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PL OOC
May 30, 2020 10:19:31 GMT -5
Post by hchoops on May 30, 2020 10:19:31 GMT -5
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PL OOC
May 30, 2020 10:55:44 GMT -5
Post by bison137 on May 30, 2020 10:55:44 GMT -5
Bucknell OOC games that are known at this point:
- Penn State (Away) - La Salle (Home) - Hofstra (Away) - Princeton (Away) - Rider (Home) - Albany (Away) - Siena (Home) - Fairfield (Home) - Towson (Away)
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PL OOC
May 30, 2020 11:00:51 GMT -5
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Post by Sons of Vaval on May 30, 2020 11:00:51 GMT -5
A nice OOC slate, but this seems a little less challenging and not as interesting as past years.
What do you think about it, 137?
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PL OOC
May 30, 2020 11:33:30 GMT -5
Post by rf1 on May 30, 2020 11:33:30 GMT -5
Rhode Island will host Patriot League member Lehigh as part of the HOF Tip-Off. URI will see a Quinnipaic visit in its other campus game in this event.
Jon Rothsten just announced two new home and home series starting in 2020 for Rhody - Seton Hall (starts in Kingston) and Boston College (at Conte Forum).
It appears that URI has made a concerted effort to stay close to home during this pandemic. Only two (Western Kentucky and FGCU) of thirteen OOC games will require serious travel as all the other games are either at home or within 90 miles.
Rhode Island's Tentative 2020-2021 Schedule
HOME (6) Lehigh Quinnipiac Brown Drexel Boise State (A-10/MWC Challenge) Seton Hall
AWAY (5) FGCU Western Kentucky Harvard Boston College Providence
NEUTRAL (2-Mohegan Sun) Marquette Minnesota or UCF
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PL OOC
May 30, 2020 11:44:37 GMT -5
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Post by res on May 30, 2020 11:44:37 GMT -5
Cool. I guess the pandemic has me rather addled. I didn't know that URI had become a member of the PL. Should help both football and basketball.
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PL OOC
May 30, 2020 11:54:47 GMT -5
Post by bison137 on May 30, 2020 11:54:47 GMT -5
A nice OOC slate, but this seems a little less challenging and not as interesting as past years. What do you think about it, 137? Don't forget that there are probably still about three more games to be added. If the addition is a multi-team event with a couple of strong teams, then the schedule will be similar to last year. If not, it will be a bit weaker. A big issue, as it is for other programs, is a requirement to keep down travel expenses. They probably can't book any games that require overnight stays unless there is a guarantee to cover it. Even right now, I think it's fairly challenging as the only team on it that might be weak is Fairfield. La Salle was much improved last year and should improve again this year, and PSU was a top 30 team. Note that eight of the games this year are return games or renewal of series, so a lot of it is the same as last year: Return Games (8): Penn State, La Salle, Fairfield, Hofstra, Princeton, Rider, Albany, Siena Teams played last year but not this year ((5): Syracuse, Vermont, Seattle, Yale, Canisius New opponents - so far (1): Towson
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PL OOC
Jun 11, 2020 14:18:37 GMT -5
Post by purplehaze on Jun 11, 2020 14:18:37 GMT -5
Lehigh is at Marquette and URI the first week of the season AU will play at NC State
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PL OOC
Jun 17, 2020 11:02:02 GMT -5
Post by purplehaze on Jun 17, 2020 11:02:02 GMT -5
Colgate at Texas - nice payday - probably something in the $100,000 range no rumors about our ooc schedule ? even with financial concerns everywhere and our reshaped roster, I would imagine we're not looking for anything like this game
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PL OOC
Jun 17, 2020 13:08:14 GMT -5
Post by notjuanjones on Jun 17, 2020 13:08:14 GMT -5
Likely AU OOC schedule (based on previous years/deals, with 1-2 games left to be scheduled):
Home: Siena, Howard, Mount St. Mary's Away: N.C. State, George Mason, George Washington, William and Mary, Stony Brook
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PL OOC
Jun 17, 2020 13:18:30 GMT -5
Post by trimster on Jun 17, 2020 13:18:30 GMT -5
Likely AU OOC schedule (based on previous years/deals, with 1-2 games left to be scheduled): Home: Siena, Howard, Mount St. Mary's Away: N.C. State, George Mason, George Washington, William and Mary, Stony Brook That is a pretty decent OOC slate. Depending on who else they add, it could become very good.
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PL OOC
Jun 18, 2020 14:15:47 GMT -5
Post by notjuanjones on Jun 18, 2020 14:15:47 GMT -5
Likely AU OOC schedule (based on previous years/deals, with 1-2 games left to be scheduled): Home: Siena, Howard, Mount St. Mary's Away: N.C. State, George Mason, George Washington, William and Mary, Stony Brook That is a pretty decent OOC slate. Depending on who else they add, it could become very good. Yeah, I think it's pretty good. We got a 2/2 with Siena, which is very unusual for us. I've been advocating games with W&M and/or Delaware for years, given our proximity to both. Bus trips.
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PL OOC
Jun 18, 2020 16:49:51 GMT -5
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Post by res on Jun 18, 2020 16:49:51 GMT -5
Yes, as the W&M admissions officer explained to us when my son was visiting, the drive between DC and Williamsburg was between 2 and 12 hours, "depending". The third of us in the room from Northern Virginia roared in laughter.
The trip to Newark would be a little more predictable.
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PL OOC
Jun 18, 2020 18:11:02 GMT -5
Post by timholycross on Jun 18, 2020 18:11:02 GMT -5
Yes, as the W&M admissions officer explained to us when my son was visiting, the drive between DC and Williamsburg was between 2 and 12 hours, "depending". The third of us in the room from Northern Virginia roared in laughter. The trip to Newark would be a little more predictable. I was amazed how many people told me on my southern trip to not even consider going on 95 north of Richmond.
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Post by efg72 on Jun 18, 2020 19:24:34 GMT -5
The trip from the beltway in VA to Williamsburg is an easy drive as long as you take the bypass to 64- cops are tough on 64, but mostly go after students
Of my seven, one went to W&M, the others to Gtown and UVA. The tribe offered by far and away the best education. Now had any gone north to HC, I wouldn’t be making that statement.
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Post by notjuanjones on Jun 18, 2020 19:27:34 GMT -5
The trip from the beltway in VA to Williamsburg is an easy drive as long as you take the bypass to 64- cops are tough on 64, but mostly go after students Of my seven, one went to W&M, the others to Gtown and UVA. The tribe offered by far and away the best education. Now had any gone north to HC, I wouldn’t be making that statement. Yeah, exactly. I've driven from D.C. to Williamsburg a thousand times. It's three hours. Via 64. Every time. So why would anyone go any other way?
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PL OOC
Jun 18, 2020 19:32:14 GMT -5
Post by efg72 on Jun 18, 2020 19:32:14 GMT -5
For the most part we made it from McLean to Williamsburg in around two hours over the years-college, soccer and hoops tournaments. I guess it depends on the time of day when you make the trip
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PL OOC
Jun 18, 2020 20:50:25 GMT -5
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Jun 18, 2020 20:50:25 GMT -5
The drive to and from Williamsburg has historically been a pleasant one for AU. Conference mates in the CAA for years, you guys are something like 40-12 against the Tribe all time. One of those head scratchers like our awful all-time football record against Yale. 6-30 now?
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PL OOC
Jun 19, 2020 18:14:31 GMT -5
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Post by res on Jun 19, 2020 18:14:31 GMT -5
The trip from the beltway in VA to Williamsburg is an easy drive as long as you take the bypass to 64- cops are tough on 64, but mostly go after students Of my seven, one went to W&M, the others to Gtown and UVA. The tribe offered by far and away the best education. Now had any gone north to HC, I wouldn’t be making that statement. I would suggest that times have changed. When I was making the trip in the '80s and '90s, it was usually uneventful. In the mid and late 2010s, not so much. Now, I am not as experienced as njj who has made the trip 1,000 times, but I've probably got over 75 under my belt. You've got to plan well and get lucky. Two of the top 7 US traffic bottlenecks are located along the route and one accident can bring disaster (link provided on request). You are correct, efg, with respect to the education provided at W&M. For my money, and they got enough of it, best in the state.
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PL OOC
Jun 19, 2020 18:20:43 GMT -5
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Post by res on Jun 19, 2020 18:20:43 GMT -5
Oh, and my brother-in-law, a member of what HC70 used to call the purplest class of them all, will back me up on this.
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PL OOC
Jun 20, 2020 11:38:51 GMT -5
Post by notjuanjones on Jun 20, 2020 11:38:51 GMT -5
The trip from the beltway in VA to Williamsburg is an easy drive as long as you take the bypass to 64- cops are tough on 64, but mostly go after students Of my seven, one went to W&M, the others to Gtown and UVA. The tribe offered by far and away the best education. Now had any gone north to HC, I wouldn’t be making that statement. I would suggest that times have changed. When I was making the trip in the '80s and '90s, it was usually uneventful. In the mid and late 2010s, not so much. Now, I am not as experienced as njj who has made the trip 1,000 times, but I've probably got over 75 under my belt. You've got to plan well and get lucky. Two of the top 7 US traffic bottlenecks are located along the route and one accident can bring disaster (link provided on request). You are correct, efg, with respect to the education provided at W&M. For my money, and they got enough of it, best in the state. You may well be right that congestion has impacted travel time. I defer to those who've made the trip more recently than I. On another note, I have often advocated for W&M as a potential PL add when and if the conference ever considered further expansion. When the PL added Boston in 2012 I wrote on our board that one of Fordham, W&M or GW would make sense as the 10th member, for different reasons. Here's what I said then about W&M: "The Tribe would be a longshot for the PL, given their strong showing in the CAA since joining in 1985, and their location in Williamsburg. That's a three-hour drive for AU, and we're the closest to them by a lot! Pretty sure most PL schools would have to fly to W&M, and vice versa, and that means everybody's paying for more expensive jet fuel. W&M hasn't been very good in basketball (the best the men have done in recent years is a tie for third; the women have had one winning record the last seven years), but they've been good in football (reaching the FCS national semifinals in '09), great in both men's and women's track and field and cross country, and solid in soccer. Our best hope for getting W&M in the Patriot would be the continued dilution of the CAA, but it's hard to see that conference just sit by and watch itself implode without raiding some smaller conference to restore itself. Academically is where W&M is a great fit. Its four-year APR of 974 is solid (ahead of AU and Army); it ranked 33rd in USNWR's rantings, its tuition (roughly 35K) is in line with other PL schools, its enrollment of 8,000 is higher than most PL schools, but lower than AU and BU, and it had a 90 percent six-year graduation rate. Its SAT average of 1850-2160 ranks just behind Lehigh, 32nd nationally, and it has an endowment of $684 million, behind BU, Lehigh, Colgate and Lafayette but ahead of Holy Cross, Bucknell and AU." The numbers have changed since then, but still love a potential fit of the Tribe in the PL if there was ever a defection by another school.
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PL OOC
Jun 20, 2020 14:15:35 GMT -5
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Post by res on Jun 20, 2020 14:15:35 GMT -5
I agree. I'd love to have both Richmond and W&M, at least for football. No chance in my lifetime, I'm afraid. I mentioned it to the former W&M president 4 years ago, and he responded that the Tribe belonged in the Ivy. No chance of that either. I'm not sure whether any of the Ivies would want them in, but the story goes that Penn said no (freaking) way.
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PL OOC
Jun 20, 2020 14:51:47 GMT -5
Post by bison137 on Jun 20, 2020 14:51:47 GMT -5
Yes, no chance for Richmond and W&M unless the PL opts to allow full redshirting and eliminates the Academic Index.
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PL OOC
Jul 14, 2020 22:11:08 GMT -5
Post by bison137 on Jul 14, 2020 22:11:08 GMT -5
A nice OOC slate, but this seems a little less challenging and not as interesting as past years. What do you think about it, 137? Don't forget that there are probably still about three more games to be added. If the addition is a multi-team event with a couple of strong teams, then the schedule will be similar to last year. If not, it will be a bit weaker. A big issue, as it is for other programs, is a requirement to keep down travel expenses. They probably can't book any games that require overnight stays unless there is a guarantee to cover it. Even right now, I think it's fairly challenging as the only team on it that might be weak is Fairfield. La Salle was much improved last year and should improve again this year, and PSU was a top 30 team. Note that eight of the games this year are return games or renewal of series, so a lot of it is the same as last year: Not that I expect a full OOC schedule to be played, but the final scheduled games for Bucknell are now known. First, they added a home-and-home with Richmond. Then recently they were announced as a participant in what was supposed to be the Cancun Challenge but which has now moved to Florida for a year as the Space Coast Challenge. Teams are Clemson, Purdue, Mississippi State, East Tennessee State, Bucknell, Illinois State, Rider, and TBD. In the past, each participant has played four games, with two games on P6 campuses and two apiece in Cancun (a P6 four-team event plus a mid-major four-team event) - but it looks like all of it may be scheduled for Florida this year. So the full schedule - which probably won't all be played - looks like this: - Hofstra (Away) - Princeton (Away) - Rider (Home) - Albany (Away) - Siena (Home) - Fairfield (Home) - Towson (Away) - La Salle (Home) - Richmond (Away) - Space Coast Challenge (games vs three or four of Clemson, Mississippi State, Purdue, East Tennessee State, Illinois State, Rider, and TBD. Ends up fairly similar in strength to last year's schedule. But all of the games actually got played last year.
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PL OOC
Jul 14, 2020 22:30:05 GMT -5
Post by hchoops on Jul 14, 2020 22:30:05 GMT -5
Considering the current virus condition in Florida, what are the chances of that tourney being played in Florida ? A final decision would have to be made by September at the latest.
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Post by bison137 on Jul 15, 2020 0:48:38 GMT -5
Considering the current virus condition in Florida, what are the chances of that tourney being played in Florida ? probably not High, although it appears that the current virus condition in Florida is not as bad as was reported. Turns out some of the lab reports were incorrect, reporting positive cases but not negative cases.
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