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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Sept 4, 2020 11:26:05 GMT -5
Tom Seaver went 311-205 in his regular season career, so he was a net winner of 106 games. Can you name the other pitchers who fill out the Baker's Dozen of pitchers in the post war era who had 100 or more net wins for his total regular season career? To be on the list the pitcher must have pitched at least one game after the end of WWII.
You don't need to get them in order, but I will show the order as that makes it easier to track the correct answers
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Post by CHC8485 on Sept 4, 2020 11:38:14 GMT -5
Bob Gibson
Pedro Martinez
Warren Spahn
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Sept 4, 2020 11:44:25 GMT -5
Roger Clemens?
Jim Palmer?
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Post by hchoops on Sept 4, 2020 11:58:46 GMT -5
Whitey Ford (pains me)
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Post by Tom on Sept 4, 2020 12:00:46 GMT -5
koufax
maddux
Randy johnson
Wild guess, not because he was great, but because he pitched for a long time on great teams. . Andy Pettite
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Sept 4, 2020 12:39:49 GMT -5
Koufax (only won 166 games I think) and Gibson are not correct-the other guesses are spot on
1= + 170 Clemens with an unreal 354-184 record
2= + 137 Randy Johnson 303-166
3= +130 the great Whitey Ford 236-106
4= +128 Greg Maddux 355-227
5= +119 Pedro Martinez with a remarkable 219-100 record
6= +118 Warren Spahn 363-245
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8= +116 Jim Palmer 268-152
9= +106 Tom Seaver 311-205
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11= +103 Andy Pettite 256-153
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Andy Pettite has, I believe, another distinction and it is a singular one. He is the only pitcher is baseball history to win 200+ games and never have a losing season. To accomplish that he had to win the last game he pitched and in winning it go 11-11 for his last season
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Post by possum on Sept 4, 2020 13:35:41 GMT -5
Marichal, Glavine, Feller
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Post by possum on Sept 4, 2020 13:39:43 GMT -5
Mussina
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Post by WorcesterGray on Sept 4, 2020 13:49:17 GMT -5
Ted Lyons
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Sept 4, 2020 14:04:34 GMT -5
Some more recent names...
Roy Halladay
Tim Hudson
CC Sabathia
Justin Verlander
Clayton Kershaw
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Post by WorcesterGray on Sept 4, 2020 14:11:14 GMT -5
Hal Newhouser
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Sept 4, 2020 14:17:58 GMT -5
Steve Carlton?
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Post by WorcesterGray on Sept 4, 2020 14:18:42 GMT -5
Some more recent names... Roy Halladay Tim Hudson CC Sabathia Justin Verlander Clayton Kershaw So close. Impressive guesswork, SoV . . .
Kershaw, +99 Halladay, +98
Verlander, +97
Sabathia, +90
Hudson, +89
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Sept 4, 2020 14:23:17 GMT -5
Damn, I would have thought at least one or two of these guys would have been on there.
Kershaw and Verlander will join the club soon. I'm sure Max Scherzer will reach it, as well.
Zack Greinke is slowing down and getting up there in age, but he has a shot, too.
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Post by CHC8485 on Sept 4, 2020 14:51:39 GMT -5
How about the other half of the '90's Braves top 2 starters Tom Glavine?
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Sept 4, 2020 15:13:42 GMT -5
Koufax (only won 166 games I think) and Gibson are not correct-the other guesses are spot on 1= + 170 Clemens with an unreal 354-184 record 2= + 137 Randy Johnson 303-166 3= +130 the great Whitey Ford 236-106 4= +128 Greg Maddux 355-227 5= +119 Pedro Martinez with a remarkable 219-100 record 6= +118 Warren Spahn 363-245 7=+117 Mike Mussina 270-153 8= +116 Jim Palmer 268-152 9= +106 Tom Seaver 311-205 10=+104 Bob Feller 266-162 11= +103 Andy Pettite 256-153 12= +1-2 Tom Glavine 305-203 13= +101 Juan Marichal 243-142 Andy Pettite has, I believe, another distinction and it is a singular one. He is the only pitcher is baseball history to win 200+ games and never have a losing season. To accomplish that he had to win the last game he pitched and in winning it go 11-11 for his last season Filled in the last names above and you have nailed the whole list--great work and now back to Kentucky Oaks Day at Chirchill Downs |
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Post by rgs318 on Sept 4, 2020 15:59:19 GMT -5
Thanks, KY.
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Post by longsuffering on Sept 4, 2020 20:32:47 GMT -5
Are you confusing him with Whitey Bulger? What's not to like about "The Chairman of the Board" Whitey Ford? |
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Post by longsuffering on Sept 4, 2020 20:43:59 GMT -5
Koufax (only won 166 games I think) and Gibson are not correct-the other guesses are spot on 1= + 170 Clemens with an unreal 354-184 record 2= + 137 Randy Johnson 303-166 3= +130 the great Whitey Ford 236-106 4= +128 Greg Maddux 355-227 5= +119 Pedro Martinez with a remarkable 219-100 record 6= +118 Warren Spahn 363-245 7=+117 Mike Mussina 270-153 8= +116 Jim Palmer 268-152 9= +106 Tom Seaver 311-205 10=+104 Bob Feller 266-162 11= +103 Andy Pettite 256-153 12= +1-2 Tom Glavine 305-203 13= +101 Juan Marichal 243-142 Andy Pettite has, I believe, another distinction and it is a singular one. He is the only pitcher is baseball history to win 200+ games and never have a losing season. To accomplish that he had to win the last game he pitched and in winning it go 11-11 for his last season Filled in the last names above and you have nailed the whole list--great work and now back to Kentucky Oaks Day at Chirchill Downs I didn't realize the "Big Unit" Randy Johnson had such a good winning percentage. I remembered him as closer to .500 with a ton of no-hitters. Also, I am kind of glad the Rocket's "jet fuel" ran out before he caught Battle of the Bulge veteran, purple heart recipient and WW2 battlefield commission earner Warren Spahn's victory total. |
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Post by longsuffering on Sept 4, 2020 20:48:50 GMT -5
Speaking of Warren Spahn, the first pitcher to ever face Jackie Robinson is often associated with Spahn. Who is he?
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Post by longsuffering on Sept 4, 2020 20:53:35 GMT -5
Koufax (only won 166 games I think) and Gibson are not correct-the other guesses are spot on 1= + 170 Clemens with an unreal 354-184 record 2= + 137 Randy Johnson 303-166 3= +130 the great Whitey Ford 236-106 4= +128 Greg Maddux 355-227 5= +119 Pedro Martinez with a remarkable 219-100 record 6= +118 Warren Spahn 363-245 7=+117 Mike Mussina 270-153 8= +116 Jim Palmer 268-152 9= +106 Tom Seaver 311-205 10=+104 Bob Feller 266-162 11= +103 Andy Pettite 256-153 12= +1-2 Tom Glavine 305-203 13= +101 Juan Marichal 243-142 Andy Pettite has, I believe, another distinction and it is a singular one. He is the only pitcher is baseball history to win 200+ games and never have a losing season. To accomplish that he had to win the last game he pitched and in winning it go 11-11 for his last season Filled in the last names above and you have nailed the whole list--great work and now back to Kentucky Oaks Day at Chirchill Downs Happy the Derby didn't forget it's loyal fans despite the pandemic. The Boston Marathon announced today that they will not confirm whether next April's race will actually be held until they see how conditions play out, and they cancelled this year's Marathon. A tip of the cap to the Derby. |
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Post by breezy on Sept 4, 2020 20:56:20 GMT -5
My guess would be Johnny Sain.
Re: Sandy Koufax. I read a book not too long ago that had a quote from Yogi Berra after Koufax defeated the Yankees in the first game of the 1963 World Series. Koufax had a record of 26-5 during the regular season, and Berra was apparently impressed in watching Koufax overwhelm the Yankees. His comment was: "I can see how he won 26 games during the season. What I don't understand is how he could lose 5."
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Sept 5, 2020 4:03:50 GMT -5
Filled in the last names above and you have nailed the whole list--great work and now back to Kentucky Oaks Day at Chirchill Downs I didn't realize the "Big Unit" Randy Johnson had such a good winning percentage. I remembered him as closer to .500 with a ton of no-hitters. I thought the very same thing.
Poor Sandy Koufax just didn't have enough time. If his elbow could have held up till his mid/late 30's he would have been on this list easily.
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Post by WorcesterGray on Sept 5, 2020 5:28:28 GMT -5
Speaking of Warren Spahn . . . Spahn won 277 games after he turned thirty-years-old. Remarkable. |
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Post by hchoops on Sept 5, 2020 6:42:59 GMT -5
Bob Feller accomplished the over 100 level despite missing more than 3 1/2 Seasons at the peak of his career by serving in WWII
He could have won well over 300 games
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