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Post by hchoops on Dec 16, 2020 17:34:50 GMT -5
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Post by rgs318 on Dec 16, 2020 18:39:37 GMT -5
Long overdue and great to see it finally done!
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Post by alum on Dec 16, 2020 21:45:32 GMT -5
My initial reaction to this news was that Josh Gibson would be home run king as I understood that he hit more than 800 round trippers. I learned today that Negro League teams played as many exhibition games as league games and that the stats revisions only apply to league games. Gibson won’t get the title. This is interesting stuff. I think I’ll find a book on this topic and try to learn a little more.
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Post by timholycross on Dec 17, 2020 14:06:50 GMT -5
Gibson hit .400 after Williams, but it wasn't anywhere close to 154 (or 162 nowadays) games. Still, a great achievement.
Wonder what the consecutive game hit streak was in the Negro Leagues?
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Post by Tom on Dec 17, 2020 14:09:01 GMT -5
My initial reaction to this news was that Josh Gibson would be home run king as I understood that he hit more than 800 round trippers. I learned today that Negro League teams played as many exhibition games as league games and that the stats revisions only apply to league games. Gibson won’t get the title. This is interesting stuff. I think I’ll find a book on this topic and try to learn a little more. Not even close. Looks like the record book is going to give him 113. Surprised the hell out of me. The nature of things, the playing field can never be truly level, but they're consistent with the application of the rule. None of Ted Williams' 521 HR's came at Fitton |
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Dec 17, 2020 18:04:14 GMT -5
At least Gibson will be forever known for hitting basically the furthest ball ever. Didn't he hit one off the facade at the OLD old Yankee Stadium? Only other to do this was Mantle.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Dec 18, 2020 4:18:21 GMT -5
My initial reaction to this news was that Josh Gibson would be home run king as I understood that he hit more than 800 round trippers. I learned today that Negro League teams played as many exhibition games as league games and that the stats revisions only apply to league games. Gibson won’t get the title. This is interesting stuff. I think I’ll find a book on this topic and try to learn a little more. Alum, I liked the book Shades of Glory by Lawrence D. Hogan. |
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Post by hcpride on Dec 18, 2020 6:59:08 GMT -5
My first thought was home runs and Willis Mays and Hank Aaron.
It turns out that Willie Mays did not hit any documented homers during his brief time in the Negro Leagues and Hank Aaron’s time in the Negro Leagues (1952) was well after the 1948 cutoff.
(I admit I was hoping Aaron had 8 or more and didn’t know the cutoff date.)
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Dec 18, 2020 8:48:27 GMT -5
While the Negro Leagues did have some great individual stars I don't believe the overall level of play was the same as MLB. Still, this is a nice move. What I would really like to have seen was 30 or 40 years ago adding the Negro League Players to the MLB pension plan-while there were many still around to benefit from it.
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Post by alum on Dec 18, 2020 12:28:44 GMT -5
My initial reaction to this news was that Josh Gibson would be home run king as I understood that he hit more than 800 round trippers. I learned today that Negro League teams played as many exhibition games as league games and that the stats revisions only apply to league games. Gibson won’t get the title. This is interesting stuff. I think I’ll find a book on this topic and try to learn a little more. Alum, I liked the book Shades of Glory by Lawrence D. Hogan. Thanks, Dave. It looks good. I ordered it on Amazon. |
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Dec 22, 2020 19:10:52 GMT -5
Does the all-everything baseball stat book "TOTAL BASEBALL" still exist? The last edition I had was from 2001 and included every stat of every player who played "Major League" baseball from 1871 through 2000. Pages were razor thin, font you almost needed a magnifying glass. The pages just got thinner and for good reason.
Prior to the inclusion of 7 various "Negro Leagues", the most recent "Major League" beside the AL and NL was the Federal League which played a couple of seasons about the time of WWI.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Dec 22, 2020 22:48:44 GMT -5
Does the all-everything baseball stat book "TOTAL BASEBALL" still exist? The last edition I had was from 2001 and included every stat of every player who played "Major League" baseball from 1871 through 2000. Pages were razor thin, font you almost needed a magnifying glass. The pages just got thinner and for good reason. Prior to the inclusion of 7 various "Negro Leagues", the most recent "Major League" beside the AL and NL was the Federal League which played a couple of seasons about the time of WWI. My brother and I bought the "Baseball Encyclopedia" decades ago-- as far as I know, it was the first compendium of all MLB players--every standard stat you could want. We wore the book out for many, many years. Now, however, there is no need for such tomes because "Baseball-Reference" has every stat you can imagine and many more that you could never have envisioned. I'm sure if you searched closely enough you could find stats for left-handed hitting shortstops facing right-handed relievers over the age of 30 in road games in extra innings in August night games. |
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