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Post by HC92 on Oct 8, 2016 17:33:56 GMT -5
Saw the new arena today in person. Looks great. Not sure about the brown in the lanes and the brown Massachusetts. However, I actually thought the Massachusetts looked better in person.
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Post by hcgrad94 on Oct 8, 2016 18:09:29 GMT -5
Saw it today as well. Looks fantastic.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Oct 8, 2016 18:23:31 GMT -5
Saw it today as well. Looks fantastic. $85M investment and the only facility impacted where games are played gets new paint, bleachers, and a new floor. Is that enough?
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Post by jflare on Oct 8, 2016 18:32:19 GMT -5
Not Really. We deserve better than that if the program wants to advance at all.
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Post by joe on Oct 8, 2016 18:41:37 GMT -5
Link to real photos?
Looks like they stained the floor and painted the walls. Not sure where the renovation was. We're still sitting on pull out high school bleachers?
What am I missing?
I thought we'd have a basketball arena.
White paint makes it look bigger? Is this a studio apartment in Fenway?
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Post by DiMarz on Oct 8, 2016 19:08:20 GMT -5
The basketball upgrades are mostly behind the scenes stuff. Real locker rooms and coaches offices, film rooms, weight rooms, strength and conditioning area, sports medicine and of of course the new upcoming practice facility! The arena is just one part of the program! Fill it every night and maybe in a few seasons more games will go to the DCU Center! And remember the women's team also plays in the Hart Center..
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Post by hcgrad94 on Oct 8, 2016 19:41:18 GMT -5
Saw it today as well. Looks fantastic. $85M investment and the only facility impacted where games are played gets new paint, bleachers, and a new floor. Is that enough? Brand new practice gym, coaches offices, locker room, film room, weight room, sports med. DCU 2 miles away. Do your research. Much rather have indoor field that impacts many sports. DCU is 2 miles away as needed.
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Post by HC92 on Oct 8, 2016 19:58:01 GMT -5
Is the upper level being changed after this season or will all changes to the basketball arena be done by opening night? I think it's the former. Not sure what the additional changes entail.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Oct 8, 2016 20:55:59 GMT -5
$85M investment and the only facility impacted where games are played gets new paint, bleachers, and a new floor. Is that enough? Brand new practice gym, coaches offices, locker room, film room, weight room, sports med. DCU 2 miles away. Do your research. Much rather have indoor field that impacts many sports. DCU is 2 miles away as needed. DCU only relevant for the 1-2 (if that) OOC games we could play there against any type of "name" opponents who would draw a crowd. Basketball is our premier sport and our chance at getting into the national spotlight, yet with $85M to invest, the arena got new paint, a new floor, and new bleachers. Indoor field isn't really necessary for our level of D1 athletics, as evidenced by the fact that nobody else has one. Is there one sport that will gain significantly from the new field and bring us to a level higher than where a top mid-major basketball program would bring us? Not to mention, we're exploring increasing our hockey budget by 3x (or is it more?) to get pounded in the Hockey East. $85M investment, $2-3M annual budget increase, and minimal amounts going to our premier program. Last March should serve as the perfect reminder to the fact that success in basketball draws exponentially more interest than any of our other sports.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Oct 8, 2016 21:11:43 GMT -5
Caro--are you suggesting that the indoor practice field will have no effect? I should think that it would help recruiting for all the sports that will use it and it should help players in practices.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Oct 8, 2016 21:47:47 GMT -5
Caro--are you suggesting that the indoor practice field will have no effect? I should think that it would help recruiting for all the sports that will use it and it should help players in practices. Sure it will (hopefully) have some level positive effect on some minor sports, and a positive effect on football, but that effect cannot be quantified right now. Are we going to start stealing Lax recruits from Duke, Cornell, etc because we have an indoor field? (I don't think high school lax players are picking schools based on indoor practice fields) And if we do, and somehow go from worst to first in the PL, would that even move the needle? Are we going go to the College World Series now that the baseball team can practice on an indoor football field during the preseason? Are we going to become a FCS powerhouse because we have an indoor practice facility? (Colgate has been pretty darn successful lately in a worse climate with no indoor facility.) I just don't think the caliber of high school student-athletes that we are recruiting have the same superficial traits to care about practice facilities the same way that high-major/BCS recruits do. Last March was an excellent reminder of how a successful basketball program can not only unite alums from all corners of the country, but also get our brand in front of a large audience that may have never heard of us before. With that being said, I struggle to understand why we would dedicate a fraction of the new investment into this program.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Oct 9, 2016 7:51:52 GMT -5
Is the upper level being changed after this season or will all changes to the basketball arena be done by opening night? I think it's the former. Not sure what the additional changes entail. I was wondering about this myself......
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Post by hcgrad94 on Oct 9, 2016 8:11:36 GMT -5
Caro--are you suggesting that the indoor practice field will have no effect? I should think that it would help recruiting for all the sports that will use it and it should help players in practices. Sure it will (hopefully) have some level positive effect on some minor sports, and a positive effect on football, but that effect cannot be quantified right now. Are we going to start stealing Lax recruits from Duke, Cornell, etc because we have an indoor field? (I don't think high school lax players are picking schools based on indoor practice fields) And if we do, and somehow go from worst to first in the PL, would that even move the needle? Are we going go to the College World Series now that the baseball team can practice on an indoor football field during the preseason? Are we going to become a FCS powerhouse because we have an indoor practice facility? (Colgate has been pretty darn successful lately in a worse climate with no indoor facility.) I just don't think the caliber of high school student-athletes that we are recruiting have the same superficial traits to care about practice facilities the same way that high-major/BCS recruits do. Last March was an excellent reminder of how a successful basketball program can not only unite alums from all corners of the country, but also get our brand in front of a large audience that may have never heard of us before. With that being said, I struggle to understand why we would dedicate a fraction of the new investment into this program. Indoor field is a total game changer both in the quality of practice it will allow all field teams to have as well as the impression it will make on recruits.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Oct 9, 2016 9:58:01 GMT -5
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Oct 9, 2016 10:12:58 GMT -5
Re: the upper level. The upper level seats (both tiers) were to be salvaged and retained.
From the drone footage, little/no work was done on the roof. Once the practice court is finished, I think the drop down baskets will be removed. There is no sign of a video board. I don't think the existing trusses will support the weight of a video board. (A video board was not part of the equipment (either college-provided, or contractor bought) listed to be installed. in the original contract.)
There is a new? video control room near the Bud Ryan room.
The life safety plans state there are 11 rows of bleachers on all four sides of the court.
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Post by sarasota on Oct 9, 2016 10:26:22 GMT -5
Looks like two rows of chairback seats in the mezzanine behind the scorer's table have been removed.
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Post by hc6774 on Oct 9, 2016 10:40:18 GMT -5
Looks like two rows of chairback seats in the mezzanine behind the scorer's table have been removed. actually appears that a 4th row has been added in the mezzanine except for the area you point out; makes up for some of the seating lost in the pull out seats; I hear that there will be some premium chair backs put on the floor;
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Oct 9, 2016 10:43:54 GMT -5
Looks like two rows of chairback seats in the mezzanine behind the scorer's table have been removed. There are eight new wheelchair stations on each mezzanine side, 16 in total, plus 16 'seats for wheelchair companions. There are also new wheelchair stations in the rink, and several are to be included by the swimming pool. The mezzanine seats have been removed for these wheelchair platforms. The new elevators, one by the Bud Ryan room, and the other near the NW corner of the NFH will provide access to the mezzanine level.
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Post by sader1970 on Oct 9, 2016 11:43:28 GMT -5
I am not sure what you guys are referring to as "mezzanine" seating but assume the chairbacks. I can tell you that in section 8 (midcourt chairbacks, opposite side of team seating [south?}, where some posters sit next to Fr. Boroughs - you know who you are ) has had only 3 rows. Yes, absolutely there will be premium chair seats at courtside - 10 on either side of the press table, for a total of 20 seats.
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Post by DiMarz on Oct 9, 2016 13:15:33 GMT -5
Looks like two rows of chairback seats in the mezzanine behind the scorer's table have been removed. I wonder if that area will be a media section? or for other officials who have sat courtside in the past..
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Post by sader1970 on Oct 9, 2016 14:13:02 GMT -5
I think I understand the flow of the conversation now. Yes, it looks like 2 of the 3 rows of chairbacks on the north side have been removed and would be consistent with Phreek saying for wheelchairs. If they removed two rows in the same area on the southside, that would eliminate my seat(s) but they look like they are right there in the foreground just left of center. Not my seats anymore anyway. I will have to take a walk up there before or after the Harvard football game to get a better idea.
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Post by HC92 on Oct 9, 2016 15:42:58 GMT -5
I think I understand the flow of the conversation now. Yes, it looks like 2 of the 3 rows of chairbacks on the north side have been removed and would be consistent with Phreek saying for wheelchairs. If they removed two rows in the same area on the southside, that would eliminate my seat(s) but they look like they are right there in the foreground just left of center. Not my seats anymore anyway. I will have to take a walk up there before or after the Harvard football game to get a better idea. No one is allowed in the gym. I walked up after the Bucknell game.
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Post by sader1970 on Oct 9, 2016 16:07:47 GMT -5
Interesting that you say that because at the football game yesterday a couple of people said they went into the Hart via the back door and saw the court.
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Post by HC92 on Oct 9, 2016 18:01:16 GMT -5
Interesting that you say that because at the football game yesterday a couple of people said they went into the Hart via the back door and saw the court. You can see the court from the window in the door in the lower corner but you're not supposed to go in so it's not a great view.
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Post by crusader12 on Oct 10, 2016 12:25:50 GMT -5
I really hate to be a cynic here but other than a fresh coat of paint, new bleachers, and new court what has changed? Clearly capacity will be smaller now moving forward. No video board in middle, no "bowl like" seating. I'm sorry but this is what $90M did? (I know there were many other improvements but this seems disappointing, no?)
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