Post by sader1970 on Sept 24, 2016 18:07:06 GMT -5
Yes Bell also injured and heard it was a hamstring. I doubt we will see Peter the rest of the year, or at best, the last few games. I would expect Geoff Wade for most, if not the rest of the season, at QB.
I picked Dartmouth but figured it would be a close game and a possible Crusader victory. Not today.
Post by crusader12 on Sept 24, 2016 18:38:32 GMT -5
I just want to say I am a huge HC Football supporter and wish nothing but the best for the program. As a football donor and former season ticket holder I try to do all I can to support the team. I would love to see HC succeed in the future.
That being said, I am totally embarrassed by today's performance on and off the field. The best part of today was catching up with classmates and alum at the tailgate because the football product on the field absolutely stinks! We cant recruit, we are undersized and totally out coached. The end of the 1st half was a total nightmare and collapse. The security staff on the baseball field dress as if they are about to invade Poland and try to "bully" alumni and donors around and put on their "tough guy" attitude. This staff totally takes away from the game day experience because why would we go into the stadium and watch that embarrassment when we can catch up with alum. Cant even do that anymore. So glad I did not renew my season tickets for the first time in years to pay all those stupid fees for 1 less home game. WE DESERVE BETTER. I don't care about all your twitter, black helmets, new signs on the stadium, etc. It's all lipstick on a fat ugly pig and things need to change.
I wish HCFB nothing but the best and will continue to buy tickets at the door for the next 3 home games and NYC. But they are slowly losing my commitment, real change is not a new Fitton field poster or mascot. GO CROSS GO
It is what it is....campus was jacked up and ready to get behind this team...I had a late start and had to park on Clay St as no spots were available on campus. The game itself totally deflated the mood on campus. (Went out at half with some friends to their tailgate on the baseball field... so I wasn't subjugated to their Stasi-like tactics...but you're the third person 12 I've seen online just now complaining about them....seriously? On Homecoming??? Priorities people)
PP being out is really going to hurt this team but we shouldn't be all about 1 player if our program was solid.
I credit Gilmore with resurrecting this program in the early 2000s but it's just time for a change...it just is.
Post by nycrusader2010 on Sept 24, 2016 19:56:48 GMT -5
Obviously a very disappointing day all around -- injury-wise and result-wise. Take away the muffed punt in the EZ and the losses at QB and I think it would have been a competitive game. Crusader12 -- pretty much spot on with your analysis. I will continue to support this team thick and thin but whatever hope there was for a breakout season is gone after the past two performances. I attended four games last season (@ Towson, @ Fordham, @ Lehigh, v. Georgetown) and no doubt thought I was looking at a program finally on the rise after the abysmal stretch of 2012-2014.
The highlight of the day was that Freshman Field was about as vibrant pre-game as I can remember (though only a shade under 10K made it into the stadium which is a little light for Homecoming, especially for a home opener against a traditional rival). I always make sure I'm in the stadium and seated by kickoff so I can't comment on the Gestapo tactics but I did get very annoyed late in the first quarter when PD had sirens and megaphones blaring on the baseball field and it was impossible to hear the PA.
I will probably be at Lafayette next week and expect it to be a pretty even game. Will take any win there, no matter how ugly. Don't even want to think ahead beyond that. Need to get on the positive side of the turnover battle. I believe we are -8 the last two weeks -- can't win like that.
I was somewhat impressed by the job Wade did given that he's our third QB -- you're right that we can't be all about one player but losing a three-year captain is one hell of an obstacle to overcome. Especially given that PP had finally blossomed from the raw, streaky, red zone turnover-prone specimen into a truly elite PL QB and All-America candidate.
WRT Gilmore, I don't know what is going to happen after this season .Should we go on to finish with a losing record, Nate Pine wouldn't be wrong to make a change. TG has built a solid foundation and made HC football respectable after a decade + of dark ages but just hasn't proven that he can win those marquee games both within the PL and against top-25 FCS competition out of conference. More often than not, it's "close but no cigar" as we seem prepared for these games but unable to seal the deal due to game management and getting worn down by the opponent.
Post by timholycross on Sept 24, 2016 20:38:16 GMT -5
A player obtains a medical redshirt by applying for one through the NCAA following a season when they meet each of the following requirements:
The player must have suffered an injury during their senior year of high school, or during one of their four eligible seasons for college competition. (This does not provide for players who are already redshirting a season and are injured in practice.) The injury suffered must be "incapacitating", meaning it must be a season-ending injury. The injury must occur during the first half of the season. The player must have competed in no more than 30% of the season or four games, whichever is greater.
Confused by the last one. PP played in 4 games, but 4 games is more than 30% of HCs season. So if he missed the season is he eligible or not eligible to come back?
Hope he's back in a few weeks anyway. Don't want to throw the year away and without him looks like a two or three win season (especially if Bell can't play for a while too).
Face it, we would have lost even if PP were in there.
Undoubtedly. Probably the best HC's defense* could play too, not that 28 points surrendered is that great. But truth be told, HC wasn't moving the ball very well at all after the initial drive.
*someone mentioned #38 not wrapping up the ball carrier on what proved to be a 40 yard td run.. Also, the first drive of the game, on 3rd & 8 or 9; the db had a chance to contain the receiver after a short pass and coudn't do it. The result was a 10 or 11 yard gain, a first down, and 3 or 4 plays later a touchdown.
hc87- Have to agree with you based on yesterday's attendance. We should acknowledge that the TV camera placements and shots were more varied and interesting. I think Jamie Reynolds and TV3 deserve credit for that. We still need to place a camera on the visitors side so we can shoot the home sideline and home crowd.
In reflecting on the game yesterday, it was fairly evident that with or without PP, there was little chance of victory. Our defense is so suspect that, absent a few plays here and there on third down, the only folks stopping Dartmouth was Dartmouth. It seemed pretty clear that between a lack of discipline in positioning and just poor schemes, there were so many wide areas of space for Dartmouth to take advantage of. Coaching?
And, given that out PR should have let the punt at the end of the half bounce into the end zone, can we just line up in a power formation and run the ball. At least make them use time outs (that as it turned out, they would not need anyways) and create a bit of space. Especially with inexperience at QB. Coaching?
I think it is time for the CTG era to end. One title in how many years? How many years of below .500 or just barely .500 ball? How many assistants - and excuse me, but there must be huge issues for an OL assistant to leave (fired? Resigned?) after week three. Time for a big change - Gilmore must go!
Post by timholycross on Sept 25, 2016 8:09:16 GMT -5
The thing about the crowd is that Dartmouth, whose program is making great strides the past few years, again apparently brought no one. Very few visiting teams do, it seems. I've said it before, would rather play them up there*; at least it's a nice trip.
*what game vs Dartmouth at home does anyone have any memories of since the aforementioned Jack Lentz game in the 60s?
I was at the game yesterday and left at halftime. I couldn't take it anymore. Holy Cross's defense and offense are both inept. What bothers me is that we are in the fourth year of scholarships. How has the football team benefited by going back to scholarships? Instead of getting better, the team is getting worse. I have been a season ticket for over 40 years and have sat through some dismal seasons. However, yesterday's performance was the pits. I ask myself why I make a 70 mile one way trip to watch this type of football? I must confess I'm ready to toss in the towel and give up my season tickets. I know I won't be back this year, because there is nothing worth watching.