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Post by sader1970 on Sept 26, 2020 12:07:50 GMT -5
Guess you never saw the "Notre Dame, fighting Irish. Holy Cross, winning Irish" t-shirts.
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Post by res on Sept 26, 2020 12:33:42 GMT -5
Buffalo moved up to I-A in 1998 or 1999. Yes. Buffalo eliminated football after the 1970 season. They came back as a D3 program in 1977. Moved up to D1AA in 1993 and D1A in 1999.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Sept 26, 2020 13:23:07 GMT -5
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Post by timholycross on Sept 26, 2020 13:55:53 GMT -5
Fordham and Marquette both had bowl teams in the 30s when bowl appearances were few and far between, given there were only 4 bowls.
And, in 1929, one ranking had them National Champs, another had the Irish. So, certainly worthy of playing ND. Plus ND had tremendous popularity in NYC and the NY media.
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Post by hc87 on Sept 26, 2020 18:38:52 GMT -5
Speaking of Notre Dame, why has Holy Cross never played them in football? I would have thought we would have ben an attractive opponent in our glory days. They rarely played any other Catholic schools in football until the 1970s, BC, at then Schaefer Stadium. Pretty sure it was by design i.e. they wanted to be known as "the Catholic school" that played major football. ND is also one of the few FBS schools to have nevah played a 1-AA/FCS school. Going back a few posts, Buffalo who we did play a fair amount in the 60s and early 70s, dropped football sometime in the 70s I believe without looking it up. Restored it later at the FCS level and subsequently moved up to FBS....we play them again in 2022. Almost certain the criteria for 1-A in 1980 was a 30K stadium and a 17K home attendance average....we were a few K below both of those in 1980. Yale was the only school (in the Northeast anyway) that went 1-AA that met both those requirements at the time. Whoops....didn't see the last few posts that addressed some of these issues....carry on
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Post by HC92 on Sept 26, 2020 19:42:00 GMT -5
“Texas State” 21, BC 14. 9:00 left in the fourth.
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Post by longsuffering on Sept 26, 2020 20:07:12 GMT -5
Fordham and Marquette both had bowl teams in the 30s when bowl appearances were few and far between, given there were only 4 bowls. And, in 1929, one ranking had them National Champs, another had the Irish. So, certainly worthy of playing ND. Plus ND had tremendous popularity in NYC and the NY media. Notre Dame vs Fordham with the seven blocks of granite at Yankee Stadium in the 1930s would have been a natural. The subway would have been busy that day. It took 80 years but HC finally stood in for ND at Yankee Stadium and Fordham played like the seven blocks of granite had come back to life. Vince Lombardi was one of the seven offensive lineman and future BC coach Frank Leahy was the offensive line coach.
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Post by hc87 on Sept 26, 2020 20:31:33 GMT -5
Texas St threw up all ovah themselves in the 4th Q and lost 24-21
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Post by hcpride on Sept 26, 2020 20:40:50 GMT -5
ND - FU at The Stadium would have been a natural. Then, why didn't it happen. Many years ago I was told that ND refused to play FU due to the possibility that they would lose. At that time ND was most concerned about keeping its position as the #1 Catholic football school in the nation. A game against FU or worse yet a loss would have showcased FU to sought after recruits. Also, ND did not want to risk losing the loyal support of the Catholic ethnic subway alumni to FU. The game was viewed as a threat to ND's preeminence. Could be wrong but the two never played during FU's heyday in the '30's.. As a deceased HC alum used to say: ND was a university built on the forward pass. ND certainly is a great U Obviously, today it's quite different as ND-BC is a regular occurrence. A mother of a recent BC grad was not aware of the HC-BC rivalry. She simply did not believe it and thought ND was traditionally the big rival for BC. It seems everything in this life is fleeting and of no real consequence. (Zen?) The mother may not be alone. Here is Wikipedia reference BC’s ‘83 season: “Junior quarterback Doug Flutie threw for over 2,700 yards and finished 3rd in the Heisman voting, leading Boston College to their first ranked finish in 41 years. They met their rivals, Notre Dame, in the 1983 Liberty Bowl.”
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Post by hc87 on Sept 26, 2020 22:26:49 GMT -5
uggghhh......
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Post by timholycross on Sept 27, 2020 10:25:16 GMT -5
Speaking of Notre Dame, why has Holy Cross never played them in football? I would have thought we would have ben an attractive opponent in our glory days. They rarely played any other Catholic schools in football until the 1970s, BC, at then Schaefer Stadium. Pretty sure it was by design i.e. they wanted to be known as "the Catholic school" that played major football. ND is also one of the few FBS schools to have nevah played a 1-AA/FCS school. Going back a few posts, Buffalo who we did play a fair amount in the 60s and early 70s, dropped football sometime in the 70s I believe without looking it up. Restored it later at the FCS level and subsequently moved up to FBS....we play them again in 2022. Almost certain the criteria for 1-A in 1980 was a 30K stadium and a 17K home attendance average....we were a few K below both of those in 1980. Yale was the only school (in the Northeast anyway) that went 1-AA that met both those requirements at the time. Whoops....didn't see the last few posts that addressed some of these issues....carry on One of many indignities in the 0-10-1 1970 (the season after hepatitis) campaign was losing to a barely breathing Buffalo program and the Bulls then dropping football.
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Post by timholycross on Sept 27, 2020 10:29:36 GMT -5
Texas St threw up all ovah themselves in the 4th Q and lost 24-21 BC is certainly better but light years from being good. Their strong point is protecting the passer, at least in terms of how poor they were at that last year.
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Post by longsuffering on Sept 27, 2020 10:50:19 GMT -5
Does BC have an ACC arch rival? Syracuse?
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Post by hc87 on Sept 27, 2020 11:11:54 GMT -5
They rarely played any other Catholic schools in football until the 1970s, BC, at then Schaefer Stadium. Pretty sure it was by design i.e. they wanted to be known as "the Catholic school" that played major football. ND is also one of the few FBS schools to have nevah played a 1-AA/FCS school. Going back a few posts, Buffalo who we did play a fair amount in the 60s and early 70s, dropped football sometime in the 70s I believe without looking it up. Restored it later at the FCS level and subsequently moved up to FBS....we play them again in 2022. Almost certain the criteria for 1-A in 1980 was a 30K stadium and a 17K home attendance average....we were a few K below both of those in 1980. Yale was the only school (in the Northeast anyway) that went 1-AA that met both those requirements at the time. Whoops....didn't see the last few posts that addressed some of these issues....carry on One of many indignities in the 0-10-1 1970 (the season after hepatitis) campaign was losing to a barely breathing Buffalo program and the Bulls then dropping football. That game was on ABC believe it or not...vaguely remembah watching that as a little kid.
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Post by hc87 on Sept 27, 2020 11:16:52 GMT -5
Does BC have an ACC arch rival? Syracuse? Probably, yeah. That was a burgeoning rivalry between them in the era when we last played them regularly and then afterwards in the Big East football era. Sort of an odd rivalry though...not a lot of crossovah students, alums etc between Syracuse and BC then and now.
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Post by hcpride on Sept 27, 2020 11:48:12 GMT -5
One of many indignities in the 0-10-1 1970 (the season after hepatitis) campaign was losing to a barely breathing Buffalo program and the Bulls then dropping football. That game was on ABC believe it or not...vaguely remembah watching that as a little kid. Ouch! I had to look that one up in the archives. The shutout loss couldn't have been a big surprise since Buffalo beat us the year before the hepatitis season too.
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Post by longsuffering on Sept 27, 2020 15:45:03 GMT -5
Does BC have an ACC arch rival? Syracuse? Probably, yeah. That was a burgeoning rivalry between them in the era when we last played them regularly and then afterwards in the Big East football era. Sort of an odd rivalry though...not a lot of crossovah students, alums etc between Syracuse and BC then and now. The only connection is BC alums listen to Syracuse alums broadcast games.😊
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