve there emotional anxiety.
These are times that call for inner strength, and to be very careful.
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Post by hchoops on Apr 5, 2020 22:19:28 GMT -5
Reports are that Liquor stores’ deliveries are thriving
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Apr 5, 2020 22:51:46 GMT -5
Reports are that Liquor stores’ deliveries are thriving I believe liquor sales in the US typically break about 80-20 (volume, not dollars) for off-premise (bought in the store for home consumption) versus on-premise (consumed in a bar, restaurant, etc). That varies by brand (premium brands skew higher than 20% on-premise) and by market (e.g. lower on-premise sales in the South and other areas without a tavern culture). I think liquor stores sales are booming because (1) people are replacing their on-premise consumption with off-premise. For example, a guy who likes to have two Jack Daniel's on the rocks at a bar after work while traffic subsides now has no bar to go to or is working from home anyways. So he enjoys his two drinks at home. (2) some people no doubt fear that liquor stores will be closed and so they are stocking up their home pantries before they get shut out. Unlike the toilet paper hoarding, however, beer, wine and spirits have "expandable consumption" and some people may drink more at home since prices are much lower (huge upcharge on beverage alcohol on-premise) and you also are not driving.
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 6, 2020 0:36:12 GMT -5
Sorry for your neighbor and the shock to you 43. That's a rough one.
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Post by rgs318 on Apr 6, 2020 6:40:49 GMT -5
May your neighbor rest in peace with his soul finding rest.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Apr 6, 2020 8:11:16 GMT -5
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Apr 6, 2020 8:17:33 GMT -5
I think the biggest question, however, is WHEN will colleges allow students back on campus. August is rapidly approaching...
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Post by Ray on Apr 6, 2020 8:48:02 GMT -5
longsuffering, As I am sure you know, human beings can't hear dog whistles, are you saying the President's backers are dogs and/or bitches? That "dog whistle" comment is insulting and seldom seen outside of left wing talking points.
Rob, might be worth reading up on the history of the term. It's far from limited to one party/ideology.
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