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Post by WorcesterGray on Oct 6, 2020 15:14:00 GMT -5
Zach Wheat. Duh.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Oct 6, 2020 15:30:08 GMT -5
Zach Wheat is correct. His career pretty much coincided with Ty Cobb's but with Cobb in the AL and Wheat in the NL until they played together in Wheat's last season, 1927, on Connie Mack's A's. Wheat hit .324 at a 39YO that season while Cobb, at age 40, batted .357. Baseball Reference has Wheat as #16 left fielder although he never exceeded 23% of the HOF vote, making it into the Hall via the veterans committee. Looking just at batting stats, the Baseball-Reference algorithm's "similarity score" has him in pretty solid company. The guys with asterisks are HOFers.
1) Tony Gwynn (878.1) * 2) Roberto Clemente (874.7) * 3) Heinie Manush (871.3) * 4) Al Oliver (863.7) 5) Sam Crawford (863.4) * 6) Sam Rice (858.5) * 7) Enos Slaughter (858.1) * 8) George Sisler (853.1) * 9) Frankie Frisch (838.8) * 10) Jimmy Ryan (837.3) * - Signifies Hall of Fame
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Post by WorcesterGray on Oct 6, 2020 15:31:59 GMT -5
1 Snider 2 Hodges 3 4 FurilloHe had his first 100-RBI season in 1949, when the Dodgers won the pennant. Brooklyn had guys who got on base a lot usually ahead of him in the order - Reese, Robinson, Snider (all of whom could fly), and Hodges (who was no slouch on the paths, either.)
Baseball-ref has good historical stuff on batting orders. Interesting how the lineups moved around - but in 1950, Furillo settled into the 5th spot, for 150 games.
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Post by hchoops on Oct 6, 2020 15:39:42 GMT -5
Nickname Skoonj
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Post by timholycross on Oct 7, 2020 12:42:53 GMT -5
Interesting that Robinson, with that great speed and never hitting even 20 homers in a season; batted cleanup that entire season. Led the league in BA.
Off topic- someone's got to revise the distance on that homer Stanton hit last night. 458 feet was understated.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Oct 7, 2020 15:03:39 GMT -5
Interesting that Robinson, with that great speed and never hitting even 20 homers in a season; batted cleanup that entire season. Led the league in BA. Off topic- someone's got to revise the distance on that homer Stanton hit last night. 458 feet was understated. I would not have had JR batting cleanup. He had a very high on base percentage and only moderate power and with Pee Wee a solid leadoff man I might have had Jackie bate second--would be great to have one or both of those guys on base with the power hitters coming up. I see that Cal Abrams batted leadoff to start the season--I worked with his daughter Monica with The Coca-Cola Company in Saint Louis in 81 or 82
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Post by hchoops on Oct 7, 2020 16:21:30 GMT -5
I believe that On base % was an unknown stat at the time. Jackie’s 124 RBIs was the determinant stat. His 9.3 WAR led the majors
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Post by WorcesterGray on Oct 7, 2020 16:23:13 GMT -5
I see that Cal Abrams batted leadoff to start the season--I worked with his daughter Monica with The Coca-Cola Company in Saint Louis in 81 or 82 Abrams was a rookie in '49, and had just a cup of coffee his first two years. But he turned into a useful part-time+ player over an eight-year career, an on-base machine (.386 lifetime over 2,000 PA), well-suited to lead off, even though he was a lousy base-stealer.
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