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Post by armsue on Nov 21, 2020 13:14:05 GMT -5
Can anyone let me know how we lost him? Academics? Discipline? I am getting completely turned off.
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Post by lou on Nov 21, 2020 13:19:11 GMT -5
Pridgen: Selected to the Patriot League Academic Honor Roll
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Nov 21, 2020 13:26:39 GMT -5
I think he transferred to UNC Wilmington. Or am I getting him confused with the other frosh stud who left?
Its at the point where I can't keep track.
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Post by hchoops on Nov 21, 2020 13:43:45 GMT -5
I think he transferred to UNC Wilmington. Or am I getting him confused with the other frosh stud who left? Its at the point where I can't keep track. You are correct The other top freshman, Drew Lowder, went to Eastern or Western Michigan |
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Nov 21, 2020 13:54:22 GMT -5
Eastern
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Post by Tom on Nov 21, 2020 17:32:55 GMT -5
Can anyone let me know how we lost him? Academics? Discipline? I am getting completely turned off. I seem to recall there was some interview after the transfer where Pridgen said he never planned to stay for four years. I guess the way we "lost" him was not teaching him the importance of the non basketball aspects of college |
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Post by hchoops on Nov 21, 2020 17:51:12 GMT -5
One would think he would have realized that once he chose any Patriot League school, especially HC.
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Post by purplehaze on Nov 21, 2020 17:55:12 GMT -5
Wondering, Did either one of those guys apply for a waiver to play this season ?
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Post by timholycross on Nov 21, 2020 18:52:33 GMT -5
I believe from what I saw about EMU basketball, Lowder is playing now.
Pridgen's class on the UNCW site is listed as "Redshirt".
In general, unless I was given 4 more years of eligibility instead of 3 (because of the Covid exception), I would not burn a season on 2020-21.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Nov 22, 2020 7:44:10 GMT -5
Academics aside, the fact that Pridgen saw UNCW, an also-ran in a diluted CAA for years now, as a significantly better hoops opportunity than HC, tells us everything we need to know about the current state of our program.
Pridgen was probably in 2nd grade the last time UNCW was a nationally relevant mid-major. Maybe theres something brewing in Wilmington that we don't yet know about.
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Post by Tom on Nov 22, 2020 10:11:45 GMT -5
I believe from what I saw about EMU basketball, Lowder is playing now. Pridgen's class on the UNCW site is listed as "Redshirt". In general, unless I was given 4 more years of eligibility instead of 3 (because of the Covid exception), I would not burn a season on 2020-21. Made me look. Lowder is listed on the Eastern Michigan roster. I wonder if, in the era of COVID, it's easier to get a waiver to transfer closer to home. |
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Post by bison137 on Nov 22, 2020 10:33:57 GMT -5
Academics aside, the fact that Pridgen saw UNCW, an also-ran in a diluted CAA for years now, as a significantly better hoops opportunity than HC, tells us everything we need to know about the current state of our program. Pridgen was probably in 2nd grade the last time UNCW was a nationally relevant mid-major. Maybe theres something brewing in Wilmington that we don't yet know about. UNCW was very good in 2015-16 and 2016-17. Had overall records of 25-8 and 29-6. Won the CAA regular season and tournament both years. And played close NCAA games vs Virginia and Duke. That performance got coach Kevin Keats the NC State job. But they haven’t been good since he left. |
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Nov 22, 2020 12:29:47 GMT -5
I mustve forgotten about those more recent UNCW teams. But from roughly 2008 until those 2 years, they also had a pretty quiet period. UNCW was class of the CAA from 2000-2006, and that was when VCU, ODU and Mason were there.
I think Wilmington WON the CAA the year Mason went to the Final Four.
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Post by longsuffering on Nov 22, 2020 15:31:09 GMT -5
I believe from what I saw about EMU basketball, Lowder is playing now. Pridgen's class on the UNCW site is listed as "Redshirt". In general, unless I was given 4 more years of eligibility instead of 3 (because of the Covid exception), I would not burn a season on 2020-21. Made me look. Lowder is listed on the Eastern Michigan roster. I wonder if, in the era of COVID, it's easier to get a waiver to transfer closer to home. The fact that Lowder was recruited by one coach and then didn't mesh with the new coach might have helped him play right away as well as the fact he only played a partial season at HC. In a way Lowder "put his money where his mouth is" by leaving the team and giving up the opportunity to be the leading scorer for an entire season on a D-1 team as a freshman which should be an asset in the transfer portal. Freshmen don't lead D-1 teams in scoring that often. Joe P. and I assume RP jr and Jack the Shot did it, but probably not too many more at HC. |
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Nov 22, 2020 15:34:53 GMT -5
Jack The Shot played in the freshmen-ineligible era
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Post by longsuffering on Nov 22, 2020 15:48:48 GMT -5
Great Jack the Shot quote, asked by Bob Fouracre during Ronnie Perry jr's freshman season if he thought Ronnie had a chance to surpass his scoring records, Foley answered "well, he's already beat my passing record."
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Post by hchoops on Nov 22, 2020 15:55:04 GMT -5
Made me look. Lowder is listed on the Eastern Michigan roster. I wonder if, in the era of COVID, it's easier to get a waiver to transfer closer to home. The fact that Lowder was recruited by one coach and then didn't mesh with the new coach might have helped him play right away as well as the fact he only played a partial season at HC. In a way Lowder "put his money where his mouth is" by leaving the team and giving up the opportunity to be the leading scorer for an entire season on a D-1 team as a freshman which should be an asset in the transfer portal. Freshmen don't lead D-1 teams in scoring that often. Joe P. and I assume RP jr and Jack the Shot did it, but probably not too many more at HC. In 2008-09 freshman RJ Evans led the team in scoring. In 1974-75 season freshmen Potter and Vicens each had 411 points to lead the team. In 1945-46 freshmanGeorge Kaftan led the team in scoring |
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Post by Xmassader on Nov 22, 2020 16:22:27 GMT -5
For those with the Big Ten Network and an interest in seeing former Crusaders in action, check out Illinois at 2pm on Wednesday 11/25 and Eastern Michigan (vs. Michigan State) at 6pm.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Nov 23, 2020 23:34:31 GMT -5
Re: Joe Pridgen-- I'm wondering if he wanted to go to UNC-W because John Calipari played there???
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 24, 2020 4:41:03 GMT -5
Ouch!😫
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Post by Ray on Nov 24, 2020 9:06:25 GMT -5
Re: Joe Pridgen-- I'm wondering if he wanted to go to UNC-W because John Calipari played there??? It's probably a fallacy that he left HC knowing he would end up at UNC-W. More likely he left based on vague advice that he could land at level X if he transferred, and once he triggered the transfer portal, he evaluated options and ended up at UNC-W. But it might be less of a direct line than is suggested here. |
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Post by timholycross on Nov 24, 2020 9:22:02 GMT -5
Unless they recruited him or some coach that did ended up at UNCW, I doubt it.
My guess is that the "Level X" that Ray referred to is a wee bit higher than where Joe ended up. Or the league is about what he expected but not the bottom of it.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Nov 24, 2020 10:23:27 GMT -5
Re: Joe Pridgen-- I'm wondering if he wanted to go to UNC-W because John Calipari played there??? It's probably a fallacy that he left HC knowing he would end up at UNC-W. More likely he left based on vague advice that he could land at level X if he transferred, and once he triggered the transfer portal, he evaluated options and ended up at UNC-W. But it might be less of a direct line than is suggested here. I think you may be right on the money here. Of course I was joking with the Calipari comment--just having fun as I know some on the board detest him. Would anyone be surprised if Joe had a good season at UNC-W and then tried to "move up" again? |
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Post by Tom on Nov 24, 2020 10:45:28 GMT -5
It's probably a fallacy that he left HC knowing he would end up at UNC-W. More likely he left based on vague advice that he could land at level X if he transferred, and once he triggered the transfer portal, he evaluated options and ended up at UNC-W. But it might be less of a direct line than is suggested here. I think you may be right on the money here. Of course I was joking with the Calipari comment--just having fun as I know some on the board detest him. Would anyone be surprised if Joe had a good season at UNC-W and then tried to "move up" again? I would not be shocked. That being said, I hope the place has a grad school. Barring some waiver, he would be in his 5th year of college while playing as a junior at the new school |
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Post by purplehaze on Nov 24, 2020 13:45:03 GMT -5
If you're curious about another ex-crusader, Caleb Green and Fairfield play at PC tmro at 2pm on FS1 (same time as Grandison plays)
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