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Post by longsuffering on Apr 22, 2020 0:51:41 GMT -5
"Err on the side of caution," and "out of an abundance of caution" are two favorite sayings of college Administrators. That doesn't bode well for fall sports.
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Post by Tom on Apr 22, 2020 9:21:31 GMT -5
It has been walked back a little UCTV Sports Retweeted Stephanie Reitz @reitztweets · 31m CLARIFYING:
@uconnpreztk
told a #UConn journalism class today that decisions on fall sports would be made w/ NCAA, our conference, state govt & related authorities. UConn fall sports are NOT CANCELED. He said it's likely ONLY if current conditions persist.
@uconnhuskiesStephanie Reitz is the official spokesperson for the University. Yea...UConn is going crazy with statements from everyone. The quote from the President is pretty obvious as it states "" Current thinking is that likely fall sports will be cancelled - with the exception of those that can be played at a safe distance”. The original quote is so tentative, I wouldn't say the clarification doesn't back anything off. The only thing the clarification does is spell out for people who either assume too much or have poor reading skills that the no final decision is in place
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Post by HC92 on Apr 22, 2020 10:52:12 GMT -5
He reportedly said “current thinking” is that fall sports “likely” will be cancelled. I think that is the strongest statement of this sort to date from a university leader. Sure it contains two doses or wishy-washiness (current and likely) but it does provide some insight into where his head (and maybe those of others in similar positions) is at on April 22. BU made a more wishy-washy statement about maybe not opening in the Fall and many people still believe they have already decided not to reopen.
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Post by rgs318 on Apr 22, 2020 11:30:05 GMT -5
Of course, if they then do open, whoever is in charge can take bows and receive credit for preventing something that had not yet been a plan.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Apr 22, 2020 13:27:29 GMT -5
Glass half full:
Right now we are about 6 weeks into the grip of this pandemic. While these 6 weeks have felt like 6 months, the good news is that major hotspots like NY and NJ are already starting to turn the corner. Fall camp is still 14 weeks away. I would think that about halfway between now and then, the picture will be a lot clearer in terms of where we are with testing and an action plan to re-open.
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 22, 2020 13:29:33 GMT -5
If a higher authority like the CDC or the NCAA gives college presidents cover to open stadiums, they would be happy to be bold and positive. If blame would fall squarely on their decision for any outbreaks traced to crowds at their stadium, don't expect many to buck conventional wisdom.
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 22, 2020 13:34:37 GMT -5
Glass half full: Right now we are about 6 weeks into the grip of this pandemic. While these 6 weeks have felt like 6 months, the good news is that major hotspots like NY and NJ are already starting to turn the corner. Fall camp is still 14 weeks away. I would think that about halfway between now and then, the picture will be a lot clearer in terms of where we are with testing and an action plan to re-open. I agree. There will probably be a majority position on re-opening fall athletics backed by science, government and the NCAA and a few outliers either on the aggressive side or the cautious side over the range of options such as fan-less matches, only players who have tested negative, etc.
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Post by purplehaze on Apr 24, 2020 10:09:30 GMT -5
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Post by timholycross on Apr 24, 2020 10:20:45 GMT -5
Very tricky stuff. My daughter has core courses to take in the last two years, plus courses specific to her major. If the school is online and the price is the same, it makes more sense to take the core courses (or some of them) from some other place (specifically, in state schools in Mass.), the tuition cost is nearly 2/3 less per course. But, what we don't know is: what courses will her college accept? I have to think the universities want to make sure that someone doesn't leave entirely (which I don't think she would, but they don't know that; which is in our favor!), so my guess is they'll accept practically anything. Question: what would Holy Cross do with Montserrat if there's no in-person school? That doesn't seem like the type of thing one could do online.
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Post by CHC8485 on Apr 24, 2020 12:27:28 GMT -5
I would think much of the Montserrat stuff could be down on-line. Yes. there's typically an experiential component that for many of the courses may be lost, but as they are smaller classes (generally around 20 students) and intended to provide a bit more personal interaction with the prof., an online class with specific 1x1 video conferences could work out reasonably well.
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Post by Tom on Apr 28, 2020 7:48:27 GMT -5
Montserrat could be done easier than a chem or bio lab
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Post by rgs318 on May 4, 2020 11:12:23 GMT -5
Governor Murphy has announced that NJ will follow NY's lead and has cancelled in-person education for the balance of the school year.
The NJSIAA has now officially cancelled all scholastic sports for the balance of the academic year.
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Post by purplehaze on May 6, 2020 14:36:15 GMT -5
From today's WSJ (anyone know how HC fared with May 1 deposits from HS seniors?)
'Incoming freshmen at Fordham University were told they had to decide by May 1 whether to accept the admission offers and send in their deposits.
On May 2, however, with deposits tracking about 10% behind those the prior year, the New York school notified admitted students who hadn’t yet committed that they could take until June 1 to decide.
There is a dramatic shift in who has leverage in college admissions because of the coronavirus pandemic. Students are finding new power in a process that long made many feel impotent, as they watched acceptance rates tick down, and even stellar candidates received rejection letters from their top picks.
Now, they are getting off the wait lists at “reach” schools, and those admitted outright are able to wait far longer before making decisions. Even institutions that generally reject large shares of their applicants are courting families in a way they have never done before.
The University of California, Los Angeles; Washington University in St. Louis, the University of Chicago and multiple Ivy League schools all began to tap their wait lists before May 1 to round out first-year classes. They want to hedge against potential shortfalls, if students opt to stay closer to home.'
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Post by purplehaze on May 7, 2020 10:39:07 GMT -5
Fascinating site that shows the schools still accepting applications for fall 2020. Surprised to see Lehigh on this list Not surprised to see Fordham, Providence, Loyola, Md., Union and others of similar rep looking for qualified students after May 1st. www.nacacnet.org/news--publications/Research/CollegeOpenings/
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Post by purplehaze on May 11, 2020 11:44:14 GMT -5
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on May 12, 2020 12:22:31 GMT -5
From Dr. Fauci's testimony and those of others on the panel, it seems that colleges and universities can re-open for the fall semester, provided they have sufficient testing resources and protocols, and an ability to isolate any individuals who test positive. To Sen. Alexander's specific question about a vaccine or drug being available by September, Fauci said, 'No'.
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Post by purplehaze on May 12, 2020 18:17:28 GMT -5
The MAC is eliminating postseason competition in eight sports - this action is expected to last up to four years starting in 2021 - the effects on budgets at the 'Group of 5' schools is huge and if there's no football in the fall watch out for major disruption at Power 5 schools. The next two months could be explosive www.si.com/college/2020/05/12/mac-eliminate-postseason-several-sports
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Post by Tom on May 13, 2020 13:12:08 GMT -5
The MAC is eliminating postseason competition in eight sports - this action is expected to last up to four years starting in 2021 - the effects on budgets at the 'Group of 5' schools is huge and if there's no football in the fall watch out for major disruption at Power 5 schools. The next two months could be explosive www.si.com/college/2020/05/12/mac-eliminate-postseason-several-sportsWow. Seems harsh to call it for four years. I wonder if regular season champions in the affected sports will be allowed to participate in the NCAA tourney
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Post by purplehaze on May 13, 2020 14:27:05 GMT -5
my understanding from the article is 'yes' to that question
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Post by nycrusader2010 on May 13, 2020 19:35:42 GMT -5
The MAC is eliminating postseason competition in eight sports - this action is expected to last up to four years starting in 2021 - the effects on budgets at the 'Group of 5' schools is huge and if there's no football in the fall watch out for major disruption at Power 5 schools. The next two months could be explosive www.si.com/college/2020/05/12/mac-eliminate-postseason-several-sportsWow. Seems harsh to call it for four years. I wonder if regular season champions in the affected sports will be allowed to participate in the NCAA tourney Yes because the MAC wouldn't be footing the travel bill. The idea is to cut costs in order to recover from this year's lack of NCAA tournament revenue share.
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Post by purplehaze on May 14, 2020 11:09:38 GMT -5
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Post by sader1970 on May 15, 2020 9:39:05 GMT -5
While Holy Cross is not specifically mentioned, the importance of "pay" or "guarantee" games is clearly demonstrated and perhaps answers to some degree the objections of those who don't understand why the Crusaders play UConn, Syracuse, Navy, BC. That's in the AD's financial wheelhouse and for the coaches, all of them say, including Chesney, that the players like them in order to test themselves and is a legitimate recruiting tool.
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Post by purplehaze on May 16, 2020 11:25:37 GMT -5
The MAC seems to be the most active D.1 conference making cost cutting moves - the latest is Bowling Green axing its baseball program effective immediately
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Post by Sons of Vaval on May 16, 2020 11:42:29 GMT -5
Our children's and grandchildren's health and safety comes first. It’s a money decision.
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Post by longsuffering on May 16, 2020 12:09:55 GMT -5
The MAC seems to be the most active D.1 conference making cost cutting moves - the latest is Bowling Green axing its baseball program effective immediately With MLB cutting the amateur draft down to five rounds, axing many minor league affiliations and some MLB players acting like crybabies over their salaries, the national pastime is not doing much to bring the nation together during this crisis. I have more sympathy for colleges caught in a budget squeeze but hope they will reconsider when the economy improves. College baseball should be an affordable sport played outdoors in the fresh air on fields that were payed for sometime in the last century. I'd rather have leagues ax expensive late winter Southern trips and play deeper into the spring than have the sport die by a thousand cuts as more schools drop it.
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