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Post by hc2020 on Jul 8, 2020 15:13:17 GMT -5
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Post by timholycross on Jul 8, 2020 15:34:48 GMT -5
So what does that mean, no spring ball either?
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Post by hc2020 on Jul 8, 2020 15:39:39 GMT -5
That’s my understanding. No commitment for spring ball at this time.
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Post by hc87 on Jul 8, 2020 15:43:41 GMT -5
We'll see but people misuse cancelled for postponed as much as your/you're...
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Post by bfoley82 on Jul 8, 2020 15:43:43 GMT -5
Wait for the OFFICIAL statement before judging on the spring ball stuff.
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Post by hcpride on Jul 8, 2020 15:45:15 GMT -5
When the top Ivy schools (HYP) announce they are keeping about half their kids away from campus this year it would seem impossible to have teams this year.
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Post by HC92 on Jul 8, 2020 15:59:15 GMT -5
Wonder if this decision will eat away at some of the recruiting advantage HYP enjoy over the PL schools assuming the PL has a football season.
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Post by rgs318 on Jul 8, 2020 16:07:13 GMT -5
Hopefully.
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Post by hc2020 on Jul 8, 2020 16:18:43 GMT -5
I’m wondering how Georgetown’s decision to limit on campus students will impact the PL. Will they opt out of fall athletics? If so, will the rest of the PL move to fill those games with substitutes? Is their decision somehow based upon something we don’t know about the PL’s ultimate decision on fall sports? Lots of unanswered questions.
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Post by unhfan on Jul 8, 2020 16:20:28 GMT -5
The first domino to fall. I believe the fcs will follow the lead of the ancient 8. FBS I’m sure will try to play but don’t think they will.
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Post by purplehaze on Jul 8, 2020 16:32:52 GMT -5
GU's decision on fall sports would be particularly relevant to their men's soccer team - who are the defending D.1 national champs - imagine not being able to defend your title the Big East has a different mindset than the PL when it comes to serious D.1 athletics - GU might be the outlier in that league also if other (less wealthy) schools can't afford to simply say we're only bringing back a fraction of our student body to campus
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Post by cruskater31 on Jul 8, 2020 16:43:31 GMT -5
Ultimately economics will dictate what happens in the FBS. I imagine the big boys in the FCS will play or convince the NCAA to do so. Will the NCAA playoffs really miss the ancient 8 (we know that answer already) and the PL? We are probably hurt most if the season is postponed or canceled as we are defending Champs and should be favorites. Let em play! (Even if I can only watch them on crappy Stadium feeds)
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Post by timholycross on Jul 8, 2020 16:46:23 GMT -5
Ultimately economics will dictate what happens in the FBS. I imagine the big boys in the FCS will play or convince the NCAA to do so. Will the NCAA playoffs really miss the ancient 8 (we know that answer already) and the PL? We are probably hurt most if the season is postponed or canceled as we are defending Champs and should be favorites. Let em play! (Even if I can only watch them on crappy Stadium feeds) The one or two games that we'd lose could be replaced as there are going to be other schools in the same boat.
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Post by hcpride on Jul 8, 2020 17:02:42 GMT -5
GU's decision on fall sports would be particularly relevant to their men's soccer team - who are the defending D.1 national champs - imagine not being able to defend your title the Big East has a different mindset than the PL when it comes to serious D.1 athletics - GU might be the outlier in that league also if other (less wealthy) schools can't afford to simply say we're only bringing back a fraction of our student body to campus No doubt Georgetown’s gesture (like the HYP one) in welcoming back just a fraction of the kids is an expensive one. Princeton’s giving back 10% of tuition cost (along with giving up all that room/board $$$). I think many schools, like HC for example, don’t see any medical/scientific need for that sort of gesture...and have no issues with students living in traditional doubles.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jul 8, 2020 17:04:33 GMT -5
GU's decision on fall sports would be particularly relevant to their men's soccer team - who are the defending D.1 national champs - imagine not being able to defend your title the Big East has a different mindset than the PL when it comes to serious D.1 athletics - GU might be the outlier in that league also if other (less wealthy) schools can't afford to simply say we're only bringing back a fraction of our student body to campus Georgetown has dug itself a hole with respect to hoops. Can't bring hoops players back for the fall term, simply so they can practice. Can't bring only the men's hoops players back early for practice without bringing back the ladies, and probably without bringing back other spring sports early as well. There are equity and fairness issues. GU may have been influenced by Ewing being hospitalized for five days with COVID, and as of June 30, John Thompson was still hospitalized. Don't know whether that is JT father or son. Thompson is probably still hospitalized as there is no word of him being released. Ewing inadvertently let the cat out of the bag in an interview.
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Post by bfoley82 on Jul 8, 2020 17:15:16 GMT -5
Here is the official statement
PRINCETON, N.J. -- Amidst continuing health and safety concerns due to the global COVID-19 pandemic, the Ivy League Council of Presidents has set in place plans for intercollegiate athletics activity in the upcoming fall semester. With the safety and well-being of students as their highest priority, Ivy League institutions are implementing campus-wide policies including restrictions on student and staff travel, requirements for social distancing, limits on group gatherings, and regulations for visitors to campus. As athletics is expected to operate consistent with campus policies, it will not be possible for Ivy League teams to participate in intercollegiate athletics competition prior to the end of the fall semester. Practice and other athletic training opportunities for enrolled student-athletes will be permitted provided they are structured in accordance with each institution’s procedures and applicable state regulations. The Ivy League will also issue guidelines on a phased approach to conditioning and practice activities to allow for interaction among student-athletes and coaches that will begin with limited individual and small group workouts and build to small group practice sessions, if public health conditions permit. Fall sport student-athletes will not use a season of Ivy League or NCAA eligibility in the fall, whether or not they enroll. Students who wish to pursue competition during a fifth-year will need to work with their institutions in accordance with campus policy to determine their options beyond their current anticipated graduation date. Local campus policies for the student body regarding return to campus and in-person learning will apply to student-athletes. A decision on the remaining winter and spring sports competition calendar, and on whether fall sport competition would be feasible in the spring, will be determined at a later date. The Ivy League Council of Presidents offered the following joint statement: “As a leadership group, we have a responsibility to make decisions that are in the best interest of the students who attend our institutions, as well as the faculty and staff who work at our schools. These decisions are extremely difficult, particularly when they impact meaningful student-athlete experiences that so many value and cherish. With the information available to us today regarding the continued spread of the virus, we simply do not believe we can create and maintain an environment for intercollegiate athletic competition that meets our requirements for safety and acceptable levels of risk, consistent with the policies that each of our schools is adopting as part of its reopening plans this fall.
We are entrusted to create and maintain an educational environment that is guided by health and safety considerations. There can be no greater responsibility — and that is the basis for this difficult decision.” Ivy League Council of Presidents Christina Paxson, Brown University Lee Bollinger, Columbia University Martha Pollack, Cornell University Philip Hanlon, Dartmouth College Lawrence Bacow, Harvard University Amy Gutmann, University of Pennsylvania Christopher Eisgruber, Princeton University Peter Salovey, Yale University
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Post by hc2020 on Jul 8, 2020 17:29:34 GMT -5
The Ivy League Council of Presidents don’t know the difference between a football and a bowling ball. This is what happens when you have people who know nothing about sports making decisions about sports. While some will tout this decision as groundbreaking or noble (including the mass media and the back-slapping Ivy League administrators), the reality is that this decision was the easy out and required no creative thought or solution to the problem. If students are permitted to be on campus at these schools, then the problem is not one that required a complete cancellation of the fall sports season. The hypocrisy is palpable.
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Post by hcpride on Jul 8, 2020 17:37:11 GMT -5
/\ Believe me, this is definitely burnishing some woke creds and some of these folks feel very self-satisfied about that.
Why not shut down school (and revenue) for the whole year? After all, this is “Amidst continuing health and safety concerns due to the global COVID-19 pandemic”.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jul 8, 2020 17:42:08 GMT -5
Those members of the elite academia in the Ivy League will no doubt pat themselves on the back and congratulate one another on such prudent decisions at the next cocktail reception / gala.
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Post by gks on Jul 8, 2020 18:05:11 GMT -5
If you're going to cancel the fall season why are you allowing winter teams to practice? That makes no sense to me.
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Post by hc2020 on Jul 8, 2020 18:08:31 GMT -5
If you're going to cancel the fall season why are you allowing winter teams to practice? That makes no sense to me. Nor does this statement: “Practice and other athletic training opportunities for enrolled student-athletes will be permitted provided they are structured in accordance with each institution’s procedures and applicable state regulations.”
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Post by hchoops on Jul 8, 2020 18:46:34 GMT -5
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jul 8, 2020 19:12:44 GMT -5
The Ivy League Council of Presidents don’t know the difference between a football and a bowling ball. This is what happens when you have people who know nothing about sports making decisions about sports. While some will tout this decision as groundbreaking or noble (including the mass media and the back-slapping Ivy League administrators), the reality is that this decision was the easy out and required no creative thought or solution to the problem. If students are permitted to be on campus at these schools, then the problem is not one that required a complete cancellation of the fall sports season. The hypocrisy is palpable. How would Harvard compete with fall sports with only freshmen on campus, or Dartmouth with only two class years? How would Harvard compete in spring sports with only seniors on campus? The only two IL schools with all four class years on campus this year are Cornell and UPenn?
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Post by bfoley82 on Jul 8, 2020 20:24:50 GMT -5
If you're going to cancel the fall season why are you allowing winter teams to practice? That makes no sense to me. Isn't it the theory that you are introducing an outside group (the other team) into your bubble at the college by playing other schools? If you just stay in practice, they would have the same odds of getting it with their own group and the rest of the school...
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Post by inhocsigno on Jul 8, 2020 23:16:28 GMT -5
Ivy League = Pussies.
We need to play football in the fall, even without fans.
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