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Post by longsuffering on Dec 29, 2020 14:14:49 GMT -5
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Post by hcpride on Dec 29, 2020 15:06:55 GMT -5
From the article: With the exception of large public schools and the country’s most elite private colleges, many colleges are seeing a decrease in applications.
I suspect a reduced number of applicants RD and ED at HC this cycle.
We've already sent out the ED I letters. If we can land 400 qualified students out of ED (I and II) as we have the last couple of years, the decreased applications for RD may be more of a statistical distinction than an impactful difference.
FWIW Last year (Class of 2024) our applicants were down (slightly) and our acceptance rate was up (from 34%-38%) and our yield was down (34% to 27%).
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 29, 2020 18:33:30 GMT -5
Clark has been actively recruiting internationally for years. I imagine HC is doing something but you don't hear about it much.
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Post by hcpride on Dec 30, 2020 7:18:44 GMT -5
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Post by bpob55 on Jan 22, 2021 12:14:24 GMT -5
Colgate just announced that they received 17,392 applications this year. That's a 102.6% increase year over year. Pretty remarkable.
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Post by hcpride on Jan 22, 2021 12:36:19 GMT -5
/\ That is remarkable. I’m guessing Colgate’s significant applicant overlap schools (BC, Brown, Dartmouth, Cornell) will also see an increase (but over 100% is almost beyond belief). Tufts announced 1 week ago they were 35% over the previous year.
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Post by newfieguy74 on Jan 22, 2021 12:48:11 GMT -5
Colgate just announced that they received 17,392 applications this year. That's a 102.6% increase year over year. Pretty remarkable. Someone is going to have to explain this one to me. That's not a knock on Colgate, which I have a lot of respect for. But 17,392, really?
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Post by purplehaze on Jan 22, 2021 13:13:28 GMT -5
Has their basketball success contributed to this ? - although only marginally, I'd think My other thought is that the SAT was not required for this admissions cycle and therefore many students who otherwise would not have a chance with average scores, decided to apply
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jan 22, 2021 13:39:37 GMT -5
Did some typical target students take a year off or go to prep grad school because of the pandemic?
Did Colgate drop its application fee?
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Post by alum on Jan 22, 2021 13:54:50 GMT -5
Colgate just announced that they received 17,392 applications this year. That's a 102.6% increase year over year. Pretty remarkable. From the announcement on the Colgate website Ross said a number of factors have led to the increase, including changing how Colgate seeks out prospective students early in the college search process, moving to a pilot test-optional policy, introducing a No-Loan Initiative for families with an income of $125,000 or less, broad national media coverage of how the University has handled a return to in-person learning during the pandemic, and a new partnership with QuestBridge.
This is an amazing result, especially since, as hcpride posted a few weeks ago, they only had a 6.8% increase in ED1 applications. I know that many here have criticized HC for going test optional in the past. If I am not mistaken, many schools have gone test optional for this year due to the pandemic. I imagine that many will keep it that way. I like the "no loan for family income under $125,000." I look forward to seeing how HC does. As we know, they tend to be slow to release this information, even when it shows improvement so I am not holding my breath that we will know soon.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jan 22, 2021 15:59:54 GMT -5
"no loan for family income under $125,000" does not mean free for those families, right? It just means that the financial aid is all grants, I think?
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Post by alum on Jan 22, 2021 16:15:08 GMT -5
"no loan for family income under $125,000" does not mean free for those families, right? It just means that the financial aid is all grants, I think? Yes, I think you subtract the estimated family contribution from the cost of attendance and get the rest in grants and work study. Normally, a $5000? loan goes into the package before the college's grants. I would think that unless they have subsantial savings, a family with an income of $125,000 is likely to get a need based financial aid package that covers a large portion (maybe all) of the costs of attendance. It looks, upon quick research, that colleges expect that parents will use 5.6% of their savings each year for college. So, if a parent has $300,000 (outside of retirement accounts) they would be expected to use about $$16,000. For assets in the kid's name, 20% is to be used each year.
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Post by hcpride on Jan 22, 2021 16:27:08 GMT -5
Unfortunately, the reasons cited by Dean Ross for the ridiculous (102.6%) increase in applications to Colgate don't apply to HC: Ross said a number of factors have led to the increase, including changing how Colgate seeks out prospective students early in the college search process (unknown), moving to a pilot test-optional policy (ours has been in place for many years), introducing a No-Loan Initiative for families with an income of $125,000 or less (not at HC) , broad national media coverage of how the University has handled a return to in-person learning during the pandemic (NOT at HC) , and a new partnership with QuestBridge (no, btw very smart with very low income). He also notes an increase in students in the Southeast, and those hailing from countries outside of the United States (we have discussed this in the past and HC outreach has been an issue)I wouldn't underestimate the boatloads of positive and national press they received for successfully opening first semester this year. (One of the many factors Dean Ross notes, above.)
www.colgate.edu/news/stories/colgate-receives-record-number-applications-admission
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jan 22, 2021 17:06:52 GMT -5
Harvard received more than 57,000 applications. So many that the decision date has been pushed back by at least a week.
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Post by hcgrad94 on Jan 22, 2021 17:58:29 GMT -5
"no loan for family income under $125,000" does not mean free for those families, right? It just means that the financial aid is all grants, I think? Yes, I think you subtract the estimated family contribution from the cost of attendance and get the rest in grants and work study. Normally, a $5000? loan goes into the package before the college's grants. I would think that unless they have subsantial savings, a family with an income of $125,000 is likely to get a need based financial aid package that covers a large portion (maybe all) of the costs of attendance. It looks, upon quick research, that colleges expect that parents will use 5.6% of their savings each year for college. So, if a parent has $300,000 (outside of retirement accounts) they would be expected to use about $$16,000. For assets in the kid's name, 20% is to be used each year. And doesn’t mean the family won’t have to take out private loans to subsidize the grants from Colgate.
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Post by hcpride on Jan 22, 2021 18:00:33 GMT -5
Harvard received more than 57,000 applications. So many that the decision date has been pushed back by at least a week. “The College received roughly 42 percent more applications than last year, when 40,248 students applied for admission to the Class of 2024. This year’s record-high number of applicants comes two years after the Class of 2023 set the previous record with 43,330 applicants.”
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Jan 23, 2021 12:07:29 GMT -5
Has their basketball success contributed to this ? - although only marginally, I'd think My other thought is that the SAT was not required for this admissions cycle and therefore many students who otherwise would not have a chance with average scores, decided to apply I'm guessing zero people applied to Colgate this year specifically because of it's prominence as an elite basketball school. My guess is that Colgate's loss to BU on CBS Sports didn't gin up too much incremental interest from applicants. Colgate is a terrific academic institution and a school we should be happy to be affiliated with.
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