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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jun 3, 2020 18:43:10 GMT -5
This link is to an interview, late afternoon June 2nd, between Fauci and the editor-in-chief (a physician) of the Journal of the American Medical Association.
The big news coming out of the interview is that Fauci comes very close to promising a couple hundred million doses of the vaccine being available by January.
The smaller news is the editor talking about Fauci's empathy, and asking whether that is a product of his Jesuit and Holy Cross education. After Tony replies, the editor calls Fauci a "national treasure" and his pronouncement is said with clearly, heart-felt emotion. Remarkable conclusion. (I have passed the link on to HC.)
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Post by hchoops on Jun 3, 2020 18:48:59 GMT -5
So I presume Tony answered the question in the affirmative
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jun 3, 2020 19:37:43 GMT -5
So I presume Tony answered the question in the affirmative He said his father was empathetic, and then segued to Holy Cross (he added Regis) and the Jesuit education.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jun 3, 2020 19:42:42 GMT -5
200 million doses by January would mean that colleges and universities should have on-campus instruction for second semester, with this caveat. What is not clear, even probably to Fauci at this point, is whether 200 million doses means one dose for 200 million people, or two doses for 100 million people.
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Post by WCHC Sports on Jun 4, 2020 11:01:08 GMT -5
Doctors, better readers, smarter people: I gathered from Dr. Fauci's remarks that they would be making the vaccines before they were proven to be fully effective in clinical trials. The goal was that should the trials and testing prove to be successful, the manufacturing heavy-lifting would have been largely underway, meaning they could rapidly get those doses in the hands (arms, asses, etc.) of willing recipients. It does not guarantee that the vaccine will be ready from an effective standpoint by that time... did I miss the mark?
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jun 4, 2020 12:30:08 GMT -5
Doctors, better readers, smarter people: I gathered from Dr. Fauci's remarks that they would be making the vaccines before they were proven to be fully effective in clinical trials. The goal was that should the trials and testing prove to be successful, the manufacturing heavy-lifting would have been largely underway, meaning they could rapidly get those doses in the hands (arms, asses, etc.) of willing recipients. It does not guarantee that the vaccine will be ready from an effective standpoint by that time... did I miss the mark? Pretty much. The fly in the ointment is finding locations for the Phase 3 testing. This is where 30,000 individuals per vaccine candidate are inoculated These individuals live/work in a location where spread of the disease is rampant. If there are no infections among the inoculated, that's demonstrative proof. Fauci indicated that both U.S. and non U.S. sites would be chosen. He further said, if the sites chosen do not have rampant infection, the Phase 3 process could take months longer. (Five U.S. vaccines = 150,000 inoculated individuals.) There is an alternative to the above, which is to inoculate, then deliberately try to infect the inoculated individual. This is considered unethical. As I heard Fauci's timeline, Phase 3 would occur Sept-Nov., and assuming there is demonstrative proof of the vaccine's effectiveness, them syringes begin to be filled, with the initial distribution of syringe/vaccine in November, and inoculations of those with highest priority begin immediately thereafter. I suspect they wouldn't waste millions of syringes by filling them with a vaccine not yet proven to be effective. there are also questions of shelf life and storage and transportation requirements; e.g. vaccine must be stored at a temperature between xC and yC. The Dept. of Defense is overseeing the production of syringes, etc., and is responsible for distribution. The White House is peripherally involved, and the WH task force is largely moribund. See: www.nytimes.com/2020/05/20/health/coronavirus-vaccines.html?searchResultPosition=3^^^May 20-23 . www.nytimes.com/2020/06/03/us/politics/coronavirus-vaccine-trump-moderna.html?searchResultPosition=5^^^June 4 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gustave_F._Perna^^^Bio of Gen. Gustave Perna, the Army four star general who is in charge of getting the vaccine distributed.
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 16, 2020 19:42:48 GMT -5
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Post by hchoops on Jul 16, 2020 20:02:39 GMT -5
Paywall
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Post by rickii on Jul 16, 2020 21:03:37 GMT -5
This link is to an interview, late afternoon June 2nd, between Fauci and the editor-in-chief (a physician) of the Journal of the American Medical Association. The big news coming out of the interview is that Fauci comes very close to promising a couple hundred million doses of the vaccine being available by January. The smaller news is the editor talking about Fauci's empathy, and asking whether that is a product of his Jesuit and Holy Cross education. After Tony replies, the editor calls Fauci a "national treasure" and his pronouncement is said with clearly, heart-felt emotion. Remarkable conclusion. (I have passed the link on to HC.) [ Odd there was no apparent interest in what medical school Fauci attended. I haven’t looked....where’d he go?
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Post by hc87 on Jul 16, 2020 21:35:12 GMT -5
This link is to an interview, late afternoon June 2nd, between Fauci and the editor-in-chief (a physician) of the Journal of the American Medical Association. The big news coming out of the interview is that Fauci comes very close to promising a couple hundred million doses of the vaccine being available by January. The smaller news is the editor talking about Fauci's empathy, and asking whether that is a product of his Jesuit and Holy Cross education. After Tony replies, the editor calls Fauci a "national treasure" and his pronouncement is said with clearly, heart-felt emotion. Remarkable conclusion. (I have passed the link on to HC.) [ Odd there was no apparent interest in what medical school Fauci attended. I haven’t looked....where’d he go? Cornell
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jul 16, 2020 21:35:53 GMT -5
Cornell
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jul 17, 2020 6:19:14 GMT -5
Fauci said once that Fr. Busam, who apparently 'chose' which medical schools a student would apply to, wanted him to go to Harvard. Fauci said he had worked construction during summers when he attended Holy Cross, and one summer, he worked on a project at Cornell Medical School, and decided that's where he would go.
As Fauci has said more than once, back in the day, Regis graduates would not receive a recommendation to a non-Catholic college or university, and he could not apply to Harvard. He said that HC, at that time, had one of the very top pre-med programs in the country, and I don't think that characterization was being applied to only Catholic schools. Fauci also said that Regis, in those days, was the equivalent of Bronx High School of Science, the top public high school in New York City.
He has often said his values and approach to medicine and life were formed by the Jesuits of Regis and Holy Cross, and has repeated the mantra.
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Post by hchoops on Jul 17, 2020 6:56:23 GMT -5
Growing up in NYC in the 50s- early 60s and attending another Jesuit HS, I believe that Regis was considered to be at least the equivalent to Bronx Science, if not superior.
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Post by rgs318 on Jul 17, 2020 7:08:04 GMT -5
I do remember the very strong reputation of Regis back then. In fact, among Catholic elementary schools in NJ, they placed a limit on the number of students who were "allowed" to take the Regis entrance exam. Each year, two students were allowed to try for admission. The commute was a daunting one, but the quality of the educational experience made it worthwhile for those who chose (or were chosen by) Regis.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jul 18, 2020 12:42:12 GMT -5
A graduate of Harvard, class of 2008, posted on Twitter an image of a letter that Fauci had sent to him on his senior thesis. The student had interviewed Fauci for the thesis. The interview possibly facilitated by Fauci's daughter, Jennifer, who Fauci refers to in his letter. She was in the same class as this student. It appears that the student had sent the completed thesis to Fauci as a courtesy.
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Post by hchoops on Jul 18, 2020 13:22:52 GMT -5
Wow To have a senior thesis quoted to the President ! Do you know Luke’s last name ?
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jul 18, 2020 13:26:10 GMT -5
Was this Harvard undergrad or Med school ? The Harvard student was undergrad, graduated summa cum laude. Got his Ph.D., then an MD, and is now a resident in Providence. Fauci's three daughters: One graduated from Harvard, has a Ph.D in psychology, and is doing post-doc work. A second has an undergraduate degree in computer science from Stanford, was named PAC-12 scholar athlete of the year, and works for Twitter. The third started as pre-med at Johns Hopkins, changed majors, and is now a teacher.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jul 18, 2020 13:30:12 GMT -5
Wow To have a senior thesis quoted to the President ! Do you know Luke’s last name ? Messac. He said that he felt Fauci was being overly effusive, but he'd take it. His PhD and MD are from the University of Pennsylvania. His residency is in emergency medicine.
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Post by hchoops on Jul 18, 2020 13:37:14 GMT -5
Thank you
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jul 18, 2020 13:57:07 GMT -5
What an incredibly gracious and thoughtful man
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Post by HC92 on Jul 19, 2020 8:31:43 GMT -5
Growing up in NYC in the 50s- early 60s and attending another Jesuit HS, I believe that Regis was considered to be at least the equivalent to Bronx Science, if not superior. My three first Cousins all went to Regis. They then went to Harvard, Columbia and Amherst.
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Post by sader1970 on Jul 19, 2020 8:52:05 GMT -5
Guess they couldn’t get into Holy Cross. 😉 How sad!😂
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Post by ts1970 on Jul 19, 2020 10:59:23 GMT -5
My back door neighbor growing up in the Forest Hill section of Newark, NJ was a 1967 grad of Regis H.S. He visited HC in the fall of 1966 when I was a freshman and said he liked the beautiful campus but later chose Georgetown for undergrad and then went to NYU law. At the time he was very interested in government and politics so I think that’s the reason he chose DC over Worcester.........and maybe the weather?
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Jul 19, 2020 21:32:50 GMT -5
Fauci said once that Fr. Busam, who apparently 'chose' which medical schools a student would apply to, wanted him to go to Harvard. Fauci said he had worked construction during summers when he attended Holy Cross, and one summer, he worked on a project at Cornell Medical School, and decided that's where he would go. As Fauci has said more than once, back in the day, Regis graduates would not receive a recommendation to a non-Catholic college or university, and he could not apply to Harvard. He said that HC, at that time, had one of the very top pre-med programs in the country, and I don't think that characterization was being applied to only Catholic schools. Fauci also said that Regis, in those days, was the equivalent of Bronx High School of Science, the top public high school in New York City. He has often said his values and approach to medicine and life were formed by the Jesuits of Regis and Holy Cross, and has repeated the mantra. It is true that for a long time, Regis students were not permitted to apply to non-Catholic colleges. This lasted until at least the 1970's when private school tuition started to sharply outpace increases seen at state schools. Stuyvesant is now considered the top public HS in NYC and has been at least since I was a prep. Bx Science probably 4th now behind Stuy, Brooklyn Tech and Hunter College HS. But all great schools -- I would love for my daughter to go to Bronx Science in 13 years.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Jul 19, 2020 22:28:02 GMT -5
Fauci said once that Fr. Busam, who apparently 'chose' which medical schools a student would apply to, wanted him to go to Harvard. Fauci said he had worked construction during summers when he attended Holy Cross, and one summer, he worked on a project at Cornell Medical School, and decided that's where he would go. As Fauci has said more than once, back in the day, Regis graduates would not receive a recommendation to a non-Catholic college or university, and he could not apply to Harvard. He said that HC, at that time, had one of the very top pre-med programs in the country, and I don't think that characterization was being applied to only Catholic schools. Fauci also said that Regis, in those days, was the equivalent of Bronx High School of Science, the top public high school in New York City. He has often said his values and approach to medicine and life were formed by the Jesuits of Regis and Holy Cross, and has repeated the mantra. Fr. Busam was my corridor prefect. Trivia question, can anyone name the dorm and floor? Bonus question, what was Fr. Busam’s nickname?
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