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Post by bfoley82 on Sept 8, 2020 23:07:09 GMT -5
/\ This is actually kind of funny because HC has absolutely no idea how many of its total students have/had Covid. Active and otherwise. Not a surprise because many of the students themselves don't even know if they have/had it. Beyond that, even if a kid (non-Worcester based) was tested and tested positive, why would he/she bother telling HC? Would the faraway kid tell HC about a positive flu test? Strep test? I would not assume (if anyone is) that a higher percentage of students who have access to campus have/had Covid than the far more numerous students who do not. Cal University (PA) football player died from COVID on Tuesday. pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2020/09/08/california-university-of-pennsylvania-jamain-stephens-dies/
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Post by hcpride on Sept 9, 2020 5:00:39 GMT -5
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Post by efg72 on Sept 9, 2020 6:40:58 GMT -5
From USA Today: "The company put a hold on its COVID-19 clinical trials worldwide, while it investigated an adverse reaction in a trial participant in the United Kingdom. It’s not clear how long the stoppage will last. Sometimes reactions happen during a trial that are purely coincidental, but if they are serious enough, research is put on hold until they can be fully investigated. "We are working to expedite the review of the single event to minimize any potential impact on the trial timeline," AstraZeneca said in a statement released late Tuesday. The company is testing a vaccine originally developed at Oxford University. "This is a routine action which has to happen whenever there is a potentially unexplained illness in one of the trials, while it is investigated, ensuring we maintain the integrity of the trials."" Heard the cause of the hold is Transverse myelitis - this “pause” may be quite a while.
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Post by longsuffering on Sept 9, 2020 7:43:44 GMT -5
From USA Today: "The company put a hold on its COVID-19 clinical trials worldwide, while it investigated an adverse reaction in a trial participant in the United Kingdom. It’s not clear how long the stoppage will last. Sometimes reactions happen during a trial that are purely coincidental, but if they are serious enough, research is put on hold until they can be fully investigated. "We are working to expedite the review of the single event to minimize any potential impact on the trial timeline," AstraZeneca said in a statement released late Tuesday. The company is testing a vaccine originally developed at Oxford University. "This is a routine action which has to happen whenever there is a potentially unexplained illness in one of the trials, while it is investigated, ensuring we maintain the integrity of the trials."" Heard the cause of the hold is Transverse myelitis - this “pause” may be quite a while. A new medical term learned before my coffee stopped dripping. Thanks. I read the symptoms of Transverse myelitis and wouldn't want to have this damage my spine. Inflammation is nasty. This Covid has more tentacles than an Octopus.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Sept 9, 2020 9:33:41 GMT -5
From USA Today: "The company put a hold on its COVID-19 clinical trials worldwide, while it investigated an adverse reaction in a trial participant in the United Kingdom. It’s not clear how long the stoppage will last. Sometimes reactions happen during a trial that are purely coincidental, but if they are serious enough, research is put on hold until they can be fully investigated. "We are working to expedite the review of the single event to minimize any potential impact on the trial timeline," AstraZeneca said in a statement released late Tuesday. The company is testing a vaccine originally developed at Oxford University. "This is a routine action which has to happen whenever there is a potentially unexplained illness in one of the trials, while it is investigated, ensuring we maintain the integrity of the trials."" Heard the cause of the hold is Transverse myelitis - this “pause” may be quite a while. Adenoviruses can cause Transverse myelitis; AstraZeeneca is using an adenovirus as its vaccine 'platform'. Moderna and Pfizer are using messenger RNA.
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Post by efg72 on Sept 9, 2020 9:45:18 GMT -5
From Leerink this morning
One of our 25 reasons why we can’t count on COVID vaccines for herd immunity until 2023 (see our note HERE) was the risk of unexpected rare adverse event in large clinical trials, and the difficulty in establishing whether those events are, or are not, vaccine associated. The adverse event disclosed last night by AZN (OP) is the worst kind for vaccine developers – rare, severe, complex in presentation, difficult to diagnose, and plausibly associated with the vaccine technology. Resolving this question, and proving the negative, could take months for this program, and has implications for the development strategy (but not the development risk) for all the other COVID vaccines in pivotal trials.
We continue to expect an EUA approval (politically influenced) for one or more COVID vaccines, for high-risk populations, by the end of this year. We do not expect a general use approval for any COVID vaccine until mid-2021, and would not anticipate widespread use until late in 2021, at the earliest. If there are other serious events of this nature in the safety database for AZN’s AZD1222, then the program will be on long-term and possibly permanent hold. Other adenovirus COVID vaccine programs are likely to see some minor changes in their consent and patient disclosure, and possible short-term delays.
Other COVID vaccine programs deploying novel technology such as mRNA are likely to be subject to more careful scrutiny for safety risks (thus adhering more closely to good vaccine development practice). The best positioned vaccines are likely to be those deploying proven, validated technologies, particularly adjuvanted protein sub-unit vaccines (GSK-OP, SNY-MP, NVAX –not covered).
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Post by timholycross on Sept 9, 2020 12:44:08 GMT -5
In a case like this, if x number of people got the vaccine (or the placebo) and there is a second injection due, do those people get the second one?
Certainly the people who didn't get the first injection don't get either, I'm sure.
Moot point if the AZ vaccine was supposed to only be one injection.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Sept 9, 2020 14:59:04 GMT -5
In a case like this, if x number of people got the vaccine (or the placebo) and there is a second injection due, do those people get the second one? Certainly the people who didn't get the first injection don't get either, I'm sure. Moot point if the AZ vaccine was supposed to only be one injection. My understanding is that the trial pauses, i.e., no new enrollees and no second or booster shots. IIRC, AZ was adapting an adenovirtus that they had used to develop a vaccine against Ebola, but that vaccine was never deployed and may not have reached Phase 3. The adeonovirus used is one that infects chimpanzees.
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Post by hc2020 on Sept 14, 2020 15:43:25 GMT -5
I’m hearing that HC’s coordination of COVID testing has left a lot to be desired. Some students have submitted to tests only to be told that their test results cannot be found. Others have been advised that their results will be available within 24 hours, only to be told that results are not available for up to 5 days. Also hearing that those who want to access campus on a limited basis must submit to multiple tests each week, making it extremely difficult to schedule given the limited number of days and times that testing is actually offered on campus (HC will not allow testing to be conducted at any off-campus locations, even though the testing company HC has contracted with has multiple locations in the area).
If this is how COVID testing is being administered, I would not expect any improvement in campus access or the opening of school to on-campus learning next semester.
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Post by hc2020 on Sept 14, 2020 16:12:25 GMT -5
The fact that other colleges in Worcester have been able to coordinate on-campus access makes HC’s response to COVID all the more embarrassing. 🤦♂️
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Sept 14, 2020 18:15:29 GMT -5
/\ This is actually kind of funny because HC has absolutely no idea how many of its total students have/had Covid. Active and otherwise. Not a surprise because many of the students themselves don't even know if they have/had it. Beyond that, even if a kid (non-Worcester based) was tested and tested positive, why would he/she bother telling HC? Would the faraway kid tell HC about a positive flu test? Strep test? I would not assume (if anyone is) that a higher percentage of students who have access to campus have/had Covid than the far more numerous students who do not. Cal University (PA) football player died from COVID on Tuesday. pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2020/09/08/california-university-of-pennsylvania-jamain-stephens-dies/Some outlets no doubt wanted a salacious COVID headline to get clicks, but that is not the case. From the article you linked: The high school had said that he died of coronavirus complications, but later said they heard that information from his close friends and they do not have an official confirmation on his cause of death.
Stephens also had not played football at Cal U in a year. He was also 350+ pounds. As sad and tragic as it is, death may find someone who lives life at that weight.
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Post by hcpride on Sept 14, 2020 19:17:42 GMT -5
Some outlets no doubt wanted a salacious COVID headline to get clicks, but that is not the case. From the article you linked: The high school had said that he died of coronavirus complications, but later said they heard that information from his close friends and they do not have an official confirmation on his cause of death.
Stephens also had not played football at Cal U in a year. He was also 350+ pounds. As sad and tragic as it is, death may find someone who lives life at that weight. /\ Aside from the fact that he may not have died from Covid after all, it is interesting that many outlets ran this in an attempt to link Covid to a college athlete death (would have been the first BTW) ...not one outlet (while going with the Covid story) suggested he might have been better off if the team was still functioning and closely monitoring its athletes.
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Post by bfoley82 on Sept 14, 2020 21:43:49 GMT -5
Some outlets no doubt wanted a salacious COVID headline to get clicks, but that is not the case. From the article you linked: The high school had said that he died of coronavirus complications, but later said they heard that information from his close friends and they do not have an official confirmation on his cause of death.
Stephens also had not played football at Cal U in a year. He was also 350+ pounds. As sad and tragic as it is, death may find someone who lives life at that weight. Article was changed after I posted the link so....🤷🏻♂️
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Sept 14, 2020 22:07:21 GMT -5
Some outlets no doubt wanted a salacious COVID headline to get clicks, but that is not the case. From the article you linked: The high school had said that he died of coronavirus complications, but later said they heard that information from his close friends and they do not have an official confirmation on his cause of death.
Stephens also had not played football at Cal U in a year. He was also 350+ pounds. As sad and tragic as it is, death may find someone who lives life at that weight. Article was changed after I posted the link so....🤷🏻♂️ It’s okay, Foles. This is seemingly been the game plan by the media lately. Be the first to get a story out, whether it is correct or not, for the clicks. Even if it’s knowingly fabricated or incorrect, you can always have the “editor’s note” come in after everyone has already read it and the news broke with the “correction.”
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Post by HC92 on Sept 16, 2020 13:22:05 GMT -5
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Post by hc2020 on Sept 21, 2020 14:57:14 GMT -5
Holy Cross kicks off its offseason conditioning program tonight for those players who are locally in the area, obtained housing privileges or are living off-campus. Program consists of Monday field work from 6:00-8:00PM with position coaches followed by weight training/conditioning on Tuesday and Thursday afternoons.
Hopefully this goes well and the team doesn’t experience any COVID issues.
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Post by hc2020 on Sept 22, 2020 5:38:06 GMT -5
HC workouts last night with the spotlight on 2020 recruits Joe Rivers and Dante Bolden. Good to see the boys back at it
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Post by joshua1 on Sept 22, 2020 5:47:00 GMT -5
Do you think we will play football in the spring and will fans be able to be in the stands
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Post by gks on Sept 22, 2020 8:03:13 GMT -5
Do you think we will play football in the spring and will fans be able to be in the stands No. IMO just seems like the powers that be at HC want to take the easy road. Again...this is just my opinion.
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Post by rgs318 on Sept 22, 2020 8:16:20 GMT -5
I share that opinion as well. I would like to see it, but I don't think it will happen.
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Post by hc2020 on Sept 22, 2020 8:26:13 GMT -5
The optics surrounding HC being, to my knowledge, the only college in the Worcester area that does not have an open campus is already troubling. If they decide to extend this moratorium into the spring, which would likely include no spring athletics, I suspect the PR will not be very good. To this day, I don’t understand why freshmen and seniors were not permitted on campus this fall. It could have been done with proper planning and a real commitment to work through any potential problems.
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Post by gks on Sept 22, 2020 8:43:28 GMT -5
The optics surrounding HC being, to my knowledge, the only college in the Worcester area that does not have an open campus is already troubling. If they decide to extend this moratorium into the spring, which would likely include no spring athletics, I suspect the PR will not be very good. To this day, I don’t understand why freshmen and seniors were not permitted on campus this fall. It could have been done with proper planning and a real commitment to work through any potential problems. Clark University just announced yesterday with their latest round of testing zero positive cases. More than safe if students act responsibly. I agree....HC optics not good.
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Post by hcpride on Sept 22, 2020 11:12:31 GMT -5
/\ Our Catholic brethren at our applicant overlap schools (BC, Fordham, PC, ND) seem to have been able to keep their kids safe while opening. One might look back on this as their finest hour. (Of course college age kids -enrolled or not, on campus or not, HC or not - do catch covid. )
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Post by Crucis#1 on Sept 22, 2020 15:45:25 GMT -5
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Post by newfieguy74 on Sept 22, 2020 16:49:39 GMT -5
The optics surrounding HC being, to my knowledge, the only college in the Worcester area that does not have an open campus is already troubling. If they decide to extend this moratorium into the spring, which would likely include no spring athletics, I suspect the PR will not be very good. To this day, I don’t understand why freshmen and seniors were not permitted on campus this fall. It could have been done with proper planning and a real commitment to work through any potential problems. Clark University just announced yesterday with their latest round of testing zero positive cases. More than safe if students act responsibly. I agree....HC optics not good. I've decided to refrain from second-guessing HC's decision. For one thing it's still only September. Second, there were compelling reasons to go virtual. BTW, I'm also not second-guessing those schools that brought their students back.
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