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Post by trimster on Jun 11, 2020 18:01:38 GMT -5
More good news about the start of the football season: Unfortunately, the virus has the final say and based on the early returns from stars opening up, I doubt there will be a college football season this Fall or an NFL season for that matter. I can see a college season happening next Spring. Not sure how that would play out in the Northern half of the country but the big boys aren’t going to let a school year go by without a football season.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Jun 11, 2020 18:55:40 GMT -5
My hunch is trending more and more towards a season this fall. Hope I’m right.
Not sure how “full” of a season. But we’ll have a season.
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Post by hc2020 on Jun 11, 2020 19:06:01 GMT -5
Stonehill College is the latest school to announce an early start to the Fall semester with an end of classes at Thanksgiving break, all to apparently counteract an expected surge later this year. This appears to be a trend.
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Post by purplehaze on Jun 11, 2020 21:11:13 GMT -5
Rich H has posted that the PL administrators will be meeting Monday June 15th to discuss summer workouts and various football issues.
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Post by hc2020 on Jun 12, 2020 17:37:07 GMT -5
Excerpt from an email sent to students earlier today about plans for the Fall semester:
We are doing everything we can to plan for the fall semester, and we are working hard on plans to bring our students back to a safe living and learning environment. We have continued to immerse ourselves in understanding the latest health and safety guidance, consulting with infectious disease experts and other medical specialists. We are also working with professional cleaning and sanitation companies and space planning professionals in order to adapt our programs, processes and physical spaces to incorporate health and safety measures. This work will influence our final plan. We do know that the fall semester will look different from what we are accustomed to in some of the following ways: • Health and safety: We will be implementing robust testing and symptom tracking protocols as well as requiring safety measures for all students, faculty and staff on campus such as the wearing of masks, physical distancing in classrooms and other campus spaces. In addition, physical and procedural changes will be put into place on campus in accordance with the latest medical and public health guidance. Visitors to campus will be limited. The responsibility lies on all of us to keep our community members safe, so everyone will be required to adhere to the established guidelines and expectations. • Academic calendar and schedule: Classes will start on September 1, one day earlier than previously planned. We will eliminate our fall break and students will leave campus before Thanksgiving. The semester will be completed remotely after the Thanksgiving holiday. We will need to use different, larger spaces on campus for classes to allow for physical distancing, and class meetings will be spread over the entire day, with some meeting later in the afternoon or evening, to avoid congestion on campus and to allow for cleaning of spaces in between classes. We are planning for a three-week January term which will allow some students to participate in one course in a highly focused manner. • Class format: Similar to many other colleges and universities, our approach to classes this fall will be a hybrid one. We understand that some students, faculty and staff will be unable to return to campus. We are also limited in space on campus to accommodate larger classes and allow for proper physical distancing. Therefore, our faculty are preparing courses for both in-person and online formats. Some courses will be held online for all students, even for those who are living on campus. And some courses may have in-person and online components. We have learned many lessons this spring from our experience with conducting courses remotely, and we have gathered valuable feedback from students about their experiences that we are incorporating into course design for the fall. I am excited about the courses our faculty are designing to engage our students in new and creative ways both in person and online. • Housing: We are working with medical and space planning professionals on housing configurations that will meet our goals for de-densifying living spaces and providing adequate isolation and quarantine space per epidemiologists’ guidelines. We will have more specific information on housing and the housing process in the first part of July. • Co-curricular programs and athletics: We will continue to offer a breadth of opportunities beyond the classroom. Our existing programs will require modifications, and many on campus are planning for adapting those programs and creating new opportunities for personal and spiritual development, experiential learning, health and wellness and community building. With regard to athletics, we are in continued conversation with the conferences in which we compete, and we will communicate with our student athletes and with all of you about plans for the fall as soon as we have more information.
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Post by purplehaze on Jun 12, 2020 18:22:15 GMT -5
No word on sports - suppose we'll hear in the next week or two seems most schools are going with the Thanksgiving week to conclude in person classes and empty the campus (except for athletes?) the 3 week January term in interesting and not sure why it's being contemplated (assume on line only)
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Post by hc2020 on Jun 12, 2020 19:15:37 GMT -5
Students on campus to start Fall term = football is a go!
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Post by hchoops on Jun 12, 2020 22:05:08 GMT -5
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jun 13, 2020 9:47:49 GMT -5
And all six student-athletes will make a full recovery in a week or so.
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Post by rickii on Jun 13, 2020 10:17:43 GMT -5
And all six student-athletes will make a full recovery in a week or so. Precisely..., I’m confused. Why are folks so surprised at the jump in virus discoveries? Wasn’t that the goal - certainly the expectation - with the max effort on testing, no? This is no birth of a ‘second wave’ although we’ll have to reserve results until all the demonstrators and looters have been tested.
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Post by hchoops on Jun 13, 2020 10:46:41 GMT -5
And all six student-athletes will make a full recovery in a week or so. Maybe, doc, but Can they infect older, more susceptible people, ex.their grandparents ?
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jun 13, 2020 10:50:05 GMT -5
And all six student-athletes will make a full recovery in a week or so. Maybe, doc, but Can they infect their grandparents ? If they don’t come into contact with them, no.
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Post by purplehaze on Jun 13, 2020 13:14:44 GMT -5
Iowa St reported that 10 student athletes have tested positive (they arrived on campus infected) - among 147 players, coaches, trainers, other personnel in the football program, only 2 tested positive
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Post by HC92 on Jun 13, 2020 13:21:53 GMT -5
Iowa St reported that 10 student athletes have tested positive (they arrived on campus infected) - among 147 players, coaches, trainers, other personnel in the football program, only 2 tested positive This means 10 student athletes tested positive across all sports but only 2 of 147 people associated with the football program tested positive?
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Post by purplehaze on Jun 13, 2020 13:28:46 GMT -5
Sorry, 2 of the 'football players' (don't know how many there are maybe 60?) - so the other 8 cases are other student athletes and related staff
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Post by hcpride on Jun 13, 2020 16:10:40 GMT -5
No doubt a good number of college kids will test positive. And have tested positive. At home and at school. Athletes and otherwise. I think that is understood. Fortunately, we know the science. Now, if this was Ebola or Bacterial Meningitis...
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Post by hchoops on Jun 14, 2020 21:33:25 GMT -5
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Post by lou on Jun 14, 2020 21:50:29 GMT -5
The protocols that Ohio State athletes have been required to follow include submitting to coronavirus testing, reporting exposure to COVID-19, disclosing symptoms of the virus, including a fever of 100.4 degrees Fahrenheit or higher, and remaining home if they feel sick
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 14, 2020 22:58:35 GMT -5
The flip side of this pushing of responsibility onto the players is that if a player says he is not comfortable with the risk of virus transmission inherent in blocking and tackling and prefers to stay six feet away from others, the school has to honor their scholarship. If most of the players declined to sign away their right to hold the University accountable if an ambitious coach or administrator stretches the safety guidelines for competitive reasons and students are harmed, what would the University do? Cancel the season due to lack of players? I doubt it.
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Post by hcpride on Jun 15, 2020 5:04:46 GMT -5
Given the identical symptoms (fever, cough, body aches and fatigue; sometimes vomiting and diarrhea) and identical primary transmission (droplets in the air from an infected person coughing, sneezing or talking) one wonders if college players who feel sick but test negative for the COVID-19 virus and subsequently test positive for the seasonal flu virus will fall under a college's COVID-19 protocols in terms of treatment, quarantine, etc.
If not, I can see where an ambitious coach might play the seasonal flu kid notwithstanding the science indicating that seasonal flu is actually more life-threatening for the college-age kid than Covid-19.
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Post by HC92 on Jun 15, 2020 7:31:10 GMT -5
The waiver doesn’t really change anything from a practical standpoint. How many college athletes are going to contract Covid, be able to connect if to something specific to their participation in football, be able to prove that the school was legally responsible (I.e. that it breached the standard of care) in some way, have serious enough damages that it’s worth pursuing, particularly when doing so would run the risk of damaging their relationship with their team and becoming alienated?. College athletes get hurt all the time. It’s a very rare instance when one of them sues the school. If you’re playing college football in 2020, you’re knowingly taking on some risk of getting concussed, tearing your ACL and contracting Covid. And if your school does something so bad that a suit is worthwhile, the waiver probably isn’t going to protect the school either by its own terms or because a court will declare it unenforceable. All the waiver/release talk is much ado about nothing in my opinion.
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Post by hcpride on Jun 15, 2020 9:48:00 GMT -5
The waiver doesn’t really change anything from a practical standpoint. How many college athletes are going to contract Covid, be able to connect if to something specific to their participation in football, be able to prove that the school was legally responsible (I.e. that it breached the standard of care) in some way, have serious enough damages that it’s worth pursuing, particularly when doing so would run the risk of damaging their relationship with their team and becoming alienated?. College athletes get hurt all the time. It’s a very rare instance when one of them suea the school. If you’re playing college football in 2020, you’re knowingly taking on some risk of getting concussed, tearing your ACL and contracting Covid. And if your school does something so bad that a suit is worthwhile, the waiver probably isn’t going to protect the school either by its own terms or because a court will declare it unenforceable. All the waiver/release talk is much ado about nothing in my opinion. Agree...especially the highlight.
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Post by hchoops on Jun 15, 2020 11:29:53 GMT -5
I think that the TOSU lawyers decidedj
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Post by unhfan on Jun 15, 2020 23:30:57 GMT -5
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 16, 2020 1:06:16 GMT -5
The waiver doesn’t really change anything from a practical standpoint. How many college athletes are going to contract Covid, be able to connect if to something specific to their participation in football, be able to prove that the school was legally responsible (I.e. that it breached the standard of care) in some way, have serious enough damages that it’s worth pursuing, particularly when doing so would run the risk of damaging their relationship with their team and becoming alienated?. College athletes get hurt all the time. It’s a very rare instance when one of them sues the school. If you’re playing college football in 2020, you’re knowingly taking on some risk of getting concussed, tearing your ACL and contracting Covid. And if your school does something so bad that a suit is worthwhile, the waiver probably isn’t going to protect the school either by its own terms or because a court will declare it unenforceable. All the waiver/release talk is much ado about nothing in my opinion. I am thinking of an ambitious coach exceeding specific college Covid rules such as how long students can congregate, how large the group can be, how many students in the weight room at one time, how far apart they must be in the film room, etc. If a student gets a severe case of coronavirus he couldn't prove he caught it from being on the football team but he could prove the coach endangered him by exceeding college safety limits. I hope students aren't signing away their rights to hold the coach and school accountable in that scenario.
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