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Post by HC92 on Jul 21, 2020 18:33:24 GMT -5
What used to be the infirmary rooms are now dorm rooms - both of my children lived on the floor immediately over health services which served as the infirmary rooms in the 80's. They MIGHT have preserved a couple of rooms on the ground floor should a student or 2 need medical isolation but don't know for sure. All that said, it would not take much to isolate on floor over the health services offices. Just a matter of locking some doors and turn off key card access. In fact, that floor my kids lived on probably has a dozen or so rooms and would make an ideal isolation floor. Each room can accommodate a couple of students with a private bathroom. I was quarantined on the floor immediately above health services in January 1990 for a week. Was released the day we played #17 LaSalle in basketball and went straight to the Hart Center upon my release.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jul 21, 2020 18:34:14 GMT -5
Three courts and a volleyball court.
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Post by HC16 on Jul 21, 2020 18:39:52 GMT -5
Three courts and a volleyball court. One of the basketball courts (generally the middle one) would serve as the volleyball court when needed when I was there. That was generally all first semester and some second semester, but that may have changed with the Luth.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jul 21, 2020 18:40:47 GMT -5
or maybe the third court was also the volleyball court. This is consistent with HC16's post.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jul 21, 2020 18:50:58 GMT -5
This is a good indication of the width. IIRC, the scaffolding was there to repair the brickwork. 100 feet looks generous.
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Post by timholycross on Jul 21, 2020 19:08:55 GMT -5
They got rid of the upstairs stands in favor of a small pullout bleacher down below, it would appear.
I might have been in there 2 or 3 times after they put in the rubberized surface in the 70s...were there other face lifts after that?
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jul 22, 2020 8:34:57 GMT -5
Lafayette going the University of Phoenix route.
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Post by purplehaze on Jul 22, 2020 9:24:19 GMT -5
Lehigh board reporting the same will be announced by them today or tmro - Laf is apparently offering a 10 pct decrease in tuition for the fall semester What does all of this do to basketball ? (or maybe I'm afraid to answer my own question)
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Post by hchoops on Jul 22, 2020 9:47:09 GMT -5
Well, if Lehigh and Laffayette go all online in first semester, it looks as if hoops and all winter sports will then have to wait until January and just play 18 league games. Will hockey be the only sport played during the first semester ?
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Post by lou on Jul 22, 2020 10:04:58 GMT -5
Majority studying from home, meaning almost half the students will be on campus?
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jul 22, 2020 10:13:11 GMT -5
Well, if Lehigh and Laffayette go all online in first semester, it looks as if hoops and all winter sports will then have to wait until January and just play 18 league games. Will hockey be the only sport played during the first semester ? I would be delighted to see us play even the conference schedule in basketball. We can only hope
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Post by purplehaze on Jul 22, 2020 10:37:53 GMT -5
Lou, No - looks like 90 pct or more at home - maybe some 'stem' students on campus occasionally - here is their president's statement: fall2020.lafayette.edu/2020/07/22/important-update-path-to-fall-2020/Regarding KY 75's post from May (as the parent of a rising soph at Fordham) this week the school reiterated their plan to bring students back to campus for an Aug. 26th start of classes. My daughter has her room assignment and the bill includes 'room and board' for the semester, although they have said that students will not return to campus after Thanksgiving. So it looks like Fordham is in the 10 pct category not moving with the masses. Classes will be split between in person instruction and on line.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jul 22, 2020 11:44:19 GMT -5
Two cents worth of speculation. Lehigh and Lafayette are making this decision because they can't get sufficient, timely testing. Without testing, you are dead in the water. Several days ago, the largest COVID testing lab in the country said it was at capacity, and couldn't perform additional tests in the fall... Nationally, test results are taking longer and longer to be reported, often 7+ days. Some states are now back to the early days of the pandemic, changing priorities for who can get tested Asymptomatic college students don't make the cut. This is not true for all states. Both New York State and Massachusetts developed a robust testing capacity in-state. Holy Cross has contracted with the Broad Institute, an institute in Cambridge jointly run by Harvard and MIT. to do the test analysis. Broad promises results within 24 hours, no more than 36 hours. The tests for Broad can be done by the students themselves, once taught. Holy Cross is one of a number of MA colleges and universities that have apparently contracted with Broad. The Broad contracts were apparently arranged by the state's special task group on Re-opening Higher Ed., which was chaired by the President of WPI. IMO, HC is open on-campus ONLY because it has this testing contract with Broad. And without Broad physically being in place and having highly sophisticated and automated testing equipment in-place, then HC is likely scrambling for testing, and probably in the same boat as Lehigh and Lafayette. www.ft.com/content/4c9b4ae0-0559-4fe2-8806-53c6a8e3ab3aSee also: www.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/columnist/dan-wolken/2020/07/21/nfl-college-football-increase-strain-covid-19-testing-capacity/5482338002/www.bostonglobe.com/2020/07/20/nation/backlog-covid-19-tests-imperils-push-contain-infections/www.washingtonpost.com/local/covid-test-results-delays-dc-virginia-maryland/2020/07/17/0f773006-c546-11ea-8ffe-372be8d82298_story.html^^^ Up to two weeks and longer to get test results in MD, DC, VA And as POTUS announced yesterday, 'it's going to get worse before it starts getting better'. _______________________________________________________________________ Broad Institute COVID testing www.broadinstitute.org/coronavirus/covid-19Broad COVID testing dashboard covid19-testing.broadinstitute.org/College and university testing by Broad. www.broadinstitute.org/fall-2020-college-and-university-testing-discussions
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Post by purplehaze on Jul 22, 2020 16:01:59 GMT -5
The testing protocol is indeed a crucial piece of the solution but so is the faculty's willingness to adjust to the circumstances to teach on campus - today's report from a Lafayette poster: My understanding is the FACULTY voted not teach in person and are DEMANDING full pay. !!!
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jul 22, 2020 16:58:35 GMT -5
today's report from a Lafayette poster: My understanding is the FACULTY voted not teach in person and are DEMANDING full pay. !!! Ya don’t say. I really don’t understand why colleges cannot have all students attend class in person with professors teaching the class in person. For those who do not feel comfortable attending the class, all classes will be available online. For those professors who do not feel comfortable teaching in person, he / she may teach from their living room. It is very unfortunate that the educational experiences and development of young minds of millions of people are going to be severely negatively impacted when it can be avoided.
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Post by rgs318 on Jul 22, 2020 17:46:08 GMT -5
Sounds like the Lafayette faculty think they are in MLB (except for making hundreds of thousands less).
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jul 23, 2020 6:09:48 GMT -5
The testing protocol is indeed a crucial piece of the solution but so is the faculty's willingness to adjust to the circumstances to teach on campus - today's report from a Lafayette poster: My understanding is the FACULTY voted not teach in person and are DEMANDING full pay. !!! If the Lafayette administration only discovered the position of the faculty in the third week of July, then the administration is incompetent, because they can't plan their way out of a paper bag. I don't believe that to be the case. More likely that the school was having difficulty putting in place all the elements of its plan to provide a safe and healthy campus; and/or concerns about rising infection rates in that region; and/or community / town concerns about Lafayette's returning students to campus were too great, including concerns about limited hospital capacity in Easton. The faculty, rightfully, would bail on condition one. According to a Boston Globe headline this morning, the town and residents of Amherst are none too happy about UMass bringing the students back.
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Post by hcpride on Jul 23, 2020 6:53:30 GMT -5
Inertia, science-based or otherwise, is a very powerful thing. If Lehigh winds up doing what Lafayette just did, does that mean HC will bend in that direction (essentially shutting down campus)?
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jul 23, 2020 8:34:37 GMT -5
Inertia, science-based or otherwise, is a very powerful thing. If Lehigh winds up doing what Lafayette just did, does that mean HC will bend in that direction (essentially shutting down campus)? No.
Holy Cross already has the catalog set: what classes will meet when, and where, and taught by who. They have modified classrooms, they have obtained visor shields for faculty (and I assume students) who cannot use a cloth mask in that in-person course. This was done so students could declare their intent by July 19 to 1> live on-campus; 2> live off-campus, >3 live at home and commute, 4>live at home and enroll remotely; >5 withdraw for the semester, or 6> defer enrollment for a year (take a gap year). Now I suppose if HC students had overwhelmingly chosen 4, 5, 6, then what's the point of opening the campus? On July 17, the tally based on about a third of the students was about 70% on; 25% off or remote; 4% live at home and commute. Very small numbers of withdrawals and deferrals. The 5 and 6 number values seemed set, as both actions require approval by the college.
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Post by bison137 on Jul 23, 2020 10:57:49 GMT -5
Fwiw, Bucknell's tally as of yesterday was 300 out of 3600 students opting to study on-line this semester.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jul 23, 2020 12:00:20 GMT -5
Fwiw, Bucknell's tally as of yesterday was 300 out of 3600 students opting to study on-line this semester. My recollection of the percentages for the first 1000+ responses was about 90 percent saying they would be in Worcester, in some manner,for the semester.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jul 24, 2020 6:25:46 GMT -5
Lafayette's decision was not based on a vote by the faculty. www.mcall.com/coronavirus/mc-nws-coronavirus-lafayette-online-classes-20200722-2xuhovrmrvc2pftm3am376frve-story.htmlIn other words, Lafayette fell back in the queue with respect to getting its tests analyzed. Holy Cross has a testing contract with Broad Institute. Broad said it was negotiating testing contracts with two dozen colleges and universities in New England and eastern NY. Broad has a capacity of 35,000 tests a day; was currently running about 7,500 tests a day. Assuming, Broad reserved non-university testing at 10,000 tests, that's 25,000 tests for higher education, or about 1,000 tests a day per school. 1,000 tests a day is suspiciously close to HC's announced testing plan for the start of the fall semester. Broad also promises test results in 24 hours, no later than 36 hours. That is the type of turnaround a school would need if it were testing athletes before a game with an opponent.
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Post by alum on Jul 24, 2020 11:28:11 GMT -5
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Post by timholycross on Jul 24, 2020 16:43:51 GMT -5
Isn't part of "moving in" and/or registration getting a test?
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jul 24, 2020 17:30:51 GMT -5
Isn't part of "moving in" and/or registration getting a test? All HC students, whether living off-campus, on-campus, or commuting from home, will be tested within several days of their arrival in Worcester. Students living on, or coming onto the campus, which includes commuters and off-campus students, will be tested regularly thereafter. Tests may become less frequent if positive tests are nil, or very close to nil, as the semester wears on. This testing is at no cost to the student. This sort of testing protocol is what Lafayette was apparently unable to match.
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