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Post by Crucis#1 on Sept 24, 2020 19:11:53 GMT -5
The meals would be pre ordered, packaged, assembled and labeled in Kimball and moved to selected designated locations on campus and waiting for the students at the designated times around campus. There would be no standing around, as the app would notify that the meal is ready to go in a designated spot. Meal block times in 15 minute increments would be requested with a maximum number of customers designated per block by location. If the time is not available, the app would provide a time when you can expect it to be available for pickup without delay. A logistical planner could do a better job than I can in explaining, but to do so and implement will require several months or more to successfully prepare and test feasibility and usage. In IT, this would be considered as part of a Disaster Planning and Recovery exercise.
The ability to have a decentralized kitchen facilities if necessary in an emergency, should be addressed in the planning for the dorms that are not currently in a apartment configuration. As we all realize, the hill dorms need a major reconfiguration to meet 21st Century living accommodations, as well as possible new residences on City View Street in an expanded campus footprint. These should be in the plans for the next Capital Campaign. Much has been accomplished in the last 20 years, more to be accomplished in the continued reinvention to a 21st Century campus.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Sept 24, 2020 19:23:50 GMT -5
Well, my high school right now serves lunches by doing a phased 2 hour (4-period) lunch, spacing out the food line, no more salad bar or complicated deli orders so the line zips along (many wraps are premade, salads are premade, drinks are bottled, etc), masks (we’re in them 7 hours or so a day) of course while in line, and then the kids carry their trays/drinks to relatively spread out areas and eat (lobby, gym, cafeteria, library, etc) in a socially distanced fashion. Don’t see why a thoughtful college couldn’t do something along those lines for each meal... even a college with one Kimball and limited alternate food locations FWIW the 7-8th grade are full time in class, 9-12 are every other day. How many students in your high school? Are they all in one building for learning?
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Sept 24, 2020 19:29:57 GMT -5
Holy Cross announced its decision on August10. The dining restrictions were referenced in the webinar to parents and students. The dining restrictions were set by the Board of Health. These restrictions are still in effect, as the college said several days ago it was appealing to the Board of Health to ease the restriction. As I understand the restriction set by the Board of Health, no indoor dining anywhere on campus, other than in a student's room. No sitting in Kimball, no matter how many empty chairs and tables there are. The first three links below are the offerings at the three locations on campus that are open for food service: Main Kimball, Cool Beans, The Lobby. apps.holycross.edu/diningmenus/menu.html?menu=10&dtDate=9%2F24%2F2020&meal=Dwww.holycross.edu/campus-life/dining/locations-menus-hours/lobby-shopwww.holycross.edu/campus-life/dining/locations-menus-hours/cool-beanswww.holycross.edu/campus-life/dining/covid-19-informationAs can be seen from the main Kimball menu, meals presumably can be somewhat customized. There are no open buffets. My modeling scenario of 10 students per minute is high if all meals are not totally pre-packaged, and some meals are prepared to order by dining staff. This arrangement probably works currently, time-wise, as there may be no more than 300 students getting their meals from dining services. Clearly, from a time standpoint, this arrangement would not work with 2500 students on campus.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Sept 24, 2020 19:45:37 GMT -5
Well, my high school right now serves lunches by doing a phased 2 hour (4-period) lunch, spacing out the food line, no more salad bar or complicated deli orders so the line zips along (many wraps are premade, salads are premade, drinks are bottled, etc), masks (we’re in them 7 hours or so a day) of course while in line, and then the kids carry their trays/drinks to relatively spread out areas and eat (lobby, gym, cafeteria, library, etc) in a socially distanced fashion. Don’t see why a thoughtful college couldn’t do something along those lines for each meal... even a college with one Kimball and limited alternate food locations FWIW the 7-8th grade are full time in class, 9-12 are every other day. If Fr. B resigned last year, maybe HC would be in session. Universities and all schools in Germany are in session. The leader of Germany has a Ph.D in physical chemistry, her thesis title (translated) is 'Investigation of the mechanism of decay reactions with single bond breaking and calculation of their velocity constants on the basis of quantum chemical and statistical method" A discussion of the significance of her thesis on reddit. np.reddit.com/r/de/comments/5zzkhr/ein_treffen_auf_augenh%C3%B6he/df2dcay/So I think if Holy Cross were in Germany, the college would be fully open. _____________________________ How many times do I need repeat that much of HC's plan was written by the former chair of the BoT, a M.D., and by a current member of the BoT, also a physician who specializes in infectious diseases. One of these physicians led the webinar on COVID response to HC faculty and staff, and the other did similarly in the webinar for students and parents. Of course, if one is skeptical of advice from physicians, and particularly of physicians with a public health, infectious disease background, including one alumnus who is not on the BoT, then the college probably should not have relied on their guidance and advice.
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Post by hcpride on Sept 24, 2020 19:47:47 GMT -5
According to the CDC as of September 24, 2020, of the 188,051 reported COVID-19 deaths in the US, 353 were school-aged individuals between 15-24 years old. That’s a death rate of 0.18%. Interestingly, although unsurprisingly, no US serviceman or servicewoman under age 34 has died of Covid in the US military. 42,500 positives, 7 deaths, youngest age 34 and 3 others were age 55+. www.airforcemag.com/snapshot-dod-and-covid-19/Updated with link for service member deaths (7).
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Post by hcpride on Sept 24, 2020 19:52:26 GMT -5
Well, my high school right now serves lunches by doing a phased 2 hour (4-period) lunch, spacing out the food line, no more salad bar or complicated deli orders so the line zips along (many wraps are premade, salads are premade, drinks are bottled, etc), masks (we’re in them 7 hours or so a day) of course while in line, and then the kids carry their trays/drinks to relatively spread out areas and eat (lobby, gym, cafeteria, library, etc) in a socially distanced fashion. Don’t see why a thoughtful college couldn’t do something along those lines for each meal... even a college with one Kimball and limited alternate food locations FWIW the 7-8th grade are full time in class, 9-12 are every other day. How many students in your high school? Are they all in one building for learning? 1000 (7-12) normally, approximately 700 (+100ish staffers) each day now, all in one building. Many kids bus to school. No school sports permitted after school in the fresh air (those of us at the high school find that hysterical...7 hours in a mask indoors does that to you. ) And colleges can’t open without 10 trillion tests? We have 0.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Sept 24, 2020 19:57:16 GMT -5
Suggestion to the Honorable Dean: open up the Gen Discussion forum, start a fresh Covid thread, and move every single thread in every other forum to it, then lock every other thread and forum.
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Post by efg72 on Sept 25, 2020 7:44:23 GMT -5
Not sure where this should be posted given the general discussion section is closed. Here is the most recent IHME Covid report(weekly). If you want more info please pm and I will send your way—- remembering of course models are as good as the data and assumptions being used. www.healthdata.org/sites/default/files/files/Projects/COVID/briefing_US_092320.pdfThe authors (Chris Murray and team) are part of my public health advisory board
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2020 8:12:54 GMT -5
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Sept 25, 2020 9:37:54 GMT -5
We absolutely need to play football in 20-21
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Post by gks on Sept 25, 2020 12:59:22 GMT -5
We absolutely need to play football in 20-21 Agreed. If PL takes year off an every other 1-AA conference plays it's a bad look. Risk of players transferring out grows. There is no reason not to play.
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Post by purplehaze on Sept 25, 2020 19:22:37 GMT -5
It looks like there will be no FBS football in the spring, leaving that time to the FCS exclusively- all 10 FBS conferences are playing in the fall with today’s announcement that the MAC will have a 6 game slate starting nov 4th (they play weekday games)
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Post by joshua1 on Sept 25, 2020 20:13:36 GMT -5
It looks like there will be no FBS football in the spring, leaving that time to the FCS exclusively- all 10 FBS conferences are playing in the fall with today’s announcement that the MAC will have a 6 game slate starting nov 4th (they play weekday games) do you think we see Holycross football this spring
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Post by rgs318 on Sept 25, 2020 20:15:23 GMT -5
It looks like there will be no FBS football in the spring, leaving that time to the FCS exclusively- all 10 FBS conferences are playing in the fall with today’s announcement that the MAC will have a 6 game slate starting nov 4th (they play weekday games) do you think we see Holycross football this spring I don't...but I would be thrilled if we did.
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Post by HC92 on Sept 25, 2020 20:42:32 GMT -5
It looks like there will be no FBS football in the spring, leaving that time to the FCS exclusively- all 10 FBS conferences are playing in the fall with today’s announcement that the MAC will have a 6 game slate starting nov 4th (they play weekday games) do you think we see Holycross football this spring I think it’s a more likely scenario than I did a few weeks ago. A lot of things will happen over the next few months that make it more or less likely.
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Post by sader1970 on Sept 25, 2020 20:51:55 GMT -5
Josh, I'm in the minority here but when we ran the poll, I was one of the ones who voted that the Crusaders would play in the spring (no inside information, just a "gut" feeling). I still think that. I'd give the chances at 60%-40% Chesney's crew play in the "spring" - using that seasonal term very loosely.
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Post by longsuffering on Sept 26, 2020 0:57:47 GMT -5
I hope we do Josh. HC has a Ferrari sitting in the garage with a tarp on it. NFL games are proceeding safely.
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Post by cruskater31 on Sept 29, 2020 21:12:54 GMT -5
With the NCAA approving the 16 team FCS bracket for the Spring (https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/29947215/spring-16-team-playoff-bracket-approved-fcs-football) without at-large bids, our chances of winning a game or two in the postseason just might have gone up. Imagine if JMU is knocked off and doesn't win the CAA or NDSU, for example. The bracket could be weaker (then again it could also be literally the 16 best teams who all win their conferences!). What do I know?! If there is an FCS playoff in the Spring, which looks quite likely, it is an awful look for our recruits and players if we do not play. Transfers galore!
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Post by hc2020 on Sept 30, 2020 10:48:12 GMT -5
CAA announces plan to play football in the spring. Will the PL come out with a similar plan anytime soon?
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Post by dharry13 on Sept 30, 2020 11:11:57 GMT -5
5 conferences have announced their plan
HC and the PL for that matter doesn’t do anything without the Ivies blessing - sarcasm intended. So we won’t know until the Ivies declare their plan if they create one
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Post by hc2020 on Sept 30, 2020 11:16:54 GMT -5
5 conferences have announced their plan HC and the PL for that matter doesn’t do anything without the Ivies blessing - sarcasm intended. So we won’t know until the Ivies declare their plan if they create one You are probably correct, which is both disappointing and troubling.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Sept 30, 2020 12:56:52 GMT -5
If there was ever an opportunity to have a Patriot - Ivy Bowl, this is the year for it.
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Post by thecrossisback on Sept 30, 2020 13:57:46 GMT -5
Its time in the spring to play football. Lets GO!
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Sept 30, 2020 14:16:00 GMT -5
5 conferences have announced their plan HC and the PL for that matter doesn’t do anything without the Ivies blessing - sarcasm intended. So we won’t know until the Ivies declare their plan if they create one The Ivies, and Georgetown have a problem. Their plans for the spring were to bring only part of the school back; e.g., freshmen on campus in the fall, replaced by seniors in the spring. There is much uncertainty on the voy board about what the Ivies will do.
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Post by dharry13 on Oct 1, 2020 19:43:15 GMT -5
Anyone see the tweet from Ayir?
Appealing to HC - “we have to figure out this Spring Semester”
If all the other conferences can figure it out so can the PL
Enough is enough. Let the kids play.
Of course if there are large outbreaks over the winter then bets are off. But at least get the framework together to plan to have a season.
If not just let every kid transfer over Xmas and call it a day.
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