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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jun 24, 2020 10:54:29 GMT -5
Glad to see baseball, along with other sports, resuming.
I do not believe a collection of guys in their 20s and 30s, who are in peak physical condition, running around on a field or court together poses any issues. Some will test positive for the virus and those that do will recover.
Let's find a way to smartly and safely protect the minority, while allowing for the overwhelming majority to get back to their lives.
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Post by trimster on Jun 24, 2020 11:01:52 GMT -5
With the continued outbreak of covid-19, I really don't think we are seeing any pro or college team sports for the rest of 2020. There are just too many variables, contingencies etc....nearly impossible to do this logistically if were being honest with ourselves. Sadly, I have felt that way for a while. Look at what has happened in the cases where football players have been allowed back on college campuses. If everyone would just wear a mask for the next month, I think things would look a lot different. Kind of weird that people refuse to do that while clamoring for a return to normal. That is probably the one thing all of us could do to hasten the return to a life as we knew it.
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Post by hc87 on Jun 24, 2020 11:48:49 GMT -5
I'm not on the "side" of there should not be any sports without a vaccine moving forward....I'm just looking at this situation objectively. Just today, the NYC Marathon has been cancelled and Brooks Koepka has pulled out of this week's tourney due to his caddy testing positive. Like most things in life, $$$ is mostly driving the return of professional (and major college) sports. They are going to try and do all they can possibly do to bring back sports and that revenue....I just continue to believe that this is going to be very difficult to do during these times.
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Post by timholycross on Jun 24, 2020 15:50:29 GMT -5
Difficult, but not impossible. I'd put money on at least one pro league succeeding. Colleges and high schools I'm very pessimistic.
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Post by bfoley82 on Jun 24, 2020 18:04:34 GMT -5
When six PGA guys have to withdraw this weekend, he is onto something...I doubt MLB gets 1/2 way through their season before they cancel it. NBA/NHL won't restart and College/Pro Football should not be played
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Post by bfoley82 on Jun 24, 2020 18:05:48 GMT -5
Glad to see baseball, along with other sports, resuming. I do not believe a collection of guys in their 20s and 30s, who are in peak physical condition, running around on a field or court together poses any issues. Some will test positive for the virus and those that do will recover. Let's find a way to smartly and safely protect the minority, while allowing for the overwhelming majority to get back to their lives. but what happens to the MLB guys that have diabetes? or the NHL player like Max Domi? etc...
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Post by hiltonheadcrusader on Jun 24, 2020 18:24:06 GMT -5
If injury, illness or susceptibility due to a pre-existing condition dictate that one should stay out of harms way, then so be it. Otherwise strap on the pads and sell tickets. When I head north this Fall I look forward to watching the Crusaders in person. Go Cross ☦️🏈
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Jun 24, 2020 18:57:03 GMT -5
If injury, illness or susceptibility due to a pre-existing condition dictate that one should stay out of harms way, then so be it. Otherwise strap on the pads and sell tickets. When I head north this Fall I look forward to watching the Crusaders in person. Go Cross ☦️🏈 Agreed. Let individuals who have certain conditions make decisions for themselves. I’m sure there will be some horror story somewhere among the thousands of NCAA student athletes that will have many calling for the cancellation of anything. But I’m sure every year some NCAA student athlete somewhere dies of the flu or other freak virus. As as far as going to games, I’m probably personally not going to Fitton this year even if allowed. I would just feel too bad knowing that I could infect other in stands, especially considering age range of average HC football fan.
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Post by efg72 on Jun 24, 2020 19:08:45 GMT -5
But as has been said by every epidemiologist, Covid is far more serious than the flu for older people and and those with pre existing conditions, such as athletes with asthma. While I am in the vulnerable population, I have had four team members/family hospitalized because of asthma immunology/t cell approach might be the answer if anybody wants manuscripts on tcells let me know being pushed by former DOD and CIA officials DADO might have better information
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Post by hchoops on Jun 24, 2020 20:45:42 GMT -5
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Post by timholycross on Jun 24, 2020 21:44:24 GMT -5
They are playing pro soccer in England (a country that is also coming out of hibernation), a contact sport. Why the nattering nabobs of negativism continue to insist you can't play pro basketball, baseball or hockey in the US, I'm perplexed.
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Post by hchoops on Jun 24, 2020 22:01:18 GMT -5
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Post by hcpride on Jun 25, 2020 4:31:47 GMT -5
They are playing pro soccer in England (a country that is also coming out of hibernation), a contact sport. Why the nattering nabobs of negativism continue to insist you can't play pro basketball, baseball or hockey in the US, I'm perplexed. It’s been 5 weeks since the Bundesliga opened for play (with training preceding that) in the major German cities and none of their athletes have died of Covid-19. That, of course, is not a surprise given the science and data.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Jun 25, 2020 5:46:17 GMT -5
Whats the logic behind restrictions on air travel and overnights? Costs? Why not let the schools make those decisions themselves?
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Post by HC92 on Jun 25, 2020 6:28:26 GMT -5
Whats the logic behind restrictions on air travel and overnights? Costs? Why not let the schools make those decisions themselves? Much more exposure to other people in airports especially, but also hotels.
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Post by hchoops on Jun 25, 2020 6:52:20 GMT -5
Airplanes, esp crowded ones, are like petri dishes. That is one of the reasons that air travel has been significantly reduced during the pandemic.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jun 25, 2020 7:01:13 GMT -5
They are playing pro soccer in England (a country that is also coming out of hibernation), a contact sport. Why the nattering nabobs of negativism continue to insist you can't play pro basketball, baseball or hockey in the US, I'm perplexed. It’s been 5 weeks since the Bundesliga opened for play (with training preceding that) in the major German cities and none of their athletes have died of Covid-19. That, of course, is not a surprise given the science and data. But what about the scorekeeper, coaches, and referees???
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jun 25, 2020 7:04:31 GMT -5
Whats the logic behind restrictions on air travel and overnights? Costs? Why not let the schools make those decisions themselves? Much more exposure to other people in airports especially, but also hotels. Fewer scheduled flights, fewer seats on the flights that are scheduled ( e.g., no occupying middle seats), potential exposure (744 TSA agents have tested positive as of most recent report and continued new positive tests being recorded daily). Hotels, uncertainty over local policies on mandatory mask-wearing, and hotel policies on room-cleaning and common areas. Are dining areas open, and if so, at what occupancy?
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Post by hcpride on Jun 25, 2020 7:23:14 GMT -5
It’s been 5 weeks since the Bundesliga opened for play (with training preceding that) in the major German cities and none of their athletes have died of Covid-19. That, of course, is not a surprise given the science and data. But what about the scorekeeper, coaches, and referees??? I did the research and as far as I can determine there have been no deaths of Bundesliga players, coaches, trainers, owners, referees, scorekeepers, bus drivers, camera crews, mascots, hangers-on, etc. in the 5 weeks (plus preseason training) since the season restarted. Given the narrative and the media one imagines that would have been front page news.
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Post by hchoops on Jun 25, 2020 7:28:50 GMT -5
My guess is that SoV was being cynical with his post. Germany has been successful in combatting Covid. The US has not.
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Post by hcpride on Jun 25, 2020 7:44:17 GMT -5
Glad to see baseball, along with other sports, resuming. I do not believe a collection of guys in their 20s and 30s, who are in peak physical condition, running around on a field or court together poses any issues. Some will test positive for the virus and those that do will recover. Let's find a way to smartly and safely protect the minority, while allowing for the overwhelming majority to get back to their lives. but what happens to the MLB guys that have diabetes? or the NHL player like Max Domi? etc... Probably the same thing as happens to Bundesliga guys who have diabetes. Have any US athletes (college or pro) died of Covid-19?
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Post by HC92 on Jun 25, 2020 7:51:25 GMT -5
but what happens to the MLB guys that have diabetes? or the NHL player like Max Domi? etc... Probably the same thing as happens to Bundesliga guys who have diabetes. Have any US athletes (college or pro) died of Covid-19? Important to understand Type 1 vs Type 2 diabetes here. I would be surprised if any professional athlete has Type 2 diabetes which tends to involve overweight adults and may have more issues with a respiratory illness. Someone who has well-controlled Type 1 diabetes, as a professional athlete would almost have to, is not at materially greater risk thank anyone else.
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Post by bison137 on Jun 25, 2020 9:32:59 GMT -5
How about today having the most Virus cases of any day in the US for starters, Spiro ? England and most of Western Europe are well ahead of us in beating this virus. More . However it should be noted that the US is testing at least four times as many people per day as they were doing in early April.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jun 25, 2020 10:06:21 GMT -5
How about today having the most Virus cases of any day in the US for starters, Spiro ? England and most of Western Europe are well ahead of us in beating this virus. More . However it should be noted that the US is testing at least four times as many people per day as they were doing in early April. I believe it also is important to understand who is testing positive -- is it the elderly and sick or the younger and healthier?
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jun 25, 2020 10:06:45 GMT -5
but what happens to the MLB guys that have diabetes? or the NHL player like Max Domi? etc... Probably the same thing as happens to Bundesliga guys who have diabetes. Have any US athletes (college or pro) died of Covid-19? At least one, a 21 year old college baseball player from Colorado. And there was a recent graduate of Colby or Bates, who was a Div III All American lacrosse player, that wound up on a ventilator at UPenn hospital for three weeks. IIRC, he lived in New Jersey. No co-morbidities. These are exceptions, not the rule.
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