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Post by Crucis#1 on Jul 9, 2020 11:51:40 GMT -5
Does anyone doubt that children can be asymptomatic of the virus, and be super-spreaders if they are infected?
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jul 9, 2020 12:10:13 GMT -5
Does anyone doubt that children can be asymptomatic of the virus, and be super-spreaders if they are infected? That's the question--apparently there are conflicting studies
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Post by Tom on Jul 9, 2020 12:21:17 GMT -5
That works great in MA where things are pretty tame right now. Last night they were showing massive lines waiting for tests in Phoenix and reported that results can take up to 10 days. I'm as much of a sports fan as the next guy, but is it reasonable that athletes should have better access to multiple tests in hot spots than the average guy just trying to get one No science, just an observation, but I would expect young children to be worse spreaders because they haven't learned some responsibility yet. Extreme example, but my 6 month old nephew blatantly coughed right in my face the other day with no effort to cover his mouth. We all can expect a 7 year old to deal with this better than a baby, but little kids in aren't going to do all the things we're being told to do. In the elementary schools, they'll need to do daily bus sweeps to collect all the lost masks. But let's say your six month year old nephew was at daycare all day, contracted the virus, and then coughed in your face. Now you would have an issue! No. I can't see myself ever getting too wound up about a baby not covering his mouth when coughing. My fault for picking up a baby. That being said, I was pointing out that it seems counterintuitive to think that kids being kids are less likely to spread germs than adults who are more capable of practicing good protective measures. The intervening posters seem to be on a similar page.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jul 9, 2020 12:38:20 GMT -5
Does anyone doubt that children can be asymptomatic of the virus, and be super-spreaders if they are infected? Apparently some people believe that. Here is a link to a site called "vox" that discusses the issue and cites evidence from Switzerland and Australia among other places. Perhaps this is like so many medical or health studies where one scientific study proves one thing and another study proves exactly the opposite. I don't know whether Vox has a good or bad track record for veracity. www.vox.com/2020/5/2/21241636/coronavirus-children-kids-spread-transmit-switzerlandThe views of Swiss officials didn’t come out of nowhere. They come amid a growing number of released reports from public health and infectious disease experts suggesting children spread the virus far less than adults. They form part of the justification for why Denmark reopened its schools earlier this month and why Spain this week allowed children 13 years old or younger to play outside. But the science is far from settled. The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says kids “can still pass this virus onto others who may be at higher risk, including older adults and people who have serious underlying medical conditions.” And other studies show children continue to display similar transmission abilities as adults, leading experts to caution against trusting kids not to spread the disease.
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 9, 2020 13:13:21 GMT -5
Shaugnessy: .500 at best Fauci: Undefeated, in my humble opinion
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Post by bfoley82 on Jul 9, 2020 13:37:50 GMT -5
But let's say your six month year old nephew was at daycare all day, contracted the virus, and then coughed in your face. Now you would have an issue! No. I can't see myself ever getting too wound up about a baby not covering his mouth when coughing. My fault for picking up a baby. That being said, I was pointing out that it seems counterintuitive to think that kids being kids are less likely to spread germs than adults who are more capable of practicing good protective measures. The intervening posters seem to be on a similar page. I wasn't blaming you...I just was stating that was a quick way of the virus spreading from a daycare to you to your employer.
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 9, 2020 13:38:56 GMT -5
Couple comments.... You can’t trust the data #’s from ANY source....most reports come with a spin wash interpretation. I’m going to assume that most here know that the specific data on deaths and death-rate percentages have been suspect for several weeks. ‘Cause of Death’ on death certificates have - in too many areas - been skewed in favor of expediency at the expense of normal probing as to preconditions severity. This is an area that hasn't received that much attention but is interesting and open to interpretation. Yesterday I watched a CNN snippet online with a Doctor from Arizona who became emotional under the strain of the outbreak at his hospital. Paraphrasing he said "These aren't 80 year-olds who were on death's doorstep waiting to die." I took that to mean his medical opinion and personal anguish is that while many elderly have co-morbidities, modern medicine is able to keep them independent and functioning for quite a while absent a controllable virus like Covid-19. The issue of nursing home patients in the northeast who were mowed down by the virus running unchecked through their facility is another tragedy altogether.
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Post by bfoley82 on Jul 9, 2020 13:39:26 GMT -5
ACC has said no Olympic Sports before 9/1
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Post by unhfan on Jul 10, 2020 7:34:04 GMT -5
Do you support wearing masks and social distancing? I’m just wondering how much of this do you think is all overblown fake news and we should just go back to the way things were pre pandemic. Do you believe what the esteemed Dr. Fauci says or is he just making things up? Are you suggesting Dr. Fauci has said that college age student athletes (asymptomatic and otherwise) who test positive are going to have bad outcomes? (Other than statistical outliers) Do you understand that the reason why athletic teams test and re-test is because they anticipate there may be a positive and want to detect it early and deal with it properly? I never suggested such a thing. I was just wondering how much of a conspiracy theory you believe this made up pandemic is that is all and wondered if you believe the esteemed Dr. Fauci or is just promoting fake news?
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Post by hcpride on Jul 10, 2020 8:14:52 GMT -5
Are you suggesting Dr. Fauci has said that college age student athletes (asymptomatic and otherwise) who test positive are going to have bad outcomes? (Other than statistical outliers) Do you understand that the reason why athletic teams test and re-test is because they anticipate there may be a positive and want to detect it early and deal with it properly? I never suggested such a thing. I was just wondering how much of a conspiracy theory you believe this made up pandemic is that is all and wondered if you believe the esteemed Dr. Fauci or is just promoting fake news? If Dr. Fauci has suggested that college athletes are not going not have bad outcomes should they catch Covid-19, the data and the science certainly support him. As far as trolling for conspiracy theories you may have to go elsewhere. (FWIW, schools such as Holy Cross and others who are returning essentially all students to campus and schools supporting the return of fall sports are not necessarily embracing conspiracy theories or killing elderly people...or both.)
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Post by cruskater31 on Jul 10, 2020 11:15:55 GMT -5
Pivoting from medical topics a bit back to the ancient 8, has anyone expressed interest in transferring from an Ivy? I wonder if the NCAA would relax transfer rules.
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Post by unhfan on Jul 10, 2020 12:06:30 GMT -5
I never suggested such a thing. I was just wondering how much of a conspiracy theory you believe this made up pandemic is that is all and wondered if you believe the esteemed Dr. Fauci or is just promoting fake news? If Dr. Fauci has suggested that college athletes are not going not have bad outcomes should they catch Covid-19, the data and the science certainly support him. As far as trolling for conspiracy theories you may have to go elsewhere. (FWIW, schools such as Holy Cross and others who are returning essentially all students to campus and schools supporting the return of fall sports are not necessarily embracing conspiracy theories or killing elderly people...or both.) 😂. I’m not trolling my friend just asking you some simple straightforward questions which it appears you don’t want to answer 🤔.
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Post by hc87 on Jul 10, 2020 14:45:52 GMT -5
Believe me I want to see us play (while being somewhat wary of it, as the situation keeps evolving) but I'm finding it hard to see the PL playing when like-minded schools etc in the Ivy, Centennial and NESCAC aren't this Fall.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jul 10, 2020 14:48:59 GMT -5
Yes, don't see any way the PL plays football, or any other sports for that matter, this fall.
I was speaking with an assistant coach in the PL earlier today and he is preparing for no football.
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Post by rgs318 on Jul 10, 2020 15:14:10 GMT -5
That is sad to hear. I believe that following football could help a lot of people by giving them a distraction from Covid-19 and by seeing thosemwho do contract it be able to overcome it.
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Post by hcpride on Jul 10, 2020 15:15:21 GMT -5
Believe me I want to see us play (while being somewhat wary of it, as the situation keeps evolving) but I'm finding it hard to see the PL playing when like-minded schools etc in the Ivy, Centennial and NESCAC aren't this Fall. Gotta agree. There are reason$ we can’t go all in like HYP in terms of emptying out half or more of the campus in the name of COVID-19 but we can match the ‘no fall sports’ idea of Ivies, NESCAC, etc. (Putting aside data and science for the moment)
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Post by hchoops on Jul 11, 2020 7:05:52 GMT -5
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Post by unhfan on Jul 11, 2020 8:06:38 GMT -5
MAC and ACC to go to conference schedules only.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Jul 11, 2020 8:28:54 GMT -5
MAC and ACC to go to conference schedules only. My initial prediction a few months bsck was that of a conference only-season starting October 1st. My idea was that ND could just join the ACC for one season since they already have the partnership. Maybe if we play, Army could join the PL for a season:) More likely, all the "not Notre Dame" independents could come to a scheduling agreement.
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Post by cmo on Jul 11, 2020 8:55:01 GMT -5
Does conference only include a playoff?
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Post by hchoops on Jul 11, 2020 9:07:06 GMT -5
Who knows ? I would bet no too much far travel
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Post by unhfan on Jul 11, 2020 9:13:13 GMT -5
Does conference only include a playoff? Great question I haven't seen that mentioned in any of the press releases or tweets. I know the CAA had a meeting Thursday with all the AD's and Presidents to discuss football. According to UNH's AD everything is on the table heading into that meeting this week including a pod system where UNH would play Maine, URI, and Albany twice for their football schedule this year.
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Post by princetoncrusader on Jul 11, 2020 13:22:40 GMT -5
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Post by unhfan on Jul 11, 2020 13:25:47 GMT -5
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jul 11, 2020 14:00:04 GMT -5
Is it necessary to post the same link three times in two different threads?
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