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Post by HC92 on Jan 13, 2021 19:37:10 GMT -5
I assume we’re in on the ground floor with the 16th best 2023 in PA. Always good to have another Butler on the team.
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Post by HC92 on Jan 13, 2021 19:38:53 GMT -5
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Post by Tom on Jan 14, 2021 10:14:13 GMT -5
No family resemblance there
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jan 14, 2021 10:34:19 GMT -5
Multi-sport star as well?
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 14, 2021 10:37:00 GMT -5
I guess at 6’3” he’s too tall to qualify as a “mini me.”😂
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Post by hc6774 on Jan 14, 2021 11:15:09 GMT -5
it's not yet clear how many scholarships will be available in '23; the current roster lists 3 juniors, all with an extra covid year of eligibility scholarship with an
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Post by Tom on Jan 14, 2021 11:57:02 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure people who are 6'5" are allowed to call people who are a mere 6'3" "mini me" Even if young Landon grows to 6'7", there is great latitude given to older brothers in how to label their younger siblings
On a side note this kid has done some growing. The Butlers are really good about trekking up to Hart. I don't remember seeing the kids too much last year (just the parents) , but the whole family attended a lot of games Austin's frosh and soph years. I don't remember any of the little ones being that tall
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Post by Tom on Jan 14, 2021 12:19:48 GMT -5
it's not yet clear how many scholarships will be available in '23; the current roster lists 3 juniors, all with an extra covid year of eligibility scholarship with an The whole concept of extra covid eligibility makes the whole number of available scholarships a question mark. By my count next year HC has the full compliment of 13 scholarships - and that is with Faw and Butler gone. I suppose it will get easier as time goes on and players can give advanced notice of their desire to use the extra year. Of the 3 juniors, Hart is not on scholarship and does not figure into this math. I touched on this in another thread, but up until about a month ago, the plan was for Gates to play in 2021-22 and 2022-23. He got a gift of this extra half season from the NCAA, but that doesn't affect his academic track. I think he's here for two seasons after this one The only real question mark to me is Townsel who, in my uninformed opinion, could have lost credits in his transfer and might still be around after May '22 even if he is not playing basketball. I think we're looking at probably one but maybe zero scholarships for the class of '26 Disclaimer: a year ago my scholarship math didn't take into account a variable that turned the math upside down
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jan 14, 2021 12:30:10 GMT -5
I don't see how the NCAA can allow every player an extra year without expanding the maximum number of scholarships allowed. To do so, as I analyze it, would punish the next year of student-athletes who would be competing for a greatly reduced number of scholarships
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 14, 2021 12:43:13 GMT -5
I agree with that insight, KY. However, might it be open to potential abuse? Not by HC but we know there are others out there who will try. If something like that did happen, how would the larger number of scholarship athletes get playing time? Or would that even be an issue? Imagine that our walk-on players might be removed from the roster, at last for a year. This is one of those issues where I am glad my opinion has no meaning and I can take a pass and let those most involved make the necessary decisions.
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Post by Tom on Jan 14, 2021 13:06:56 GMT -5
I don't see how the NCAA can allow every player an extra year without expanding the maximum number of scholarships allowed. To do so, as I analyze it, would punish the next year of student-athletes who would be competing for a greatly reduced number of scholarships I agree with your logic. If Faw and Butler were to stay at HC, HC would have to pull 2 of the accepted scholarships for next year. It could go on for a bit. Thinking just of HC for a moment with 6 freshmen, the high school class of '24 would get squeezed but the class of '25 would get a boon. I disagree with your underlying premise that the NCAA would take action motivated by fairness to a high school student athlete
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Post by trimster on Jan 14, 2021 13:11:11 GMT -5
I believe the NCAA is going to allow schools to exceed the maximum limit of scholarships allowed at any one time. It will be up to the schools to decide if they want to fund the extra scholarships.
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Post by trimster on Jan 14, 2021 13:13:49 GMT -5
I don't see how the NCAA can allow every player an extra year without expanding the maximum number of scholarships allowed. To do so, as I analyze it, would punish the next year of student-athletes who would be competing for a greatly reduced number of scholarships I agree with your logic. If Faw and Butler were to stay at HC, HC would have to pull 2 of the accepted scholarships for next year. It could go on for a bit. Thinking just of HC for a moment with 6 freshmen, the high school class of '24 would get squeezed but the class of '25 would get a boon. I disagree with your underlying premise that the NCAA would take action motivated by fairness to a high school student athlete Eligibility wise, as of right now, HC will have 9 freshmen on the roster next year.
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Post by hchoops on Jan 14, 2021 13:30:14 GMT -5
it's not yet clear how many scholarships will be available in '23; the current roster lists 3 juniors, all with an extra covid year of eligibility scholarship with an The whole concept of extra covid eligibility makes the whole number of available scholarships a question mark. By my count next year HC has the full compliment of 13 scholarships - and that is with Faw and Butler gone. I suppose it will get easier as time goes on and players can give advanced notice of their desire to use the extra year. Of the 3 juniors, Hart is not on scholarship and does not figure into this math. I touched on this in another thread, but up until about a month ago, the plan was for Gates to play in 2021-22 and 2022-23. He got a gift of this extra half season from the NCAA, but that doesn't affect his academic track. I think he's here for two seasons after this one The only real question mark to me is Townsel who, in my uninformed opinion, could have lost credits in his transfer and might still be around after May '22 even if he is not playing basketball. I think we're looking at probably one but maybe zero scholarships for the class of '26 Disclaimer: a year ago my scholarship math didn't take into account a variable that turned the math upside down Agree with your Gates info. Disagree with the Townsell analysis. He was originally given a scholarship for two years. Thus assuming it would take him two more years to graduate, no more. If there was more time needed to graduate, the scholarship would have had to be for longer, which I very much doubt.
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Post by hc6774 on Jan 14, 2021 14:13:57 GMT -5
it's not yet clear how many scholarships will be available in '23; the current roster lists 3 juniors, all with an extra covid year of eligibility scholarship with an The whole concept of extra covid eligibility makes the whole number of available scholarships a question mark. By my count next year HC has the full compliment of 13 scholarships - and that is with Faw and Butler gone. I suppose it will get easier as time goes on and players can give advanced notice of their desire to use the extra year. Of the 3 juniors, Hart is not on scholarship and does not figure into this math. I touched on this in another thread, but up until about a month ago, the plan was for Gates to play in 2021-22 and 2022-23. He got a gift of this extra half season from the NCAA, but that doesn't affect his academic track. I think he's here for two seasons after this one The only real question mark to me is Townsel who, in my uninformed opinion, could have lost credits in his transfer and might still be around after May '22 even if he is not playing basketball. I think we're looking at probably one but maybe zero scholarships for the class of '26 Disclaimer: a year ago my scholarship math didn't take into account a variable that turned the math upside down After signing day believe coach said he still has 1 scholarship available... with the caveat that transfers have been known to occur, I agree with your second para
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Post by Tom on Jan 14, 2021 15:21:43 GMT -5
The whole concept of extra covid eligibility makes the whole number of available scholarships a question mark. By my count next year HC has the full compliment of 13 scholarships - and that is with Faw and Butler gone. I suppose it will get easier as time goes on and players can give advanced notice of their desire to use the extra year. Of the 3 juniors, Hart is not on scholarship and does not figure into this math. I touched on this in another thread, but up until about a month ago, the plan was for Gates to play in 2021-22 and 2022-23. He got a gift of this extra half season from the NCAA, but that doesn't affect his academic track. I think he's here for two seasons after this one The only real question mark to me is Townsel who, in my uninformed opinion, could have lost credits in his transfer and might still be around after May '22 even if he is not playing basketball. I think we're looking at probably one but maybe zero scholarships for the class of '26 Disclaimer: a year ago my scholarship math didn't take into account a variable that turned the math upside down Agree with your Gates info. Disagree with the Townsell analysis. He was originally given a scholarship for two years. Thus assuming it would take him two more years to graduate, no more. If there was more time needed to graduate, the scholarship would have had to be for longer, which I very much doubt. Townsel is a unique case to us. I look at the Gates situation and I harken back to Jim McCaffery and Josh Sankes who attended HC for 3 years and played the last 2 after sitting out the required one year. As a JuCo transfer, Townsel does not have to sit for that year. I don't know much about State Fair Community, but I think it very likely that not 100 percent of the credits made it here, Also, you need something like 10 classes in your major and I think there is a cap on how many can come from another school. I can't think of another transfer in who didn't have to sit a year so this is unchartered territory for the academic progress of a transfer. Maybe he's taking an overload or summer classes. Maybe he had a bunch of AP and will only be taking classes in his major. It is possible that he in on track to graduate in May of 2022. I just think that it will require something a little extraordinary to make it happen. Just because Townsel was given a two year scholarship to cover his full eligibility, doesn't mean that he walked in the door 50 percent of the way to his degree
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Post by hc6774 on Jan 14, 2021 16:53:31 GMT -5
Agree with your Gates info. Disagree with the Townsell analysis. He was originally given a scholarship for two years. Thus assuming it would take him two more years to graduate, no more. If there was more time needed to graduate, the scholarship would have had to be for longer, which I very much doubt. Townsel is a unique case to us. I look at the Gates situation and I harken back to Jim McCaffery and Josh Sankes who attended HC for 3 years and played the last 2 after sitting out the required one year. As a JuCo transfer, Townsel does not have to sit for that year. I don't know much about State Fair Community, but I think it very likely that not 100 percent of the credits made it here, Also, you need something like 10 classes in your major and I think there is a cap on how many can come from another school. I can't think of another transfer in who didn't have to sit a year so this is unchartered territory for the academic progress of a transfer. Maybe he's taking an overload or summer classes. Maybe he had a bunch of AP and will only be taking classes in his major. It is possible that he in on track to graduate in May of 2022. I just think that it will require something a little extraordinary to make it happen. Just because Townsel was given a two year scholarship to cover his full eligibility, doesn't mean that he walked in the door 50 percent of the way to his degree I am aware of an JuCo grad transfer, who got an HC BA in 2 years... not an athlete, but from a family of several HC alums... don't know the academic load at HC
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Post by hchoops on Jan 14, 2021 16:58:55 GMT -5
Tom, If Malcolm did not come in with enough credits, your mention of overload or summer school seems like the likely solution to graduate in 2023. Seems logical.
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Post by trimster on Jul 27, 2021 8:34:16 GMT -5
HC has expressed interest in ‘23 6’8” big Patrick O’Brien of Warrenton, VA.
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Post by trimster on Jul 27, 2021 8:40:04 GMT -5
HC has expressed interest in ‘23 6’8” big Patrick O’Brien of Warrenton, VA. OB has a 3.9 GPA so it appears he has the academic side in order.
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Post by efg72 on Jul 27, 2021 8:44:48 GMT -5
From the same neighborhood as Walter Coates--
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Post by hchoops on Jul 27, 2021 14:18:29 GMT -5
From COBL
DC Premier 2023 big man Patrick O’Brien put a handful of quality tools on display this weekend in Indiana, flashing signs of an impressive offensive game in the post. O’Brien has light touch around the rim and can put the ball on the floor well given his size. The 6-foot-8 forward has an offer from Radford, with a small handful of other Division I programs expressing interest, including La Salle, George Washington and Yale. O’Brien said he’s shared a handful of texts and calls with the staff at La Salle
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Post by trimster on Sept 16, 2021 7:22:35 GMT -5
HC is interested in a 6’1” guard from Reading, PA named Reuben Rodriguez. He averaged 10 ppg as a frosh and 15 as a sophomore on a State Championship team. Looks like St. Peter’s has offered and Colgate and W&M are interested.
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Post by timholycross on Sept 16, 2021 10:36:04 GMT -5
HC is interested in a 6’1” guard from Reading, PA named Reuben Rodriguez. He averaged 10 ppg as a frosh and 15 as a sophomore on a State Championship team. Looks like St. Peter’s has offered and Colgate and W&M are interested. One of my all time favorite album covers. The guy on the back is Zappa himself, his hs yearbook photo. Attachments:
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Post by breezy on Jan 2, 2022 9:18:14 GMT -5
New offer:
Verbal Commits shows him to be a 2* 6-6, 195 SF.
It also shows that he has an offer from Siena (May 2021) and interest from Princeton, Colorado and Cornell.
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