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Post by hchoops on Feb 13, 2022 12:18:54 GMT -5
If Gates does not return, next season looks cloudy at best.
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Post by trimster on Feb 13, 2022 13:30:16 GMT -5
If Gares does not return, next season looks cloudy at best. Obviously GG graduating in May would be a big loss but I wouldn't underestimate the development of both Coulibaly and Kenney. Essentially, they are both frosh and both have come a long way since the season began.
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Post by hchoops on Feb 13, 2022 15:04:28 GMT -5
Ok, but neither has the ceiling of GG. Also, probably only one could be on the court at a time. Neither really has power forward skills, especially defensively.
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Post by HC92 on Feb 13, 2022 17:47:59 GMT -5
Have to think Gates will return. Can’t imagine he’s on track to graduate yet if the plan all along was to stay through Spring 2023. And the recent success gives us all hope that we can make a run at the tltle at least next year.
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 13, 2022 17:56:25 GMT -5
Will Austin Lewis be back?
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Post by HC92 on Feb 13, 2022 17:59:38 GMT -5
Will Austin Lewis be back? I hope so but it is odd that he doesn’t ever play a single minute. Makes me think something is up.
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Post by timholycross on Feb 13, 2022 19:31:57 GMT -5
Blake Verbeek scored 27 points in 13 games for Grand Valley in D2 ball. Averages 3 1/2 min per game
Have to think that a HC degree is worth more than Grand Valley's. Should have stayed even if it meant he was glued to the bench.
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 13, 2022 19:38:18 GMT -5
He won't have to look back now and always wonder how things would have turned out if he bet on himself as a basketball player.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Feb 13, 2022 20:44:47 GMT -5
Maybe BV didn't have a choice? Or at least one that was paid for?
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Post by hchoops on Feb 13, 2022 20:49:26 GMT -5
That is highly unlikely. If a school does that, it does not take long for that to spread and severely hinder recruiting
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Post by Tom on Feb 14, 2022 9:20:53 GMT -5
Will Austin Lewis be back? Is there reason to believe he wouldn't be back? Are we speculating that he is sufficiently unhappy about playing time to transfer? I don't know anything about Verbeek. Looking at him as an individual, his situation isn't that much different than Lewis. Verbeek in the larger scheme was part of a mass exodus. The fact that many others left at the same time as Verbeek may or may not be relevant in his decision.
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Post by newfieguy74 on Feb 14, 2022 9:55:55 GMT -5
I have no idea whether AL is leaving (I assume he isn't until I hear otherwise), but it was clear with BV that he wasn't a D1 player. I don't think I would say that about AL.
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Post by sader1970 on Feb 14, 2022 10:08:43 GMT -5
Ever notice that in team huddles that Austin has his arm around Rabs in virtually every huddle. My impression, and that’s all it is, is that the two of them are compadres.
Austin gets virtually no floor time; Rabs getting minimal time. I suspect enough for Rabs to stay and develop; and that apparent friendship may be a factor in Austin staying beyond the lack of court time.
Ahhh, reading the purple tea leaves!😂
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Post by Tom on Feb 14, 2022 10:11:01 GMT -5
Ever notice that in team huddles that Austin has his arm around Rabs in virtually every huddle. My impression, and that’s all it is, is that the two of them are compadres. Austin gets virtually no floor time; Rabs getting minimal time. I suspect enough for Rabs to stay and develop; and that apparent friendship may be a factor in Austin staying beyond the lack of court time. Ahhh, reading the purple tea leaves!😂 Might just be a case of everyone else's shoulders being too low for Austin to comfortably put his arm around
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Post by sader1970 on Feb 14, 2022 10:12:48 GMT -5
I know you jest but watch closer, Austin’s arm is often around Rabs’ waist.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Feb 14, 2022 11:07:01 GMT -5
Wow, really off to the races with the Lewis story line, huh?
Maybe he's just physically not ready to play at the D1 level yet, and that was understood going into this season?
There are 80 minutes in a game for the 4 & 5 positions -- it seems like the ideal breakdown that's working itself out is Gates playing 30-35, Kenny 20-30 (foul-dependent), and Louth 15-20(+, matchup-dependent) -- that's 65-85 minutes right there. Martindale is also playing some "stretch 4" to add extra shooting for quick spurts, and Rabinovich is ahead of Lewis on the depth chart for remaining minutes.
HCBN is (rightfully) focused on winning games, not on trying to get everyone onto the floor and evenly distribute minutes.
As we've seen with Townsell and Dorsey this year, if Lewis keeps working and improving, he will get his opportunity when he's ready.
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Post by rgs318 on Feb 14, 2022 11:12:39 GMT -5
I had thought that Lewis might use this year to physically develop while learning his position and then next year start getting some playing time - with that time increasing as he developed. Of course, I must be wrong because there is no intrigue or hidden agenda there. PS: Seeing the enthusiasm shown by Rabs on the bench and at timeouts in a game where he never saw playing time is most impressive to me. I think it shows he likes being a part of this team/program. But, again, that may just be me. PPS: What about Townsel? Will he be graduating in the Spring or might he be brought back for one more year?
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Post by trimster on Feb 14, 2022 11:14:53 GMT -5
Wow, really off to the races with the Lewis story line, huh? Maybe he's just physically not ready to play at the D1 level yet, and that was understood going into this season? There are 80 minutes in a game for the 4 & 5 positions -- it seems like the ideal breakdown that's working itself out is Gates playing 30-35, Kenny 20-30 (foul-dependent), and Louth 15-20(+, matchup-dependent) -- that's 65-85 minutes right there. Martindale is also playing some "stretch 4" to add extra shooting for quick spurts, and Rabinovich is ahead of Lewis on the depth chart for remaining minutes. HCBN is (rightfully) focused on winning games, not on trying to get everyone onto the floor and evenly distribute minutes. As we've seen with Townsell and Dorsey this year, if Lewis keeps working and improving, he will get his opportunity when he's ready. Good points. Lewis looks like he has a small frame so perhaps his best bet going forward at HC is to improve his quickness so he can play the 3.
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Post by hchoops on Feb 14, 2022 11:26:22 GMT -5
Significantly Improving quickness at 6’11” and 20-21 years old does not happen frequently
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Post by trimster on Feb 14, 2022 11:32:20 GMT -5
Significantly Improving quickness at 6’10” and 19-20 years old does not happen frequently Neither does getting bigger when you are working with a small chassis.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Feb 14, 2022 11:51:35 GMT -5
Wow, really off to the races with the Lewis story line, huh? Maybe he's just physically not ready to play at the D1 level yet, and that was understood going into this season? There are 80 minutes in a game for the 4 & 5 positions -- it seems like the ideal breakdown that's working itself out is Gates playing 30-35, Kenny 20-30 (foul-dependent), and Louth 15-20(+, matchup-dependent) -- that's 65-85 minutes right there. Martindale is also playing some "stretch 4" to add extra shooting for quick spurts, and Rabinovich is ahead of Lewis on the depth chart for remaining minutes. HCBN is (rightfully) focused on winning games, not on trying to get everyone onto the floor and evenly distribute minutes. As we've seen with Townsell and Dorsey this year, if Lewis keeps working and improving, he will get his opportunity when he's ready. Good points. Lewis looks like he has a small frame so perhaps his best bet going forward at HC is to improve his quickness so he can play the 3. Based on his Twitter, it appears that Lewis’s favorite player is Kristaps Porzingis. I’d rather go to the dentist than watch the NBA, but doesn’t he play the 4/5 positions with range beyond the 3-point line? If that’s who Lewis models his game after, it would be a great complement to Louth and Kenny’s physicality down low.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Feb 14, 2022 12:03:29 GMT -5
PS: Seeing the enthusiasm shown by Rabs on the bench and at timeouts in a game where he never saw playing time is most impressive to me. I think it shows he likes being a part of this team/program. But, again, that may just be me. I've noticed that as well, Rob. Seems like a great teammate. And you never know - even this year there could be a game where frontcourt foul trouble creates an opportunity for him to make a valuable contribution.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Feb 14, 2022 12:04:22 GMT -5
PS: Seeing the enthusiasm shown by Rabs on the bench and at timeouts in a game where he never saw playing time is most impressive to me. I think it shows he likes being a part of this team/program. But, again, that may just be me. I've noticed that as well, Rob. Seems like a great teammate. And you never know - even this year there could be a game where frontcourt foul trouble creates an opportunity for him to make a valuable contribution. Thinking back, he was at a LOT of HC games before he got here.
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Post by HC92 on Feb 14, 2022 12:20:00 GMT -5
Rabs really wants to be at HC and seems willing to do whatever is asked of him. As Dave notes, he seemed to be at every home game when he was in high school to support the team. He’ll have a role going forward as a big who will work hard, play some defense and get some tough rebounds. Whether that’s 5 mpg or 25, time will tell.
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Post by DiMarz on Feb 14, 2022 13:33:41 GMT -5
Someplace this season, Coach Nelson mentioned Lewis will be a very good player when his time comes....Sounds to me like Lewis is a typical big at D-1 schools. Takes a while to get strong enough, and gain the physicality needed at this level... Who said "The best thing about freshman is they become sophomores."
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