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Post by longsuffering on Jul 7, 2020 15:15:17 GMT -5
Thanks for the homework assignment.
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Post by rickii on Jul 8, 2020 6:05:46 GMT -5
Wrong thread
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Post by dadominate on Jul 8, 2020 11:33:03 GMT -5
black lives only seem to matter in the eyes of black lives matter marxists when those lives are taken by a white person. just ask david dorn and his family or, on a grander scale, the over 90% of blacks murdered by other blacks every year.
why does blm not acknowledge those black lives? it's incredibly sad how the black community is poisoned by this horribly divisive and disempowering rhetoric.
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 8, 2020 12:04:45 GMT -5
black lives only seem to matter in the eyes of black lives matter marxists when those lives are taken by a white person. just ask david dorn and his family or, on a grander scale, the over 90% of blacks murdered by other blacks every year. why does blm not acknowledge those black lives? it's incredibly sad how the black community is poisoned by this horribly divisive and disempowering rhetoric. The standard answer is that the high incidence of Black on Black crime is one of many terrible results of 400 years of systemic racism. So in that sense, every BLM lawn sign and every masked protester is acknowledging those lives.
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Post by alum on Jul 8, 2020 14:26:02 GMT -5
black lives only seem to matter in the eyes of black lives matter marxists when those lives are taken by a white person. just ask david dorn and his family or, on a grander scale, the over 90% of blacks murdered by other blacks every year. why does blm not acknowledge those black lives? it's incredibly sad how the black community is poisoned by this horribly divisive and disempowering rhetoric. When foreign terrorists kill Americans, do you say we shouldn't talk about it because a whole lot more Americans kill other Americans than are killed by foreign terrorists? Of course you don't because that would make no sense but you have no problem making this argument here. BLM isn't asking you to ignore crimes black commit against other blacks. I am sure they would point out that most violent crime is intraracial as opposed to interracial. I am sure they also point out that more violent crime is committed by people whose household income is below the poverty level and that blacks are more likely to be poor and live in poor neighborhoods because of centuries of legalized racism and decades of implicit bias. No one is excusing any type of crime, but don't change the subject away from systemic racism and police brutality. Deal with both problems. Mentioning David Dorn--that's sort of like saying, "I have a black friend" or "I have a gay friend."
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jul 8, 2020 16:09:42 GMT -5
How many incidents are there each year of police brutality— 1,000 or 10,000 or 100,000 or even one million? Of course we all agree that even one case is too many, but how big a problem is it?
Let’s compare to the field of medical care. How many life-ending/life-diminishing mistakes do doctors make each year in the United States: 1,000 or 10,000 or 100,000? Of course we all agree that one case is too many, but how big a problem is it? Do we have a problem of systemic incompetence in medical care?
We shouldn’t accept that there is a “systemic “ problem with the police without an understanding of the facts beyond the high profile cases we see on TV
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jul 8, 2020 16:48:11 GMT -5
I want to say that in 2019 there were nine instances of police killing a black person. In two of those instances, the black person was unarmed.
There were 19 white people killed by police in 2019.
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Post by rgs318 on Jul 8, 2020 16:50:50 GMT -5
I want to say that in 2019 there were nine instances of police killing a black person. In two of those instances, the black person was unarmed. There were 19 people killed by police in 2019. Interesting point on the race of the decased. How many of the police who were held responsible for a death were African-American?
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Post by newfieguy74 on Jul 8, 2020 17:12:26 GMT -5
How many incidents are there each year of police brutality— 1,000 or 10,000 or 100,000 or even one million? Of course we all agree that even one case is too many, but how big a problem is it? Let’s compare to the field of medical care. How many life-ending/life-diminishing mistakes do doctors make each year in the United States: 1,000 or 10,000 or 100,000? Of course we all agree that one case is too many, but how big a problem is it? Do we have a problem of systemic incompetence in medical care? We shouldn’t accept that there is a “systemic “ problem with the police without an understanding of the facts beyond the high profile cases we see on TV I unequivocally accept there is a systemic problem with the police when every black person I've ever talked to, every black person I've watched on TV, and every black person I've read say they have had multiple bad experiences with the police, are afraid of the police, and when every black family in America feels the need to have "the talk" with their children about the police.This doesn't mean there aren't good individual police officers, but it means there's a deep systemic problem.
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Post by rgs318 on Jul 8, 2020 17:57:14 GMT -5
Interesting column. Thanks for the tip.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jul 8, 2020 18:04:37 GMT -5
67, I’m not sure what white men committing suicide has to do with violent crimes committed in black communities. Is the author looking to make the claim that guns are more dangerous in white communities rather than black ones? I’m also not in agreement with the premise that a gun was the reason for a death when one takes their own life. But that’s for another conversation.
I saw the mayor of Atlanta, Keisha Bottoms, pleading with her city to stop killing each other. Maybe we need more of this in these communities?
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Post by rgs318 on Jul 8, 2020 18:10:30 GMT -5
I read the point that when a White man kills himself with a gun it is called a suicide. When a Black man does the same it is treated differently. One person's mental illness can be seen in another case as a crime. The author correctly points out that both issues are far too complicated to be assigned a single cause. Sadly, she almost does just that when writing about the role of the NRA. And, yes, we do need more people lie Keiosha Bottoms to begin to deal with this issue.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Jul 8, 2020 18:15:28 GMT -5
Weekend #1 of a de-funded NYPD was indeed a tragic one, particularly for communities of color. 9 killed in 15 hours.
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