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Albany
Sept 18, 2016 5:57:41 GMT -5
Post by jflare on Sept 18, 2016 5:57:41 GMT -5
Bottom line is when we closed to 31-21 Albany just ran the ball down our throats for two drives and two TDs to put the game away. We knew they were going to run the ball and they did it to about the tune of 8 yards per carry on their last two drives. We can't run the ball at all and we cannot stop anyone from running against us. Huge holes right up the gut. Case closed. This is the problem.... Fix it...... Tackling, strength and lack of speed on D as Tower Purple says are spot on !!!!
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Albany
Sept 18, 2016 6:02:15 GMT -5
Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Sept 18, 2016 6:02:15 GMT -5
In looking at the game stats, I had to blink twice.
HC had 31 first downs to Albany's 17. HC had 471 net yards to Albany's 403. HC led in time of possession.
Those are not typical stats for a team that lost by 17 points.
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Albany
Sept 18, 2016 6:30:43 GMT -5
Post by crusader1970 on Sept 18, 2016 6:30:43 GMT -5
In looking at the game stats, I had to blink twice. HC had 31 first downs to Albany's 17. HC had 471 net yards to Albany's 403. HC led in time of possession. Those are not typical stats for a team that lost by 17 points. Just goes to show you how important turnovers are. Many times they are the most important stat of the game....and that certainly was the case last evening.
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Post by rgs318 on Sept 18, 2016 6:47:34 GMT -5
In looking at the game stats, I had to blink twice. HC had 31 first downs to Albany's 17. HC had 471 net yards to Albany's 403. HC led in time of possession. Those are not typical stats for a team that lost by 17 points. Just goes to show you how important turnovers are. Many times they are the most important stat of the game....and that certainly was the case last evening. It was also the case when Albany beat Buffalo. These fumbles were not just "accidents." When a team causes and recovers that many fumbles it is something they work on and become very good at. As to the stats, we may have some of the best offensive stats of any losing team. I am afraid the Ivies will give HC a real thumping unless there is a major change somewhere in our defensive game plans.
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wstruz71
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Albany
Sept 18, 2016 6:58:16 GMT -5
Post by wstruz71 on Sept 18, 2016 6:58:16 GMT -5
I agree turnovers are important. However, another case in point, where is the defense? Holy Cross is not going to win football games giving up 45 points a game. This is a major problem year after year, and nothing is being done to correct the problem.
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Post by rgs318 on Sept 18, 2016 7:11:26 GMT -5
I agree turnovers are important. However, another case in point, where is the defense? Holy Cross is not going to win football games giving up 45 points a game. This is a major problem year after year, and nothing is being done to correct the problem. Welcome to CROSSPOSTS, wstruz71. I would have to disagree slightly. Things are being done, but they do not seem to be working. Listen to CTG's post-game interview. It sounded like many CROSSPORTS' posts. GTC said (paraphrasing slightly) - We need to build a strong running game and to improve our run defense. No one who watches HC Can be unaware of our weaknesses and they are being exploited. Some called for more plays with Miles Alexander, our frosh RB...we saw that at Albany and he averaged over 5 yards a carry. That s a first step...a small one but in the right direction. Hopefully our injured players can return (at least fr the PL games). As to Dartmouth, remember when some were worried that the Big Green might end the series with HC because they could not compete? How times seem to have changed. This week Dartmouth is a 10 point favorites at Holy Cross (Massey sees it as 31-21). A return to Fitton after two thumpings by ranked opponents is a chance to show improvement (a 25% chance according to Massey). A win this week and much of what of is being said right now may be forgotten. Another beating (not just a loss...a "beating") and things will be pretty grim against Lafayette as HC starts the PL season.
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Albany
Sept 18, 2016 7:32:48 GMT -5
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Post by HC92 on Sept 18, 2016 7:32:48 GMT -5
On 43 rushing attempts, Albany had 9 rushes of at least 10 yards (10, 14, 40, 17, 10, 14, 22, 12 and 14 yards). That's 21%. On 38 rushing attempts, we had two plays of at least 10 yards (13 and 14). That's 5%. Furthermore, the two big runs came on our 2nd run of the game and then on our final run of the game when they were in a prevent defense up by 17 with under a minute to play.
On 12 passing attempts, they had 5 go for more than 10 yards (24, 41, 14, 48 and 34 yards). That's 42%. On 55 passing attempts, we had 15 go for at least 10 yards (25, 11, 15, 18, 12, 14, 20, 18, 13, 13, 16, 15, 16, 15 and 25 yards). That's 27%.
When you combine the two, Albany converted 25.5% of its rush and pass attempts for at least 10 yards. We converted 18.3%. And that was in a game where we were trailing by double digits for a significant majority of the game. Most of our big plays came in the second half.
Not sure what this tells us but, sitting there in the stadium, it felt like we were getting gashed for big plays over and over and over.
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wstruz71
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Albany
Sept 18, 2016 7:55:44 GMT -5
Post by wstruz71 on Sept 18, 2016 7:55:44 GMT -5
I agree turnovers are important. However, another case in point, where is the defense? Holy Cross is not going to win football games giving up 45 points a game. This is a major problem year after year, and nothing is being done to correct the problem. Welcome to CROSSPOSTS, wstruz71. I would have to disagree slightly. Things are being done, but they do not seem to be working. Listen to CTG's post-game interview. It sounded like many CROSSPORTS' posts. GTC said (paraphrasing slightly) - We need to build a strong running game and to improve our run defense. No one who watches HC Can be unaware of our weaknesses and they are being exploited. Some called for more plays with Miles Alexander, our frosh RB...we saw that at Albany and he averaged over 5 yards a carry. That s a first step...a small one but in the right direction. Hopefully our injured players can return (at least fr the PL games). As to Dartmouth, remember when some were worried that the Big Green might end the series with HC because they could not compete? How times seem to have changed. This week Dartmouth is a 10 point favorites at Holy Cross (Massey sees it as 31-21). A return to Fitton after two thumpings by ranked opponents is a chance to show improvement (a 25% chance according to Massey). A win this week and much of what of is being said right now may be forgotten. Another beating (not just a loss...a "beating") and things will be pretty grim against Lafayette as HC starts the PL season.
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wstruz71
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Post by wstruz71 on Sept 18, 2016 7:58:16 GMT -5
Thank you for your comments, Summa Cum Laude. I've been a season ticket holder for a good 40 years, and I'll be at the game this Saturday.
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Albany
Sept 18, 2016 7:59:33 GMT -5
Post by rgs318 on Sept 18, 2016 7:59:33 GMT -5
Thank you for your comments, Summa Cum Laude. I've been a season ticket holder for a good 40 years, and I'll be at the game this Saturday. You can call me "Rob"
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Albany
Sept 18, 2016 8:24:27 GMT -5
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Post by joe on Sept 18, 2016 8:24:27 GMT -5
Not exactly sure how personell is an issue with a senior laden class. Figured this year would be like '09 again, with HC mostly in control of games. I still think we can have a good season. We've not yet lost to a lesser team, so I'm keeping an open mind. My secondary concern right now is what happens next season when the seniors are gone.
I'm also puzzled by how we can't seem to stay healthy. Seems this is key with the roster limit.
By the way, anyone who says PP should sit is so far off base its laughable. Sit a 4 year starting QB and 3 year capain who is keeping us in most games? I don't think so, especially not if we ever plan to recruit another QB in our lifetimes.
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Albany
Sept 18, 2016 8:30:38 GMT -5
Post by HC92 on Sept 18, 2016 8:30:38 GMT -5
Need to score here. Albany is going to have a minimum of 42 at the end of this game. One time I would have liked to have been wrong.
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Albany
Sept 18, 2016 8:32:58 GMT -5
Post by Non Alum Dave on Sept 18, 2016 8:32:58 GMT -5
By the way, anyone who says PP should sit is so far off base its laughable. Sit a 4 year starting QB and 3 year capain who is keeping us in most games? I don't think so, especially not if we ever plan to recruit another QB in our lifetimes. Find those posts interesting as well. Almost carrying on in the tradition of SADERS and Real Talk from the hoops forum.
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Albany
Sept 18, 2016 8:45:36 GMT -5
Post by HC92 on Sept 18, 2016 8:45:36 GMT -5
By the way, anyone who says PP should sit is so far off base its laughable. Sit a 4 year starting QB and 3 year capain who is keeping us in most games? I don't think so, especially not if we ever plan to recruit another QB in our lifetimes. Find those posts interesting as well. Almost carrying on in the tradition of SADERS and Real Talk from the hoops forum. It's just silly and just one poster. Have to assume someone with a connection to Blaise Bell. I would have liked to have seen Bell more involved as a receiver last night. Didn't seem like he got many targets.
One other note from last night. There was a pretty good wind at the game. We were with the wind in the 1st and 4th and against the wind in the 2nd and 3rd. Seemed like Albany had most of their completions with the wind. PP did a pretty good job throwing into it, particularly in the 3rd quarter. He should definitely get an NFL look.
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Albany
Sept 18, 2016 8:49:39 GMT -5
Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Sept 18, 2016 8:49:39 GMT -5
Now that I've somewhat mastered the Title IX database, below are the comparative results of spending on football for seven institution that award scollies over all, or some of the years displayed, and spending on football four four institutions that do not include athletically-related financial aid.
(I did not include Fordham as its costs include a NYC premium, and Bucknell, as Bucknell's overall financial aid numbers look low.)
(Dollars in millions)
2011-12 Colgate 4.7 HC 3.9 Duquesne 2.2 Lafayette 4.3 Lehigh 4.4 Richmond 5.6 Villanova 5.3
2012-13 Colgate 4.8 HC 4.4 Duquesne 2.5 Lafayette 4.7 Lehigh 4.2 Richmond 6.1 Villanova 5.9
2013-14 Colgate 4.7 HC 4.4 Duquesne 2.7 Lafayette 4.7 Lehigh 4.3 Richmond 6.2 Villanova 6.3
2014-15 Colgate 5.3 HC 4.8 Duquesne 2.8 Lafayette 5.5 Lehigh 5.3 Richmond 6.5 Villanova 6.6 _____________________
2011-12 Dartmouth 2.5 Georgetown 1.7 Harvard 2.3 Penn 2.1
2012-13 Dartmouth 2.6 Georgetown 1.7 Harvard 2.6 Penn 2.4
2013-14 Dartmouth 3.0 Georgetown 1.7 Harvard 2.7 Penn 2.3
2014-15 Dartmouth 3.6 Georgetown 1.7 Harvard 2.7 Penn 2.2
(If one adds 63 full scollies at an average of $53K over this period, that's an additional $3.3-3.4 million to the totals for the four school.s supra.)
Four conclusions: 1.) HC lagged behind most of the PL in the run-up to and first years of scollies, and the effects of that may still be present.
2.) This lag likely contributed to the lack of quality depth at certain positions on the HC roster.
3.) The Ivies, with their actual financial aid hidden, are spending as much or more as the top-spending schools in FCS,
4.) The notion that adding scollies would give HC a competitive advantage was probably a pursuit of fool's gold.
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Post by timholycross on Sept 18, 2016 8:51:59 GMT -5
I think what it's called (wanting to bench pp) is someone with an agenda.
Which, I think is preferable to being so ignorant as to think that particular move will have positive ramficiations.
I do wish Bell was out there more. Program can't afford to have athletes sitting.
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purple71
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Albany
Sept 18, 2016 10:20:14 GMT -5
Post by purple71 on Sept 18, 2016 10:20:14 GMT -5
Very difficult loss last night, obviously. We had close to 100 local alums, families & friends there to no avail. The seats which UAlbany gave the Cross were the worst seats in the house. My question relates to the comments in the Albany papers this morning referencing some halftime comments from last year's game which motivated UAlbany this year: www.timesunion.com/sports/article/UAlbany-football-moves-to-3-0-with-win-over-Holy-9229897.php Can anyone shed some light on this issue?
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Albany
Sept 18, 2016 10:30:21 GMT -5
Post by KY Crusader 75 on Sept 18, 2016 10:30:21 GMT -5
On 43 rushing attempts, Albany had 9 rushes of at least 10 yards (10, 14, 40, 17, 10, 14, 22, 12 and 14 yards). That's 21%. On 38 rushing attempts, we had two plays of at least 10 yards (13 and 14). That's 5%. Furthermore, the two big runs came on our 2nd run of the game and then on our final run of the game when they were in a prevent defense up by 17 with under a minute to play. On 12 passing attempts, they had 5 go for more than 10 yards (24, 41, 14, 48 and 34 yards). That's 42%. On 55 passing attempts, we had 15 go for at least 10 yards (25, 11, 15, 18, 12, 14, 20, 18, 13, 13, 16, 15, 16, 15 and 25 yards). That's 27%. When you combine the two, Albany converted 25.5% of its rush and pass attempts for at least 10 yards. We converted 18.3%. And that was in a game where we were trailing by double digits for a significant majority of the game. Most of our big plays came in the second half. Not sure what this tells us but, sitting there in the stadium, it felt like we were getting gashed for big plays over and over and over. Great analysis--very helpful. It seems to me that we throw a lot of cross-the-field passes for short gains with PP throwing the ball 25 yards to a receiver on the sideline 5 yards beyond the line of scrimmage. I guess that's the nature of our offense and a substitute for running to gain short yardage. Jake caught a pass across the middle once and it really stood out as an atypical HC pass play, with PP throwing 25 yards for a 15 yard gain. We did have a few long pass attempts....
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Albany
Sept 18, 2016 10:46:56 GMT -5
Post by KY Crusader 75 on Sept 18, 2016 10:46:56 GMT -5
You can see the effect of the turnovers and field position (turnovers and special teams play) in the lengths of the touchdown ending drives:
90 yards- HC TD in 9 plays 83 yards- HC TD in 15 plays 75 yards- HC TD in 12 plays 70 yards--UA TD in 3 plays 70 yards--UA TD in 5 plays 70 yards--UA TD in 8 plays 65 yards--HC TD in 12 plays 60 yards---UA TD in 3 plays 44 yards---UA TD in 4 plays 24 yards---UA TD in 5 plays
Albany scored quickly, several times on a really shortened field. HC took 48 plays to go 313 yards to score 4 touchdowns. Albany took 28 plays to go 338 yards to score 6 touchdowns
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Albany
Sept 18, 2016 11:34:43 GMT -5
Post by jflare on Sept 18, 2016 11:34:43 GMT -5
Hopefully we can turn the tables next year on them and use this game as fodder for a victory as apparently they did this year with last year's game. If Gattuso refers to derogatory comments from last year at halftime, let's hear what they were. I think he totally made that up and his story is bogus. If not, then come clean Gattuso and elaborate. Mark this man for a beat down at Fitton next year !!
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Albany
Sept 18, 2016 11:52:59 GMT -5
Post by jflare on Sept 18, 2016 11:52:59 GMT -5
Looks like we will be waiting a long time for that beat down on Albany. Not on the foreseeable schedule. How do we give Albany a two for one series in scheduling. 2014 ( at Albany ) 2015 ( at Fitton ) and 2016 ( at Albany ) then done ..... Did I miss one from way back ? Incredible ( was that Regan )
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Albany
Sept 18, 2016 20:17:29 GMT -5
Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Sept 18, 2016 20:17:29 GMT -5
Looks like we will be waiting a long time for that beat down on Albany. Not on the foreseeable schedule. How do we give Albany a two for one series in scheduling. 2014 ( at Albany ) 2015 ( at Fitton ) and 2016 ( at Albany ) then done ..... Did I miss one from way back ? Incredible ( was that Regan ) Its possible future series with Albany got tossed when HC signed to play an annual FBS game, and inked long-term Harvard and Yale series renewals. That sort of schedule leaves room for one CAA opponent, and someone else (whether CAA, Ivy (Dartmouth or Brown), or a school like Monmouth. Albany is not a rival, and upstate NY does not seem to be a focus of HC recruiting.
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Albany
Sept 18, 2016 20:19:12 GMT -5
Post by rgs318 on Sept 18, 2016 20:19:12 GMT -5
Perhaps HC will see them again in the playoffs down the road.
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Post by breezy on Sept 19, 2016 10:48:49 GMT -5
There was a fourth game in the series scheduled to take place in 2017, but it is my understanding that Albany backed out of that game in order to schedule an FBS game.
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Albany
Sept 19, 2016 11:15:03 GMT -5
Post by purplehaze on Sept 19, 2016 11:15:03 GMT -5
looking ahead to our run defense going forward, there is serious reason for concern. we all know fordham has the best rb in the league in Edmonds. The other contenders for the league title are colgate and lehigh. the raiders rushed for 233 yards in their whooping of yale in new haven and the mountain hawks went for 243 yards on the ground in their win at penn. I hope we have a plan to improve our front 7 play.
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