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Post by timholycross on Jun 26, 2020 8:54:42 GMT -5
Looking at his LinkedIn profile, I think he's getting his sheepskin from HC.
That would still let him play somewhere as a grad transfer, I do believe, if he so desired (and having some school pick up the tab for at least one year of grad school is not a bad thing).
I think that's a solid decision in these troubled times.
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Post by Tom on Jun 26, 2020 9:06:43 GMT -5
Made me look.
Might also just be a case of linkedin not being up to date. I don't think someone in his position would double update - once to say he's not going to school anywhere and then a second time to say where he is going to school once he figures it out. No need to add a line to something like a resume until you have a line to add
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Post by rgs318 on Jun 26, 2020 9:09:14 GMT -5
I wish him well was he tries to make the best of what appears (from what I have read here) to have been a poor choice.
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Post by WorcesterGray on Jun 26, 2020 9:13:13 GMT -5
Kyle Copeland still identifies himself as "HC '21" on his Twitter page. Don't think we can/should read much into this.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jun 26, 2020 9:32:06 GMT -5
I wish him well was he tries to make the best of what appears (from what I have read) to have been a poor choice. Could you share what you have read? There could be a multitude of reasons he decided to leave the program.
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Post by rgs318 on Jun 26, 2020 9:34:38 GMT -5
Of course there could. Your point?
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Post by Tom on Jun 26, 2020 9:40:14 GMT -5
I wish him well was he tries to make the best of what appears (from what I have read) to have been a poor choice. Could you share what you have read? There could be a multitude of reasons he decided to leave the program. That Holy Cross is the finest school in the land and any decision by any student to leave prior to graduation is a poor choice There could also be less objective inputs
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Post by purplehaze on Jun 26, 2020 9:40:50 GMT -5
Am I correct in assuming that Copeland and Niego (if he returns only as a student) lose their full scholarships ? Isn't that the appropriate response to them leaving the bball program ?
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Post by DiMarz on Jun 26, 2020 10:01:39 GMT -5
Am I correct in assuming that Copeland and Niego (if he returns only as a student) lose their full scholarships ? Isn't that the appropriate response to them leaving the bball program ? I believe scholarships are renewed yearly, not a 4 year package...
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Post by purplehaze on Jun 26, 2020 10:05:24 GMT -5
I don't think that is the case at HC - I know from good sources that (in order to be competitive) our football program offers schollies for the four years, and therefore does not cut players who don't work out - I would think the same policy applies to basketball
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Post by HC92 on Jun 26, 2020 10:07:10 GMT -5
If Niego did return and graduate, is it possible he could then get two years of play as a grad transfer?
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jun 26, 2020 10:37:27 GMT -5
Of course there could. Your point? Wasn't sure if there was an article floating around out there about his decision to leave the program since you mentioned reading something about it.
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Post by Tom on Jun 26, 2020 10:40:10 GMT -5
If Niego did return and graduate, is it possible he could then get two years of play as a grad transfer? I would assume so It is also possible that with only 12 scholarships next year, he could play for HC next year and save the tuition money at HC and only play one year of grad ball. Possible, but in my opinion, unlikely that he will return Even if HC promises four years of tuition, that does assume you don't quit the team. Prior to Copeland. the last scholarship player I remember quitting and staying in school was Zach Paterick. Someone else had his scholarship the next season
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Post by CHC8485 on Jun 26, 2020 11:15:15 GMT -5
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Post by bison137 on Jun 26, 2020 11:34:42 GMT -5
I don't think that is the case at HC - I know from good sources that (in order to be competitive) our football program offers schollies for the four years, and therefore does not cut players who don't work out - I would think the same policy applies to basketball But doesn't that policy only apply to players who don't perform well on the field but continue to stay on the team?
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Post by bison137 on Jun 26, 2020 11:36:17 GMT -5
Not sure that means too much. Goodman makes a lot of mistakes when it comes to who is a grad transfer. For example, he mistakenly called Lehigh's Karnik a grad transfer.
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Post by purplehaze on Jun 26, 2020 12:09:07 GMT -5
"But doesn't that policy only apply to players who don't perform well on the field but continue to stay on the team?
yes, of course - if you stay on the team you retain your schollie
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Post by CHC8485 on Jun 26, 2020 12:10:11 GMT -5
Not sure that means too much. Goodman makes a lot of mistakes when it comes to who is a grad transfer. For example, he mistakenly called Lehigh's Karnik a grad transfer. Thus the FWIW (For What It's Worth) that preceded my post.
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 26, 2020 23:44:57 GMT -5
He could probably transfer to a D-2 school with scholarships and a graduate school, (like Assumption) but graduating from HC and then playing one more year in graduate school is an attractive route also. Leaving a good school like HC after completing three years and not getting your degree is kind of like serving in the military for fifteen years and leaving without a pension.
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Post by Tom on Jun 27, 2020 7:56:11 GMT -5
I'm still not reading much into the absence of a line on his linkedin profile saying "left Holy Cross, and undetermined about what I'm doing in Fall":
But it's summer and there's not much else to talk about. . .
IF he came back to HC, I think it would almost have to be a case of asking Coach Nelson for his spot back. The clock is ticking. Under non-COVID years the students would report back in under two months. At what point is it too late to get a need based package? Assuming HC gets to the waiting list this year, those kids are not guaranteed 100 percent need - and those kids have already committed to HC. Deadlines are approaching when he might not get any need based aid and have to pay full freight. If he comes back as a non-athlete, he might not get the Joey Reilly treatment and the luxury of deciding in mid-August.
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Post by purplehaze on Sept 1, 2020 11:13:49 GMT -5
It's Sep 1 and not a peep about Niego - is he in school 'anywhere' ? Please don't tell me he and Kyle are enrolled at HC and keeping their scholarships as they sit out the season
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Post by Tom on Sept 1, 2020 13:17:49 GMT -5
As was said last year, Kyle was planning to stay at school and to the best of my knowledge started taking classes today. His scholarship status might have something to do with his health. If he wasn't healthy enough to play the last two years, it'a not a huge stretch to think his health could have something to do with his departure from the team
I do not know where Connor wound up, however I do not see his name on a list of current HC students.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Sept 1, 2020 15:07:55 GMT -5
where do you access such a list?
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Post by hchoops on Sept 1, 2020 15:12:34 GMT -5
As was said last year, Kyle was planning to stay at school and to the best of my knowledge started taking classes today. His scholarship status might have something to do with his health. If he wasn't healthy enough to play the last two years, it'a not a huge stretch to think his health could have something to do with his departure from the team I do not know where Connor wound up, however I do not see his name on a list of current HC students. Does this presume that you did see Kyle’s name on that list ?
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Sept 1, 2020 15:29:40 GMT -5
If Niego did return and graduate, is it possible he could then get two years of play as a grad transfer? I would assume so It is also possible that with only 12 scholarships next year, he could play for HC next year and save the tuition money at HC and only play one year of grad ball. Possible, but in my opinion, unlikely that he will return Even if HC promises four years of tuition, that does assume you don't quit the team. Prior to Copeland. the last scholarship player I remember quitting and staying in school was Zach Paterick. Someone else had his scholarship the next seasonCorrect. If you voluntarily quit the team, you are no longer under an athletic scholarship. Players that "don't work out" whether it be a talent issue or injury issue, but who do not voluntarily forfeit their roster spot, tend to turn into glorified practice players / managers.
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