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Army
Jan 5, 2021 17:49:17 GMT -5
Post by rgs318 on Jan 5, 2021 17:49:17 GMT -5
The cadets are now 5-2. They split with Colgate in Hamilton (losing on Sat by 44, then winning by 2 on Sunday). Their other wins were over Merchant Marine, CCSU, Buffalo, and LaSalle. Their other loss was to Florida (76-69). They are playing good ball with only one stinker (the 1st game vs Colgate).
PROBABLE STARTERS (stats its, reb, min per game) 13 Lonnie Grayson..G (SR, 6'0" 180) 13 pt / 5 reb / 28 min. 00 Josh Caldwell.....G (JR, 6'2" 185) 10 pt / 6 reb / 26 min. [and 16 steals on the season] 35 Alex King............F (SR, 6'8" 200) 9 pt / 4 reb /. 25 min. 01 Jalen Rucker......G (FR, 5'10" 180) 9 pt / 2 reb / 22 min. [and 31 assists on the season] 34 Charlie Peterson.F (FR, 6'9" 223) 5 pt / 3 reb / 17 min. . TOP SUBS: 24 Jared Cross........G (FR, 6'3" 196) 4 pt / 2 reb / 15 min. 23 Aaron Duhart......G (JR, 6'0" 190) 5 pt / 1 reb / 14 min. 22 Kwabena Davis..G (FR, 6'3" 182) 6 pt / 2 reb / 10 min.
FOR COMPARISON:
HC PROBABLE STARTERS: 04 Austin Butler............G (SR, 6'5" 212) 21 pt / 8 reb / 35 min. 10 Gerrale Gates..........F (FR, 6'6" 230) 19 pt / 8reb / 32 min. 15 Matt Faw..................F (SR, 6'9" 223) 13 pt / 6 reb / 25 min. 33 Judson Martindale..G/F (FR, 6'6" 205) 8 pt / 2 reb / 21 min 01 R.J. Johnson...........G (FR, 6'1" 175) 2 pt / 3 reb / 31 min.
SUBS: 00 Ryan Wade.............G (Soph, 6'2" 170) 4 pt / 3 reb / 23 min. 02 Bo Montgomery.......G (FR, 6'5" 180) 4 pt / 2 reb / 16 min. 03 D'jion Humphrey......G (FR, 6'4" 175) 2 pt / 1 reb / 10 min. 12 Malcolm Townsel.....G (JR, 6'5" 205) 0 pt / 1 reb / 8 min. 32 Michael Rabinovich..F (FR 6'10" 220) 0 pt / 0 reb / 3 min.
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Army
Jan 5, 2021 20:45:26 GMT -5
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Post by DiMarz on Jan 5, 2021 20:45:26 GMT -5
At home on Saturday, should be a plus!
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Army
Jan 5, 2021 20:49:12 GMT -5
Post by thecrossisback on Jan 5, 2021 20:49:12 GMT -5
At home on Saturday, should be a plus! Only if ESPN plus works.
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Army
Jan 5, 2021 20:56:49 GMT -5
Post by rgs318 on Jan 5, 2021 20:56:49 GMT -5
Tip off is 3:00pm. I hope they get their act together by then.
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Army
Jan 5, 2021 22:11:02 GMT -5
Post by hchoops on Jan 5, 2021 22:11:02 GMT -5
Pomeroy has Army at #212. With 7 games played they are closer to the rest of the country than all PL teams except Navy. We are at #342, mostly because of our low, low, low pre season ranking.
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Army
Jan 5, 2021 22:15:54 GMT -5
Post by rgs318 on Jan 5, 2021 22:15:54 GMT -5
A win in our next two games could certainly help that rank.
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Army
Jan 6, 2021 10:55:46 GMT -5
Post by DiMarz on Jan 6, 2021 10:55:46 GMT -5
Pomeroy has Army at #212. With 7 games played they are closer to the rest of the country than all PL teams except Navy. We are at #342, mostly because of our low, low, low pre season ranking. Does the amount of time with a lead in loss have anything to do with how Pomeroy calculates their standings? I have no clue how it works, and these days there are so many metrics to look at it is incredible...The box scores now have so much info in them, one can spin it so many different ways....However as Bill Parcells says, "You are what your record is."
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jan 6, 2021 11:16:34 GMT -5
I believe Pomeroy simply calculates how efficient a team is in creating offense (converting possessions to scoring points) and in defense (stopping opponents from converting possessions to points) . Possessions is the key that enables him to compare teams that play at a slow pace to those who play at a fast pace. For example-- Team X plays at a fast pace and averages 90 points per game with 85 possessions. You hold that team to 85 points because you slowed down the game and there were only 75 possessions. That does not mean that you had a good defensive game by KenPom's methodology (as far as I understand it) because it actually scored more points per possession than it normally does.
Then I believe Pomeroy calculates the difference between offensive efficiency and defensive efficiency to get an "adjusted efficiency margin" and that creates the ranking.
The final score and number of possessions are key, whether you led the game for 30 minutes or just at the last second
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Army
Jan 6, 2021 12:22:08 GMT -5
Post by hchoops on Jan 6, 2021 12:22:08 GMT -5
Agree And his starting point is his baseline which remains a determinant stat even after 7-10 games. See Kentucky which was still #50 even when 1-6.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Jan 6, 2021 12:39:14 GMT -5
. The final score and number of possessions are key, whether you led the game for 30 minutes or just at the last second That's the only available metric in the NadPom database. Maybe why I don't have any subscribers.
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Army
Jan 6, 2021 15:45:47 GMT -5
Post by rgs318 on Jan 6, 2021 15:45:47 GMT -5
Massey has Army as a 3 point favorite on Saturday (72-69) and gives them a 62% chance for the win..
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Post by HC92 on Jan 6, 2021 15:48:51 GMT -5
. The final score and number of possessions are key, whether you led the game for 30 minutes or just at the last second That's the only available metric in the NadPom database. Maybe why I don't have any subscribers. I think it was the $5 annual membership fee. Seemed a little steep.
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Army
Jan 6, 2021 16:06:51 GMT -5
Post by rgs318 on Jan 6, 2021 16:06:51 GMT -5
Team comparison:
Points / game HC = 72 Army = 73
FG% (3 pt %) HC = 46% (36%) Army = 46% (35%)
FT% HC = 47% Army = 57%
Assists/game HC = 11 Army = 18
Rebounds/game HC = 34 Army = 37
Turnovers/game HC = 11 Army = 13
Blocks/game HC = 5 Army = 2
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Army
Jan 6, 2021 16:25:47 GMT -5
Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jan 6, 2021 16:25:47 GMT -5
Army is a bad free throw shooting team but has been for some years. Holy Cross will surely improve --first two games real anomalies.
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Army
Jan 6, 2021 17:28:21 GMT -5
Post by rgs318 on Jan 6, 2021 17:28:21 GMT -5
I hope you're right about that. HC had three layups called off because of foul calls going in (no "continuation" awarded). The way we were shooting fouls, the refs seemed to help BU with those calls.
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Army
Jan 6, 2021 19:31:06 GMT -5
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Post by HC92 on Jan 6, 2021 19:31:06 GMT -5
I don’t say this lightly but my 5th grade team last year shot better than 47% from the line.
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Post by cmo on Jan 6, 2021 19:55:25 GMT -5
Impressive.
My team didn’t shoot that well from the layup line.
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Post by HC92 on Jan 6, 2021 20:05:41 GMT -5
Impressive. My team didn’t shoot that well from the layup line. Interesting. Maybe we could arrange a home-and-home.
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Army
Jan 6, 2021 20:37:08 GMT -5
Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jan 6, 2021 20:37:08 GMT -5
Re: Free Throw shooting-- HC shot .670 last season. The players who left the team shot .661 and the returnees (AB, MF, RW, JR) shot .688. Gerrale Gates, who is likely to take many more free throws than any other player on the team this season, has a .684 percentage for 2 seasons plus 2 games. My guess is that HC as a team will shoot .670 to .700 for the season.
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Post by HC92 on Jan 6, 2021 21:44:14 GMT -5
Don’t look now but we are in a 4-way tie for first in the PL North.
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Post by HC92 on Jan 7, 2021 16:46:36 GMT -5
Just occurred to me that it’s been a while since I was pumped up on a Thursday to watch HC play on a Saturday. Has been fun to watch the guys compete so far. Seems like we shouldn’t have many lopsided losses with this crew. Yes, I am aware that I may have just jinxed us.
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Army
Jan 7, 2021 17:12:04 GMT -5
Post by rgs318 on Jan 7, 2021 17:12:04 GMT -5
I agree there will be far fewer lopsided scores, since I do not see us having the cold spell that seemed to hit the team in all,ost every game last year. It was those bursts of anywhere from 4 to 7 minutes that allowed opponents to pull away. Even if HC closed up, it was too big a gap to overcome.
The bench is a big part of that improvement. There are 4-6 players there who can provide good D (and use their wide arm spreads to add to their quickness). The bench will score more, but I don't se that as big a factor as the BU announcers seem to feel that it is. After all, if bench players outscore starters, isn't that also a sad comment on the starters?
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Army
Jan 8, 2021 13:56:56 GMT -5
Post by hchoops on Jan 8, 2021 13:56:56 GMT -5
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Post by lou on Jan 8, 2021 15:26:14 GMT -5
Butler...PL POW honorable mention. Jaworski POW
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Army
Jan 9, 2021 10:49:09 GMT -5
Post by hchoops on Jan 9, 2021 10:49:09 GMT -5
Pomeroy today Army—215 HC—342 (of 357)
BU—199 obviously until more games are played, the pre season predictions are the biggest factor in these rankings.(except for Army and Navy, 1st in the PL at 178)
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