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Post by WorcesterGray on Jun 13, 2020 15:42:48 GMT -5
Don't believe this has been posted.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jun 13, 2020 16:31:14 GMT -5
Re: athletics; conferences are still working on this.
My reading tea leaves: Re: fannies in the seats at games. Few, if any. Visitors to campus will be limited between the start of classes and Thanksgiving.
Re: post-season playoffs for fall sports, doubtful.
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Post by princetoncrusader on Jun 13, 2020 19:34:20 GMT -5
Why would social distancing be a problem at Fitton Field?
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jun 13, 2020 20:50:30 GMT -5
Why would social distancing be a problem at Fitton Field? It appears the college wants to limit the general public interacting with students. In effect, the college is creating a cocoon. I will speculate that the college will frown on pub-crawling etc., if such establishments are allowed to re-open this fall in Worcester. One of every 35 residents in Worcester has tested positive. That's roughly double the infection rate for the Commonwealth, and Massachusetts had one of the highest per capita rates in the country. Although some states that had lagged are quickly catching up by re-opening watering holes. www.tampabay.com/arts-entertainment/2020/05/27/the-party-has-started-tampa-bay-bars-are-open-just-not-all-of-them/Florida is now up to 2500 new cases a day, 8x what MA is experiencing.
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Post by timholycross on Jun 14, 2020 6:14:57 GMT -5
Yes, Fr. Burroughs flat-out states "limited visitors" (and the College can most certainly control that); but does not say anything about "limited departures"; I'd be surprised they would even attempt such a thing.
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Post by hcpride on Jun 14, 2020 7:39:53 GMT -5
I think the emphasis is on crowds/crowding/social distancing on campus...with masks and hygiene as applicable.
(Of course we'll still have the daily arrival and interaction of hundreds of students and staff who do not reside on campus as well as departures/returns of resident students from/to campus.)
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Post by HC92 on Jun 14, 2020 8:45:45 GMT -5
Allowing 5K fans to spread out around cavernous Fitton would seem to be among the least risky parts of any reopening plan for HC. Allowing the teams to play, for example, would be far more risky than having fans there. Having a bunch of students living in dorms and sharing bathrooms and going to parties would also seem to be dramatically more risky than anything to do with football.
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Post by hchoops on Jun 14, 2020 9:27:46 GMT -5
We could go back to ‘60s rules: check in, early curfews, even mandatory weekday mass
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 14, 2020 10:46:24 GMT -5
We could go back to ‘60s rules: check in, early curfews, even mandatory weekday mass Perhaps give each player three family/friend passes and build from there as you develop a good system to keep people safe and not running into each other. The textbook prescriptions for safety are unfortunately different from the actual casualness you see more and more in everyday life.
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Post by DiMarz on Jun 15, 2020 21:32:18 GMT -5
Why would social distancing be a problem at Fitton Field? It appears the college wants to limit the general public interacting with students. In effect, the college is creating a cocoon. I will speculate that the college will frown on pub-crawling etc., if such establishments are allowed to re-open this fall in Worcester. One of every 35 residents in Worcester has tested positive. That's roughly double the infection rate for the Commonwealth, and Massachusetts had one of the highest per capita rates in the country. Although some states that had lagged are quickly catching up by re-opening watering holes. www.tampabay.com/arts-entertainment/2020/05/27/the-party-has-started-tampa-bay-bars-are-open-just-not-all-of-them/Florida is now up to 2500 new cases a day, 8x what MA is experiencing. Here is the latest numbers for the state....look closely at the total number of cases and deaths...Subtract the nursing home deaths and the numbers are very low overall.....The numbers is Mass are trending in the right direction..
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jun 23, 2020 8:01:19 GMT -5
The Holy Cross webinar for parents and students on re-opening
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Post by hc6774 on Jun 23, 2020 8:26:49 GMT -5
We could go back to ‘60s rules: check in, early curfews, even mandatory weekday mass plenty of social distancing at those masses
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Post by alum on Jun 23, 2020 10:12:59 GMT -5
The Holy Cross webinar for parents and students on re-opening Everyone should watch this or, at least, watch Father's "closing argument" at about 47:30. High points: 1. There will be an announcement in early July with a specific plan. 2. The aim is for two students to a room and, to do so, they plan on acquiring apartment space or even modular housing. 3. Students who have symptoms will be sent home, if possible, as they are in other years with flu symptoms. Students who live too far away to travel or who cannot go home for other reasons will be housed somehow. 4. Classes will be available online (or at least most classes and this will be made known at registration.) 5. Students will have to agree to a social compact. He didn't go into detail but I got the impression that social life is going to be sharply limited. (He compared it to the "boot camp" of a military, a religious order novitiate, a Wall Street internship or the parenting of preschoolers.) Since it sounds like they intend to be serious about isolation/quarantine, I am having a hard time seeing how an athletic team can get through a season. I am thinking that once one athlete is exposed, much of her team will be quarantined. There will be more details to come, but this is going to be hard. Dr. Boucher gave a good clear overview of the disease and reopening strategies.
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Post by hcpride on Jun 23, 2020 11:48:24 GMT -5
Thanks for the summary. #3 will surprise those who think the protocols are to prevent the spread to those outside campus who might be more vulnerable.
My nephew was involved in a meningitis (the absolutely deadly and very serious kind) quarantine as part of his college lax team. Contact tracing also. As I recall, in his case it was regular health checks and something like a 10-day quarantine. Not the whole team and (as I recall) and two games were shifted. Kids worked on lone drills. I see your point that a few different episodes in one season could really hammer a larger team and a small team could lose a lot of a season.
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Post by alum on Jun 23, 2020 11:51:48 GMT -5
Thanks for the summary. # 3 will surprise those who think the protocols are to prevent the spread to those outside campus who might be more vulnerable. My nephew was involved in a meningitis (the absolutely deadly and very serious kind) quarantine as part of his college lax team. Contact tracing also. As I recall, in his case it was regular health checks and something like a 10-day quarantine. Not the whole team and (as I recall) and two games were shifted. Kids worked on lone drills. I see you point that a few different episodes in one season could really hammer a larger team and a small team could lose a lot of a season. No, they are very worried about spreading the virus to faculty, staff, and the community. That is what is driving much of this. I assume that they won't send anyone home who can't drive there, but he wasn't perfectly clear about that.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jun 23, 2020 12:21:57 GMT -5
My sense of those who would be asked to isolate at home are those who live Worcester County, and those who live within a reasonable driving distance, perhaps an hour's drive. Anyone who has to wait isolated on campus for a parent to drive eight hours to pick them up, or who need to return home via plane, train, or bus, is staying on campus.
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Post by timholycross on Jun 23, 2020 17:44:23 GMT -5
They can't send students home to parents who are vulnerable for one reason or another.
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Post by Tom on Jun 24, 2020 11:00:30 GMT -5
They can't send students home to parents who are vulnerable for one reason or another. In my younger days I recall being told you don't have to go home, but you can't stay here. This type of conversation usually occurred around last call
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jun 24, 2020 17:46:02 GMT -5
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 24, 2020 17:49:26 GMT -5
This "hoax" has staying power.
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Post by hc6774 on Jul 4, 2020 6:49:12 GMT -5
Don't believe this has been posted.
Financial aid packages issued to the incoming freshmen were based on pre COVID assumptions. Has HC issued financial aid packages to 'returning' students? I believe it has announce that the standard/minimum student/family contribution of $4500 would be reconsidered in light of the high unemployment rates. Has any school?
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jul 4, 2020 8:17:49 GMT -5
Don't believe this has been posted. Financial aid packages issued to the incoming freshmen were based on pre COVID assumptions. Has HC issued financial aid packages to 'returning' students? I believe it has announce that the standard/minimum student/family contribution of $4500 would be reconsidered in light of the high unemployment rates. Has any school? HC is increasing fin aid for returning students by $3 million as students were unable to secure expected level of summer employment. From the total, it appears that this additional aid will be disbursed to most of the students who receive need-based financial aid. This appears to be a grant, not a loan. As a result of the pandemic and unemployment, HC did say that it received what apparently was a relatively small number of new applications for financial aid from current students not receiving such.
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 4, 2020 8:31:57 GMT -5
Financial aid packages issued to the incoming freshmen were based on pre COVID assumptions. Has HC issued financial aid packages to 'returning' students? I believe it has announce that the standard/minimum student/family contribution of $4500 would be reconsidered in light of the high unemployment rates. Has any school? HC is increasing fin aid for returning students by $3 million as students were unable to secure expected level of summer employment. From the total, it appears that this additional aid will be disbursed to most of the students who receive need-based financial aid. This appears to be a grant, not a loan. As a result of the pandemic and unemployment, HC did say that it received what apparently was a relatively small number of new applications for financial aid from current students not receiving such. I hope that small number of new applications is not an ominous sign of some families throwing in the towel altogether and determining they can't afford Holy Cross.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jul 4, 2020 11:28:16 GMT -5
I’d guess that the unemployment % has been and continues to be lower for HC parents than for the population at large.
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Post by HC92 on Jul 5, 2020 21:57:28 GMT -5
I ran into a current HC student today. He was wearing an HC sweatshirt. I was wearing an HC t-shirt (shocking, I know). So I chatted him up. Have to say he wasn’t as friendly as the usual HC student I run into. Anyway, I asked him what he thought about how the upcoming semester would play out and he said, “I’m not going to go back to take one class in person.” Didn’t seem to bode well for how the student body might be approaching another semester of mostly online learning.
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