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Post by hchoops on Mar 28, 2020 8:59:56 GMT -5
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Post by hchoops on Mar 28, 2020 9:01:20 GMT -5
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Post by HC92 on Mar 28, 2020 9:02:16 GMT -5
Bush league dunk by one of his teammates at the end of the Ok St game.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Mar 28, 2020 9:16:05 GMT -5
Rather see highlights from Holy Cross tournament games, not Florida.
Were big plays in the Kentucky, Kansas, Marquette, and Southern Illinois games not in the archives?
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Post by sarasota on Mar 28, 2020 9:26:13 GMT -5
Based on videos I have seen, Nelson seems to have been an Iverson type of player. It must have been exciting to follow his playing career. I think these videos of his Florida days could be helpful in recruiting. As I have said elsewhere, his prominence as a player is unprecedented among HC head bball coaches and perhaps not that common among all college bball head coaches. He didn't just play at a high level. He played at the highest collegiate level.
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Post by WorcesterGray on Mar 28, 2020 10:41:58 GMT -5
Not much correlation between being a very good player at a high level and being a good coach.
How's Chris Mullin doing nowadays?
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 28, 2020 10:56:29 GMT -5
I think Pitino was a decent player at UMass. Apparently he and Ralph would play one on one at the HS Ralph coached at when Rick was on a recruiting trip.
But often the bench player who hangs on due to his study of the game more than his athletic skill makes an excellent coach.
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Post by HC92 on Mar 28, 2020 11:08:59 GMT -5
Not much correlation between being a very good player at a high level and being a good coach. How's Chris Mullin doing nowadays? The hypothesis would be that it can help with recruiting, not actual coaching. Not sure the hypothesis holds water but that’s what it is.
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Post by HC92 on Mar 28, 2020 11:10:10 GMT -5
I think Pitino was a decent player at UMass. Apparently he and Ralph would play one on one at the HS Ralph coached at when Rick was on a recruiting trip. But often the bench player who hangs on due to his study of the game more than his athletic skill makes an excellent coach. Mark Daigneault was a student manager in college. Now he sits on the bench of the OKC Thunder.
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Post by hchoops on Mar 28, 2020 11:12:32 GMT -5
I think Pitino was a decent player at UMass. Apparently he and Ralph would play one on one at the HS Ralph coached at when Rick was on a recruiting trip. Ralph coached Pitino at St. Dominic’s in Oyster Bay, Long Island.
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 28, 2020 11:27:25 GMT -5
OK, that's where the relationship started. I had it slightly off. That better explains their lifetime bond.
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Post by WorcesterGray on Mar 28, 2020 11:35:22 GMT -5
OK, that's where the relationship started. I had it slightly off. That better explains their lifetime bond. Another similarity - Pitino averaged 4 points a game as a college player, Ralph 3.5.
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 28, 2020 11:42:28 GMT -5
Their one on one games must have taken forever.🙂
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Post by sarasota on Mar 28, 2020 12:47:53 GMT -5
Not much correlation between being a very good player at a high level and being a good coach. How's Chris Mullin doing nowadays? Was Mullin a MacDonald's All American in high school? How many times did he play in Final Four? Hpw many times was he the high scorer in college against Duke? His NBA experience is irrelevant. I'm talking COLLEGE. And "all" "every" etc. are words I try to avoid. In fact, I never said there was a "correlation." It wasn't even implied in my post. All I talked about was RECRUITING. Please try to read more carefully. Thanks.
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Post by hchoops on Mar 28, 2020 12:57:23 GMT -5
Big East Player of the Year three times, All American three times, played in one Final Four
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Mar 28, 2020 13:44:29 GMT -5
Recruiting is, in my opinion, dependent on the coach's salesmanship. I don't think there's much correlation between the coach's playing ability and his recruiting ability unless, perhaps, it's an extraordinarily famous player, e.g. Michael Jordan's fame, if he were a college coach, might influence some HS players. There are many examples of players of modest accomplishment who became great recruiters: Nick Saban, Lou Holtz, Bobby Knight, Mike K, likely because they were persuasive salesmen for their programs. I think there are many coaches whose players have very little idea about the coach's playing history.
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Post by rgs318 on Mar 28, 2020 13:50:42 GMT -5
I think Pitino was a decent player at UMass. Apparently he and Ralph would play one on one at the HS Ralph coached at when Rick was on a recruiting trip. But often the bench player who hangs on due to his study of the game more than his athletic skill makes an excellent coach. Mark Daigneault was a student manager in college. Now he sits on the bench of the OKC Thunder. Was it in college that he learned how to sit on a bench while a manager?
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 28, 2020 15:39:36 GMT -5
Positive thought MM. Steven Stills concurs: "Love the one you're with."
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Post by sarasota on Mar 28, 2020 16:15:03 GMT -5
Positive thought MM. Steven Stills concurs: "Love the one you're with." one of the greatest tunes
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Post by DiMarz on Mar 28, 2020 18:32:52 GMT -5
Just heard that one on the radio today!
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Post by DiMarz on Mar 28, 2020 18:33:11 GMT -5
Just heard that one on the radio today!
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Mar 28, 2020 19:27:35 GMT -5
Coach Nelson was a big time player, competing at a level that none of the HC coaches or teams have competed in recent years.
He was an assistant at Marquette certainly a program on a higher level than HC has been for 60 years, One could reasonably argue that Coach Nelson is a b-ball "blue blood." Some might say that the coaching position at a high academic school, named Holy Cross might present its own set of peculiar difficulties. AD Blossom has thought outside the box of local/regional b-ball. He has gone big and bold. Hopefully, Coach Nelson will live up to his promise, successfully recruit players to a small very Catholic sounding college and coach the hell out of his guys. I am optimistic. I hope that all from our varied vantage points will give this guy a chance to show his stuff. Perhaps you're speaking to head coaches, but Freddie Owens played in a lot of big-time games at Wisc.
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Post by rgs318 on Mar 28, 2020 19:51:13 GMT -5
If you are including all the staff, don't forget the games RJ Evans played for UConn.
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Post by hcpride on Mar 28, 2020 20:52:59 GMT -5
I think Pitino was a decent player at UMass. Apparently he and Ralph would play one on one at the HS Ralph coached at when Rick was on a recruiting trip. Ralph coached Pitino at St. Dominic’s in Oyster Bay, Long Island. I know Ralph coached at St Dom's and I know Rick played at St. Dom's but I did not know Ralph coached Rick. (I thought Ralph started coaching there after Rick left). Ralph's big teams at Doms were quite something - it wasn't just Kempton and a bunch of stiffs.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Mar 28, 2020 21:34:03 GMT -5
I think Pitino was a decent player at UMass. Apparently he and Ralph would play one on one at the HS Ralph coached at when Rick was on a recruiting trip. Ralph coached Pitino at St. Dominic’s in Oyster Bay, Long Island. No he didn't. Pitino was at UMass the year before Ralph started at St. Dom.
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